User talk:Zinc5000

Speedy delete
The article Intellitar has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group or service and which would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. NawlinWiki (talk) 17:59, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

File source problem with File:BenFranklinPic Intellitar.jpg
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File source problem with File:Intellitar Wikipedia Pic.jpg
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Proposed deletion of Intellitar


The article Intellitar has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Unremarkable product. Terrible sourcing, reads like an advert.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing  will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Bonewah (talk) 19:06, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Intellitar Page

 * From user talk:ikip

Hello,

I see there has been further discussion for the speedy deletion of the page for Intellitar. Compared to the first version of the page, what's on it now is far and away a much better page. The first one literally had 3 paragraphs and one reference, while this one has the appropriate layout for what it is with 6 references. Also, after I've completed and sent this message I'm adding a seventh reference, which lists a magazine article featuring a cover story on what an Intellitar is. If this page still requires further improvements afterward please let me know.

Zinc5000 (talk) 17:07, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * First of all go to My preferences >> E-mail options and enable e-mail, then email me, so we can discuss this off-wiki.
 * With any term, if you type: you can find sources for an article:
 * I can find any sources using this, and there are only 70+ hits on google.
 * I look at some of your sources, and they could be better.
 * I am going to userfy this article for you, which means I will move it to a user-subpage  User:Zinc5000/Intellitar. There you can continue to work on it, with less threat of deletion. But you need to find better sources (magazines, newspapers, etc.) or it will always be at risk for deletion. Ikip  00:38, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Looking forward to that email. I will explain everything ;-) Ikip 01:54, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * See also: Sister Mary Ignatius Explains It All For You. Jack Merridew 23:29, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * See also: Sister Mary Ignatius Explains It All For You. Jack Merridew 23:29, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

I am emailing you now.

I need to make you aware of WP:3RR, you cannot revert a person 3 times in 24 hours. Actually, like all rules on wikipedia, this rule is applied unequally, so better not to revert more than twice in the space of 3 days. Instead do what these two veteran editors never did, but know better about, discuss it on the talk page.

Jack Merridew is editing Intellitar because he had some disagreement with me in the past (namely I attempted to get him rebanned for hounding), and Jack Merridew has a history of WP:hounding (following the edits of editors) Jack Merridew does not like. He was banned for 8 months for WP:sockpuppetry (creating new accounts) and wp:hounding. You are the second newbie who was helped by someone Jack Merridew has hounded in the past year, who Jack Merridew then began to criticize. His criticism of you has nothing to do with you at all, it has everything to do with WP:baiting me. You are just being used as a tool to get to me. Don't take it personally, as Administrator DGG wrote about Jack Merridew when arbcom was reviewing his probation being lifted:
 * "There have been repeats of similar behavior--many of them. None of them is individually outrageous. He does not bait me or you--he baits those susceptible to it, and is, I must admit, very skilled at this."

I guess I am an editor who is "susceptible" to Jack Merridew's hounding.

On wikipedia there are several rules that editors must follow, which are unequally enforced. Generally, the more friends you have, the less the rules apply to you. Some of these rules include no personal attacks. What editors will do is they will hound (follow) and bait other editors hoping to get the other editors angry. Then they can report them to administrators, who have the power to block them. In a broader context, since bullies tends to support other bullies, cyber-bullying is a big part of Wikipedia culture.

Jack Merridew's has publicly supported meatpuppetry (he gave another editor a reward called a barnstar for their public support of meatpuppetry). "Meatpuppetry" is the recruitment of editors as proxies to sway consensus, in this case, the deletion of references you provided in this article. I would not be surprised if Jack Merridew is emailing editors about this article.

Future perfect is a supporter of Jack Merridew. He threatened to block me if I talked about Jack Merridew's hounding again. Future perfect was criticized for trying to silence me by another admin more powerful than him.

So, it is my fault that Jack Merridew and Future Perfect are now criticizing the article you wrote. It is not by chance that of the 3 million articles these two editors found this article and decided to focus on you.

Eventually either one of these editors will put your article up for deletion again. So it is imperative you find sources. I am sorry you are being used as a pawn in a situation which has nothing to do with you at all.

Again, keep in mind 3RR. Ikip 12:58, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Zinc5000, please excuse what I consider the poisoning of the well post above. I would encourage you to listen to user:Jack Merridew. In order to have images on Wikipedia they must be licensed correctly or they will be deleted and copy violations are a definite no-no here. The only exception is fair use which applies only in article space. Jack has been working on the cleaning up of images (all kinds of images) on Wikipedia for months now and is a good person to ask for advice in this area. - Josette (talk) 21:48, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Zinc, I sometimes notice people mentioning my name as part of an argument, & if this happens, I prefer to speak in my own voice. I am not an expert on images, but I certainly know something so basic as that the images discussed below can not possibly be kept in WP  unless there is an article to put them in, or unless you get permission for them-- which might be possible.  If you can establish an article on the company, it will justify the logo, but the example of their avatar will still be difficult to prove as being necessary. I think they might be convinced that it would be good to give a license for it -- see  our FAQ  about businesses & organizations. That will solve the problem.


 * As for the article, you will be able to have it kept in Wikipedia if, and only if, you can find reviews or clear references providing substantial coverage from  3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases.  Until you have these, it's basically impossible. If you do, and add  text to give a base for the references to what they say, it should be possible. I've sometimes been able to help articles like this, so if you want me to look at a draft, let me know  on my talk page.    DGG ( talk ) 00:14, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Intellitar Wikipedia Pic.jpg
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Possibly unfree File:BenFranklinPic Intellitar.jpg
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Orphaned non-free image File:Intellitar Wikipedia Pic.jpg
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Orphaned non-free image File:BenFranklinPic Intellitar.jpg
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Fair use rationale for File:Intellitar Logo.jpg
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