User talk:Zinnober9

Gnoming in Signpost archives
I thank you greatly for fixing the small tags that had gotten messed up on my AWB run -- I thought I had gone back and caught them all. Are you working off a database report, or some tool that provides a list of all broken tags? If so, I would like to see it as well; I've been making a shitload of edits on back issues today and I am not sure that I have caught all the errors.

By the way, if you are interested in doing a large volume of fairly boring (but necessary) edits, I have a treasure trove of them. jp×g 04:53, 9 January 2023 (UTC)


 * @JPxG If the messed up tags were selfclosing smalls, then they are all repaired and weren't but a few (Selfclosing tags are not infrequent, but are a well maintained error; usually none to very few running across the site, and they don't last long with various editors pouncing on them quickly).
 * I have a few links for you it seems! :)
 * WP:LINT (the project's page)
 * The "lint" errors listed on Wikipedia (max count of each type of error per article page caps out at 21)
 * The main page I use is https://fireflytools.toolforge.org/fireflytools/linter/enwiki which is just the errors listed in the previous link, but broken down by namespace for a condensed, more exact, count of each error type (updates every 15 minutes). This is how I spotted the three Signpost errors you speak of.
 * I also utilize the Page Information of various pages (link under Tools on the left side of the site) in conjunction with these, since many pages have multiple types of errors, and I like to clear a page in preferably one edit. If there are any errors, there will be a "Lint errors" section like this at the bottom with a count of each type. If there are errors, then I use the last link, Lint errors on page, in the External Tools section just below it for the listout of all errors of all types on this specific page, along with some extra info, (obsolete font, missing end tag (b), etc). Most I can find with Ctrl+F while editing a page, but some errors get sneaky, and the link to the error it provides (I'd open it in a new tab) helps me find some the location on page of some things. The listout also serves as safety net/check for me after I've edited a page.
 * I'd be interested in knowing what sort of things you have. While I am content with the focuses of lint I've been cleaning so far, I do enjoy some variation, and need a change of task/scenery/etc every so often. Zinnober9 (talk) 07:58, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

px values are invalid in image galleries
These errors were probably all cleaned up before you started your de-linting work. See the last bullet at mw:Help:Lint_errors/bogus-image-options for invalid options in gallery tags. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:30, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Be careful with manual Linter replacements
The replacements for User:Kaiba in this edit did not work. The opening span tags were missing a quote mark, the closing tags were missing a &gt;, and a font size of 3 pt should probably have been replaced with small, not medium. Are you using scripts or just typing? If the latter, you need to inspect your results very carefully for typos, and make sure to use LintHint before your save. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:17, 8 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I hadn't gotten LintHint to work in attempts past, but I figured it out today and it's working for me now. Will utilize that in my edits as an added safeguard. I had unexpected interruption and I messed up last night. I appreciate you catching those. Zinnober9 (talk) 20:16, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you got it working. It doesn't work for every single error, but it is helpful for catching remaining errors and highlighting typos that I have made before saving. It is also helpful for highlighting the text containing an error, unless that text is wrapped in a template like archive top or similar, in which case you need to depend on the syntax highlighter or Special:ExpandTemplates. Isn't this fun? – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:35, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've gotten so that if something is in a wrapper and isn't something I immediately spot, or is something I suspect there are multiples of (since they tend to only flag the first within the wrapper) I copy that potion of the text minus the wrappers to my sandbox and figure it out in the sandbox. Zinnober9 (talk) 20:58, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Notes about center
Hey! This is just a reminder that, when adding the center template, you need to be careful about how you implement it. Center can only take one argument, being the input text, and any other arguments it receives are essentially lost (not displayed). Some text can have an  in it, such as inside a html tag. This means that when you attempt to do something like, the software attempts to treat this as you saying the arg   has the value. The template doesn't know how to handle that, and so nothing gets displayed. To fix this, you should put  at the start. For a visual example of the effect this has, compare this section before and after  was added.

Generally, the main times this becomes a concern is when the equals is part of a link (E.g. ), html tag (see above), or just regular text. Any equals sign that is inside of a sub-template shouldn't be a problem. If you aren't sure if something needs it, hit Show Preview and look for any preview warning messages where the center templates are or for the Pages using center with no arguments category. Don't worry, I've already cleaned up any cases of this before, so there's no need to go back. This is just a note for the future. Aidan9382 (talk) 08:58, 12 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Yep, thanks. I run across that every now and then, but infrequently enough that it catches me offguard at times. Thanks for the correction, sorry for the error. Zinnober9 (talk) 09:23, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

List of 2023 MNL statistics moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, List of 2023 MNL statistics, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more in-depth coverage about the subject itself, with citations from reliable, independent sources in order to show it meets WP:GNG. It should have at least three, to be safe. And please remember that interviews, as primary sources, do not count towards GNG. Please see WP:NOTSTATS. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Onel 5969  TT me 12:11, 21 March 2023 (UTC)


 * @Onel5969 I have zero personal interest in the page and do not want the draft. I found that 2023 Myanmar National League was overrun by that weekly statistical data, and that for the 2022 season, it had a similar standalone page for the weekly breakdown with similar level of sourcing, so I moved it out to its own page in the hopes that the people interested in the subject would complete the page to satisfaction.
 * If the only thing needed is two more sources, I could attempt to find two sources to meet GNG, but otherwise I have no further interest in the page, and only created it for the page overflow need. The main thing that I do not want to see is this weekly breakdown of data returning to the 2023 Myanmar National League page.
 * Otherwise if the page needs more work than that, I'm happy to release the page to a public draft, or you may give it to User:Vilnae867 since they worked on and updated the page quite a bit. Zinnober9 (talk) 15:38, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Template talk:Did you know/Tapis (Indonesian weaving style)
Your of Template talk:Did you know/Tapis (Indonesian weaving style) may have resulted in a stripped  tag in Template talk:Did you know daily log/2011 August 6. ExpandTemplates with the markup

results in very little output and includes the stripped tag. —Anomalocaris (talk) 19:11, 21 April 2023 (UTC)


 * I was aware of that at the time, but had since forgotten. Thank you. I wasn't sure why it did that (and I feel like it was just as broken appearing before I changed things). At the time, I had looked at other similar pages appearing on that August page for the IF statement format used and applied it to Tapis since it was missing. Since it fixed Tapis, and left August in better condition than when I found it, I moved on thinking to come back later if I had an idea, or if someone else found a solution before I did.
 * Out of curiosity just now, I removed a set of inner noincludes that weren't appearing in other cases, and that has cleared the div error on August, and the entry is appearing on August as others do, so I think this works. While I don't fully know why that fixed it, my guess is that the inner set of noincludes were messing with the noincludes in the IF statements. Hopefully this adjustment hasn't caused something else. It's comforting that it looks like the other entries in both places though. Zinnober9 (talk) 20:06, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Right, I don't think  should nest inside , so removing the inner ones makes sense. Thank you for taking care of this. —Anomalocaris (talk) 22:47, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of List of 2023 MNL statistics for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of 2023 MNL statistics is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/List of 2023 MNL statistics until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:15, 26 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Robert McClenon As I've stated previously, (three sections above here), I have zero interest in this page. I created it out of necessity to move this overwhelmingly long content out of 2023 Myanmar National League, as it swallowed up the page. I saw that 2022 season had a similar setup page, so I moved the 2023 content to a new page. That's it. End of story. Stop messaging me about this page.
 * @Vilnae867 is the major contributor to this page and has the interest. I do not. If there is a way to relinquish whatever "creatorship/ownership" of this page to them, I'm happy to do so.
 * Zinnober9 (talk) 00:47, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * User:Zinnober9 - Yes. We know.  We know.  I get such messages from time to time saying that my drafts are about to be deleted, and I didn't create the drafts, but only renamed them.  I am sure that User:Onel5969 gets similar stupid messages.  The messages are generated automatically by Twinkle, which semi-automates all sorts of notification tasks, and usually gets them right.  If the messages really bother you, you can delete them, or you can move them to the user page of User:Vilnae867.  Twinkle gets the originator right more often than it gets it wrong; you can ridicule them if you want to.  Robert McClenon (talk) 01:01, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Not frustrated with you, just frustrated by this one page and it's progress since. I appreciate your reply, and hope you have a wonderful weekend. Zinnober9 (talk) 01:12, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I spent my time to register this Statistics. Do you think it is easy to register? Who is scored, who is assist? Why so serious? I just tried to find the source. aright you are genius. Vilnae867 (talk) 12:06, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * you deleted all my data ......f Vilnae867 (talk) 12:08, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I deleted nothing. Reread the above. I moved existing content (changing nothing) to a new page, it got new page reviewed and failed to pass due to lack of sources and was nominated by the reviewer for deletion. Discuss with them, as I have no personal interest in this topic, and no interest in the discussion about keeping or removing these stats. Zinnober9 (talk) 23:44, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Cuprum17's talk page.
Well, I certainly don't want any lint errors on my talk page! Thank you for cleaning that up for me, I guess. I really don't see much difference, but then I am not versed on what a lint error is...anyway, have a great rest of your day! Cuprum17 (talk) 01:02, 31 May 2023 (UTC)


 * WP:Lint are minor syntax errors, or use of older code that is not HTML5 compliant, and most of the time correcting these errors won't change anything visually. Correcting lint would be the equivalent to dotting the "i"s and crossing the "t"s. Some visually noticeable errors I can think of off the top of my head are dropped italics/bold tags, or an unclosed text color/font/size that unintentionally changes everything after it.
 * The tidy font error though, which is how I discovered your page, is when links (usually signatures) are written in the link format with the color specified outside of the link. Browsers don't agree on how to display the colors written this way, and some browsers display it with the specified colors, others defaulting back to the standard link blue. This would have been the only possible issue I adjusted on your page that would have been visually possible to see, since the other things I adjusted were updating the outdated to some HTML5 compliant alternatives. Zinnober9 (talk) 08:26, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Apology and a thank you
Hi Zinnober9. I recently saw you corrected a mistake I had made on series of page creations, * ]] *.

I've somehow missed that you were making all these corrections until now. I am currently going through the pages before I move them from draft to article, and checking if I have more of these errors.

However I just wanted to thank you for having corrected the errors, and wish you a nice evening :) Thomediter (talk) 23:19, 8 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I saw one set on Draft:Aakirkeby (Nomination district) (that I just took care of) but otherwise I don't see any other tracked syntax issues in the series, so I think what you've released so far should be all fine syntax-wise. Sorry if I sounded frustrated earlier, I just was surprised at how many there were, and had a few IRL things I was mulling over while editing. Thank you for your kind message, and I hope you have a great weekend! Zinnober9 (talk) 00:22, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Heyo!
Hi there! Nice to make your aquaintance and many thanks for helping me out with the signature. I was thinking I might try lower case letters... lol might as well give it a go!

thanks again friend! : )  ΤΕΡΡΑΣΙΔΙΩΣ (Ταλκ) 12:24, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

List of viceroys of New Spain
Take a look at your lintfix of List of viceroys of New Spain. You didn't account for the rowspan. I was working on the page at the same time, so I overwrote your version. —Anomalocaris (talk) 02:26, 23 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Wikitables are so damn easy to mess up that they get even the best of us... Thanks for catching that. Zinnober9 (talk) 02:31, 23 October 2023 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) When fixing fostered content lint errors, always look at the page history and find out what caused it. Just putting in a cell pipe or a table close might be the answer, but it might not. Gotta find out what went wrong first. Same is true for table tags to be deleted. —Anomalocaris (talk) 02:35, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Binibining Pilipinas 2023
Hello, Zinnober9,

Please do not tag expiring drafts early. We go by the time and date of the last human edit to the page and we're pretty strict about it because we have several admins and editors dealing with expiring drafts and we need to have some system to coordinate our efforts. We actually have a list we work with, User:SDZeroBot/G13 soon that is generated by a bot so nothing falls through the cracks. Thanks though for your help. Liz Read! Talk! 04:51, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

About your edit to Swan Thong
Hey Zinnober9, I'm the AfC reviewer who tagged that page under CSD G6. I've accepted the draft due to the significant improvements that were made after the declines. With that in mind, I'd ask you to self-revert your removal of the tag so I can make the page move. Thanks! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 02:17, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Sorry, misread the situation. I thought on initial glance that you were the draft's main author and thought it was just a new editor being a bit premature trying to delete the current redirect when draft was still in incubation. I see now that you are a well respected reviewer, and didn't realize this was a normal step in this process (had thought it was a one click multi process thing).
 * I've reverted myself, sorry about that. My main focus of the page had been the weird Multiline HTML table in list syntax error that was somehow created by having those two templates following after each other. Since the page will be replaced soon, I can live with that error existing for a little while. Zinnober9 (talk) 02:37, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Zinnober9!


Happy New Year! Zinnober9, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

Abishe (talk) 13:59, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Abishe (talk) 13:59, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the LINT problem
I appreciate it and hope to figure out how to avoid it in the future.

HansWobbe
 * You are welcome. The table errors you had were fostered content issues due to the missing closers   and the few missing | . All opening tags in a  and doing so deactivates/breaks the wikitable markup, or pipe syntax. Tables should be treated, regardless of number of lines, as one unit, not to be altered or interrupted between the opening and closing brackets, unless it's a new cell or row led with a pipe   . Tables very rarely are indented, since most tables are wider than yours and typically are the width of the page, but on the rare occurrence you do want to, this is one of two ways I can think of to how you'd do it.
 * As for the fostered content error I made reference to, an example is explained and displayed here.
 * Best wishes, Zinnober9 (talk) 02:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks sir for the lucid explanation. I have made a note of it. Thanks again.
 * MyNameIsAnthonyGonsalves (talk) 09:55, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for edit of Lyme rash photo
Thank you very much for the following edit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lyme_disease&diff=prev&oldid=1211344028

In particular, you removed “|thumb|upright=1.35” from the pair of photos. That made all the difference, and the pair is now in the article itself. FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 16:51, 4 March 2024 (UTC)


 * You are very welcome. Yeah, Gallery (template or tags) isn't too fond of the individual sizing parameters typically found in Indivdual file syntax, and is something that is a regular trip hazzard. Happy to assist. Cheers, Zinnober9 (talk) 02:58, 5 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that tidbit, too! I'll see you around the jungle. FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 18:58, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Regarding Deletion of Vishuddhanda Paramahamsa Page
Hello Sir, We added few reliable sources link to this page to resolve citation issues. I request you to not delete it. Please kindly consider our request. Akhila257 (talk) 08:08, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Sir could you please let us know which is copyright violation so we try to remove it? Akhila257 (talk) 14:59, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Please let us know which line is copyright violation? Akhila257 (talk) 15:00, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I haven't added anything from myDattatreya.com and Amritananda blogpost. Akhila257 (talk) 15:02, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Excuse me, sir
You made an edit to my user page without messaging me first and getting consent. Please explain why you think that was ok for you to do. Chrisbrl88 (talk) 04:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello, @Chrisbrl88!
 * Hope you are doing well. The page WP:Lint gives me permission (with clear boundaries) to make corrections of specific tracked syntax errors on all pages of Wikipedia, and without needing prior permission for pages in userspace. The general summary of these rules are that I can't change the words of other editors (ie the displayed content) or change the page's layout/display (barring the exception that an error is breaking the page's visual layout).
 * Your page had a fostered content table error (missing a | for "housing" the cell content), and I swapped out the tag for |} since it mismatched with the first table opening statement style.
 * I hope you have a wonderful Easter, Zinnober9 (talk) 00:37, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * While I DO appreciate the diligent work you do on database cleanup, common courtesy kinda warrants a, "Hey - there's X issue on your user page and I'm gonna take Y action to correct it; just a heads up that you're gonna get an email," message.
 * It kinda felt like someone moving my couch without asking if I was OK with it. That's all. I hope I didn't come across the wrong way!
 * And I hope you have a wonderful Easter, as well! Christmas and Easter are the only times my mom makes deviled eggs and her unique macaroni salad. It's a comfort for me 🤣
 * Chrisbrl88 (talk) 06:53, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi, thanks and wow!
G'day! (I'm an Aussie, can you tell?)

Thanks for cleaning up some fostered lint on my user page! I've had some weird display probs there for ages, but have been too busy to track them down, so I appreciate your help.

You have an elegantly clean set of userboxen. I just might emulate your style ... if I ever find the time to clean up my user page! ;) yoyo (talk) 08:13, 31 March 2024 (UTC)


 * You're welcome! Table errors are pretty frequent an error, real easy to drop a tag.
 * Thanks! Feel free to copy the layout style. I wanted flexibility with the collapsing and the section headers, and the wikitable style wasn't giving me what I wanted. Zinnober9 (talk) 13:14, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Need to undo
Hello! You recently adjusted my user page explaining that there were "lint errors" (which I am completely unfamiliar with). Perhaps there were, but I must undo your edit, as it threw off everything to where the side bar overlaps with everything else, obscuring it. My guess is that my retaintion of the former default desktop layout conflicts with the changes you made. I found the new default to be absolutely horrible, not in the least since it seemed to happen overnight, without sufficient warnings to all users who might protest it. I wouldn't have minded, but man, it was needlessly confusing, and also just looked really bad! But, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and, after much searching I was able to change it back for my own use without this affecting anyone else.

So, just so you're aware, whatever the lint error changes you made were, they apparently don't have a universally uniform effect on all pages. Mine ended up appearing like one of those pages we sometimes happen upon that haven't been updated since 1999, with everything scrambled over everything else. I know no harm was meant, so please accept that, though it's somewhat irritating, I have no personal issue with you. Please let me know if there's a way to fix lint errors without it scrambling the page. But also know I am no longer up-to-date with all the current jargon as I was in, say, 2012, and will likely be easily confused. I still edit, but no where near at the rate I used to (I might've been making 100-300 edits per day at one point; now it's just a few times a month).

Peace. Hamamelis (talk) 01:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * , I worked on this broken user page for a while and abandoned my edits. I don't know if there is a way to preserve the rather unusual layout while fixing the Linter errors. I'm going to take another look. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:09, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Jonesey95,
 * Both of the sandbox edits that I came up with this evening (presented in my reply below) preserve it fairly well, (the main difference being the tables with broken syntax being the blue boarders, that appear when corrected), but otherwise keeps the same visual placement/layout of the rest of Hamamelis' content intact. Certainly not one of the more clear cut Wikitable errors I've fixed recently, but certainly one that has a potential for a satisfying, syntax-free solution for both parties. Zinnober9 (talk) 04:28, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your efforts! Hopefully all will be well now. (Explained in my response to Zinnobef9, below.)
 * Peace. Hamamelis (talk) 04:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Hamamelis No worries, thank you for the kind message. Some corrections aren't as straight forward and take some assumptions, as the way the code is written indicates one way, but displays in another way due to the issues present. I leaned more towards how the Wikitable code presented on yours and missed that the Inline cleanup tags table expanded so big.
 * Would something like this or (alternately this) satisfy you? Both of these have all the syntax errors corrected and look pretty similar to your current layout. If either does, edit that version's source code, copy in full, and paste into yours to keep it (or I can copy and paste it to yours). Zinnober9 (talk) 04:16, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I have fixed some of the syntax errors on your page, leaving at least two bits of invalid table formatting. One way you can tell that the table formatting is invalid is the two horizontal blue lines to the right of the loon image. Another way is that the userboxes do not form a normal vertical stack. Maybe you could experiment with the formatting to get things to look the way you want them while also providing valid table formatting. The main problem is that you have tables that do not use a pipe (|) character to introduce cells; they just go from the table opening to content. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! The alternative version you showed has the identical overlapping problem I wrote to you about originally. However, the first example appears to be perfect! I know from interractions even a long while back that knowing how something looks on one person's screen doesn't tell much about how it looks on other people's.
 * I think I can do the cut and paste of it as you've described. Thanks again, for your caring and understanding, as well as your efforts. If I may, I'll let you know if I have any questions or difficulties.
 * Peace. Hamamelis (talk) 04:53, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi once more! Just checked and wanted to report that your last edit to my user page corrected everything just fine. No need for me to cut and past. So... success!
 * Thanks!
 * Peace. Hamamelis (talk) 05:02, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * That was Jonesey95's edit, and they didn't address the two table errors. Since you liked the first option, I've gone ahead and fixed that part.
 * Best, Zinnober9 (talk) 10:38, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks+question
Hi! Just wanted to say thanks for fixing a closing tag on my userspace. Although, I do have a question: How did you find my userpage? I haven't done much yet on Wikipedia.

PolarClimates (talk) 15:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC)


 * You are welcome. The missing closing tag was triggering a "Multiple unclosed formatting tags" syntax error, which is a tracked error type found on Special:LintErrors. I enjoy fixing syntax errors here on Wikipedia, and while I've been focused on fixing another type of error recently, I occasionally clear off any error types that are no longer zeroed out, and your page was one of a few with this error last night. Zinnober9 (talk) 16:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Lint errors
Hellow @Zinnober9, last time you edited my userpage many days ago mentioning "lint errors" in summary. I don't understand what type of error it is. Can you fix it on my userpage if there is any error like that one? Last time you solved my problem in my userbox, I thankful to you for that. ZenDragoX (User) (Contact) 15:13, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * @Zendrago X Lint errors are various syntax issues like a missing closing html tags, misnested tags, or obsolete (HTML5 non-compliant) tags. A list of all 19 tracked error types are here, with each link going to a page that describes each specific error in more detail. Your user page has no errors right now and looks good. Do you ask because you can't get something to display as you want, or some other reason? Happy to help if I can. Zinnober9 (talk) 03:00, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I am having some error in my userbox, In my userbox, I have put the red box in black. But there was a gif along with it in the last red box, but that gif is being shown above instead of being shown on it. I meant that Gatto zzz.gif, which I added in both boxes and the red box is in black, but red one is not showing, can you please fix that error. Thanks. ZenDragoX (User) (Contact) 03:31, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I'm seeing each gatto gif at the bottom of their box color, so wondering if you are looking on mobile, or since the red gif is missing, I'm wondering if it's something like a caching issue on your end that would be corrected for you with clearing your browser's cache. This is what it looks like (at one particular moment) on my laptop: https://i.imgur.com/3VcCm8S.png, which sounds like what you want.
 * If you are on mobile, I know what to change, but if you are not, I'd recommend clearing your cache first. Zinnober9 (talk) 14:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, in mobile it looks different. ZenDragoX (User) (Contact) 14:08, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Zinnober9 If it will look the same in mobile view too, then please change the code in it. ZenDragoX (User) (Contact) 14:09, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * How's this for you? Zinnober9 (talk) 14:14, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It looks good now. Thanks ZenDragoX (User) (Contact) 14:23, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Great! Glad I could help. Zinnober9 (talk) 14:38, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Disruptive edits Level 1 warning
Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to User:Qwerty284651, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. This is for editing my page without my consent. Qwerty284651 (talk) 21:38, 5 May 2024 (UTC)


 * @Qwerty284651 I do admit I edited in error with today (May 5, 2024)'s edit, the ONE AND ONLY edit since our March 24th conversation on your talk page where I stated I'd ignore your page, and hoped that someone else would clear the errors in a way that satisfied you. No discussion or agreement was conversed prior to that March 24th discussion, so Level 2 and Level 3 warnings are not justified, not to mention "requiring your consent" is not a valid justification in regards to the rules of Wikipedia, as consent to edit another user's page is explicitly NOT required per WP:LINTER, SO LONG AS the edit is "for the correction of tracked syntax errors"''', such as those I corrected on your userpage.
 * However, I do admit I made an error with you from the social courtesy aspect of Wikipedia editing, (Cautiously editing or removing another editor's comments is sometimes allowed, but normally you should stop if there is any objection per WP:TPO), as I forgot our March 24th conversation. I've edited over 1800 pages since then and had forgotten. Sorry for that.
 * How can we proceed without further frustration towards each other? I'd like the errors resolved, and you'd like your page to remain as is.
 * I realize at this moment that my edit unintentionally adjusted the width of your time section a little bit. Is that the heart of your objection? If a fix were to keep that display width identical, would a fix be permitted?
 * Again, I'm sorry for my error of editing your page today. How can we work this issue out? Zinnober9 (talk) 22:34, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Greetings, @Zinnober9. I understand your intentions, but I want you to not edit my userpage again moving forward, even if it has linter errors per WP:NOBAN (If an editor asks you not to edit their user pages, such requests should, within reason, be respected.). Go fix lint errors elsewhere, but lay off my userpage. Qwerty284651 (talk) 10:57, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Very well. I will not edit your userpage per your wishes. Zinnober9 (talk) 18:58, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Account deletion request
Hey. I have a request.

I want to delete my Wikipedia account permanently due to certain reasons. But I can't do it. It would be really nice of you if you could help me on this. So can you please delete my account or block my account permanently.

Thanks BhikhariInformer (talk) 13:59, 7 May 2024 (UTC)


 * @BhikhariInformer I have no authority or ability to assist with any account actions, so not really able to help you with this other than share some info.
 * From what I've read, "Deleting" an account is not really an option, but that there are some similar options, which are mentioned here: Username_policy, and you can certainly ask for a WP:SELFBLOCK.
 * One of the admins listed here would be more knowledgeable than I for requesting a selfblock/page delete sort of request, so I'd suggest contacting one of them and they will be able to help you out.
 * Best wishes, Zinnober9 (talk) 14:34, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi there
I was wondering if I could get you to answer the question about where an appropriate place would be to take the concern about "bogus". I've been vaguely waved in the direction of the ticket system, which seems to have a whole process for signup that is probably a time sink unless I want to do unpaid software development, which I do not. If you don't know, that is an acceptable answer, but an answer would be nice. Thanks Elinruby (talk) 05:57, 11 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I had not replied since you had replied to Jonesey95 where they had unambiguously answered that, and I didn't feel I could add anything more to the conversation(s). While I don't have first hand knowledge of Phabricator, I agree with Jonesey95's clear response that Phabricator would be the place to do it and WP:PUMPTECH also directs people to that per the second sentence Bug reports and feature requests should be made in Phabricator.... You could certainly try posting to WP:PUMPTECH first, but you'll likely told Phabricator there as well.
 * I don't agree with you on this phrasing objection, but I'm not attached to the term either, so if it changes, it changes.
 * A word of caution though, stop with the charged commentary about Jonesey95 and stick to root of the matter, that you don't like the term Wikipedia uses for Invalid image syntax and want that changed. Leave any and all personal feelings you have about Jonesey95 out of it. Otherwise it might look as though your motive for filing the request is personal grudge instead of subjective motion. Zinnober9 (talk) 13:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)


 * /me stares. According to you the stuff about my delicate feelings is just fine and *I'm* the one that's making it personal? I have nothing against Jonesey95 except their tone of voice. And the fact that this is the second time they have done something like this, but that's over a period of at least two years. I do give them credit for changing their edit summary. I think you are being defensive of someone who is not being attacked. But in any event, moving on, I was hoping for something a bit more specific, but fine, you don't have first-hand knowledge of Phabricator. I appreciate the answer. Have a nice day. Elinruby (talk) 21:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Draft for the Battle of Kinugasa
Thanks for helping with the external image syntax in my draft, i just wanted to know how did you find the page considering its a draft? im new to wikipedia (to creating pages atleast, i have done a few edits before) so im not knowledgeable on these things. And what do you think of the page as a whole? thanks again, have a nice day :) BeamLSB (talk) 17:57, 16 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I tend to edit for syntax issues rather than content, so I didn't really pay attention beyond seeing that it looked normal for a draft. Looking at it now, overall tone seems fine. I do see that it doesn't currently have any sources stated. You will need to add reliable sourcing before it has any chance of passing AFC, but I think it will have potential if you get the sourcing in.
 * I found the draft from this page which uses the error report data from Wikipedia's reports here. There were a few EIS syntax issues ("Bogus file options") in various drafts, so did a quick little minor cleanup of this and a few other pages.
 * Best wishes, Zinnober9 (talk) 22:24, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah alright, good to know. Also i usually add references/sources at the end, and i finished adding them yesterday night and have submitted i to AfC now. Thanks again BeamLSB (talk) 08:38, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, but...
Hey uh, thank you for doing some minor changes that may or may not've needed to've been done to my user page. However, the change you made to the My other fun section, while I can tell was good-intentioned, also broke the section somewhat (the roll to the other rooms :P part was the most broken), so I had to revert the changes you made to that section whilst leaving the minor changes you made to my custom userboxes. Thanks for trying to help though, I appreciate it. AuroraANovaUma ^-^ (talk) 17:04, 18 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Ah, my apologies, I took the intention to be as how it was written instead of as it displayed since fostered content is a display error. Since the portion you reverted was the portion with the fostered content errors I was most interested in clearing, would either of these be an acceptable fix with the display you seek? I'm not sure if you want the head bouncing statement centered on the page or not, which is why I've done two options here. Thank you for your feedback. Zinnober9 (talk) 18:01, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Can we just leave it how it is if that's an option? AuroraANovaUma ^-^ (talk) 19:14, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I take it you don't like either possibility? Is there a detail I'm overlooking that is important to you that if I got right would please you? If I can, I want to make you happy and the clear the syntax errors, but if that is not possible, I can also leave the page alone for another experienced editor who might have better luck finding a solution that pleases you. Zinnober9 (talk) 21:16, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your help. Maybe i'll consider either one of your possibilities in the future, but I'd really appreciate it if you could just leave my user page alone for now. AuroraANovaUma ^-^ (talk) 21:27, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

BWF Team Rankings (2 April 2024)
Can you do BWF Team Rankings For Every Players Rankings? (2 April 2024) Malaysia Dragon (talk) 17:04, 26 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I have no knowledge or interest. Zinnober9 (talk) 17:53, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It's OK. Malaysia Dragon (talk) 02:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Charlesjsharp
Please keep off my user page. It seems you've messed up others' User pages. I'm sure you are trying to be helpful but you don't have the skills. Charlesjsharp (talk) 19:49, 12 June 2024 (UTC)


 * That is a big accusation verging on slander to be throwing around without examples. My considerate edit to your page corrected the tracked syntax errors on your page so that it complies with HTML5 and displays as your writing indicated. You page was missing a table closing bracket, a closing bold, and the gallery tag does not allow thumb or any individual image sizing parameters to exist within (they trigger invalid image option errors), so those were removed, and your page looks and displays identically before and after my edit, as it should.
 * My edit was in full compliance with WP:LINT, which allows me to make these edits on all namespaces of Wikipedia and which strictly limits what can and can't be changed.
 * As for my skills, I've been doing this type of editing for 2-3 years and have made tens of thousands of corrective edits, and have gained the trust of multiple admin (Primefac, Courcelles, HJ Mitchell, Juliancolton) (evidence) who have granted me (at my request) temporary access to various full protected pages to correct a numerous thousands of syntax errors on their own, and other admin's, talk page archives and many other pages. I do not claim to be perfect, and I'm always learning something new or a better way of correcting an issue, but to say I'm unskilled is offensive. Zinnober9 (talk) 20:47, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I've just found another of my user pages User:Charlesjsharp/Featured pictures of mammals on English Wikipedia (and others like it) that Zinnober9 edited and left with errors on 24 May. He states above that for me to state he is unskilled is offensive. He has left the text for every image on the pages unreadable; not intentionally of course, but leaving pages as he has demonstrates, without doubt, a lack of skills. His claim "page looks and displays identically before and after my edit" is simply not true. Can the admins listed please review your endorsement of his work and ask him to correct all my pages without delay. Charlesjsharp (talk) 02:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Your page prior to my edit. My initial correction. They were the same, near identically displaying pages, with the exception of the text color for the captions. The fostered content error on the page allowed the gallery's captions to ignore the table opening parameter (emphasis mine)  in the following:

{| class="wikitable" align="center" valign="center" style="margin: auto; background:Black; color:white; border: 0px" ... ...  Featured pictures of mammals   South-western black rhinoceros (Diceros bicornis occidentalis) female.jpg|South-western black rhinoceros Diceros bicornis occidentalis ♀ Namibia 🇳🇦 ... ...
 * This made the first correction allow what you had written to be applied to all text without a stated color within the gallery to be white as stated by the table, and not just the headers outside of the gallery where previously it had not entered the gallery portion. And since the text color from the table statement was still in effect and had not been dictated to change or end at this point, continued on within Gallery as it had been written.
 * Since you alerted me and were more descriptive of the issue this time around, I've made this correction, and have come to realize your complaint of the other page, so a similar correction to your userpage that had I first edited last week has now been made to now that I know the dark background (as written) was undesired.
 * Your userpage's table had a fostered content error which allowed the gallery to ignore the uncontained table commands and stay with a white background, instead of displaying the black background as written, and brokenly displaying the written table's black background as a tiny black square at the bottom of the page in the before version. Removing the  line that dictated this has restored the original visual display (minus the broken tiny black square).
 * Both of these pages were the fault of a judgement call, where I had a crossroad of various, equally viable, options and chose a differing solution that wasn't the same vision as the user wanted. My train of thought had been "The user wrote it to display this way, so it is assumed the user wants it to display this way". I appear to have made the wrong judgement call on this detail for both pages and I apologize. I hope both pages are now displaying as you wish them to be?
 * We don't need any drama when a simple note explaining the issue and your wished outcome will suffice. I can be reasonable and am happy to work with you, or any user and make you/them happy if I can, but don't insult me or my skills, and be clear (descriptive) with what the issue is. ("Thing X is/isn't doing expected Y") is very helpful in understanding the issue instead of trying to figure out vague "the page is all broken" sorts of statements.
 * Admin: If any admin takes issue with my judgement process in these crossroad decisions I made, or my promptness in correcting these issues once better described and the issue understood, I'm happy to chat. All my edits have been in accordance with Wikipedia rules as I know them to be for these sorts of corrections, and while I'm not perfect, I do act with respect and good intentions, and strive to understand any issues encountered.
 * My edits attempt to correct all Wikipedia's tracked errors on a page, while in keeping with Wikipedia's strict rules for editing other's pages for these error corrections; using the approved, regularly used by many, list for HTML-5 clean, equivalents. Where things occasionally get a little bit less defined is when the way a user wrote the page conflicts with how the "broken" page displayed, and something doesn't work/display the same after a command is corrected or closed. Various things that were ignored by the code suddenly come to life and become controlled by earlier/outer code (think onion layers), and choices need to be made. Do you stay with perceived intent of the code, or the perceived intent due to current display? This was the case here, and I went with intent of the code. I believe with my second edits to both of Charles' pages that I have corrected each to the presumed user desired display unless told otherwise.
 * Best wishes to you all, Zinnober9 (talk) 07:00, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * There clearly was a perceptible difference to the page after your edit so it's not unreasonable for Charles to take offence (editing another's userpage is generally considered discourteous at best). If someone asks you not to edit their userspace, don't. Continuing to do so could push it from discourtesy into the realms of disruptive editing. HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 10:45, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * All reasonable things I try to adhere to. I enjoy peace and calm, and correcting issues without ruffling any feathers. Not always possible, but generally works out smoothly. My mistake (for his userpage) was I had my browser's dark mode on, which, from what I've been hearing is similar to Wikipedia's upcoming dark mode feature, and it had displayed the table's stated black background the same way as it would for a standard white background on my screen (both black) so the issue was not initially apparent to me until last night where more details were shared. My initial reply based on this detail does make me look a bit blind to that clear difference and I regret that oversight.
 * Regardless, I still would have edited their userpage in the same way, with the same justification, "They wrote it with these desired colors, so it is assumed they intend for it to use these colors as written". The only difference in this course of events, had I been editing in light/standard mode, would have been that I would have understood the complaint sooner and remedied the issue the other week instead of now.
 * When errors affect the display and change from the original when corrected, some decisions need to be made on which to keep-- do you keep "The intent from how it was written", or "The intent from how it was displaying when found"? With my experience of addressing the many thousands of Tidy Font errors last fall (the link colors defaulting to the standard blue instead of the written user-stated colors), I've tended to favor how it was written over how it looked, since how it might not be displaying now how a user had it initially viewed a few years ago due to various updates through the years with Wikipedia's Mediawiki changes and HTML versions improving or slightly adjusting some things.
 * Since Charles requested below that I correct the remaining display issues, I've done those edits as requested. I have no further interest in interacting with them, and I don't foresee any such need to. If they wish to initiate anything further, my door is open, but I won't touch their pages further unless directed to.
 * Happy editing, Zinnober9 (talk) 22:26, 26 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you for editing my user page Zinnober9. But yet again, the work is not without error. You have restored the text but you have left a white box on the mammals page and white lines on it and the other pages, none of which I want. I also had the gallery images centered but you have changed them all to align left. Once you have restored these pages, I would be very grateful if you would agree to leave my pages alone as you have previously agreed to do with another user. What you need to understand is that amateurs like me try to create nice-looking pages (in my case galleries) by copying and pasting what we find on other users' pages. We have no idea how the syntax /html/whatever works. So if you change anything doing housekeeping tasks, we are stuffed. Charlesjsharp (talk) 10:17, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Due to the width of the flags on your profile being roughly the width of most of the country names, they filled the width allotted to each and displayed similarly, with only the shorter, (4-5 letter names) shifting some, so it was not immediately obvious on my laptop. For the Mammals and Birds galleries, I've addressed your stated concerns. Your Insects and Frogs galleries were not edited by me, but had similar assumptions made by another well respected editor back in April, so I've notified them of this issue. Zinnober9 (talk) 21:54, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Ciotti edits
I have added a source, which was redirected to Les Republicains X account, which CLEARLY STATED that Ciotti is still the president due to the fact that the political bureau failed to follow the necessary procedure and rules to remove a sitting party president. Maybe if you would read the EDIT DESCRIPTION WITH THE SOURCE, before intervening, you would know why I did all those edits. Thanks VosleCap (talk) 22:25, 12 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Replied to your talk page, but This edit of yours has no source for the disputed date claimed. Zinnober9 (talk) 22:31, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Inaccurate "fixing"
Regarding your recent edit to one of my user pages, User:Ingratis/BayrKloster2, you actually introduced a further error in your eagerness to fix another. I understand the good intentions behind your efforts but find this sort of unasked-for "help" quite irritating, so am asking you, politely, not to intervene further on any of my user pages. Best wishes, Ingratis (talk) Ingratis (talk) 07:25, 14 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Sorry for irritating you. I don't agree with your assessment of my edit. I introduced NO errors, and was fully accurate in my correction of the fostered content syntax error. The part that you appear to have taken issue with was that you had had "St. Faith's Priory" bulleted prior to my edit, which, sure, was inconsistent with the other entries in the table, but also was not causing any syntax errors. And while I did notice that it was bulleted and didn't match the rest of the table, I felt that changing that would be a content change and not a syntax change; I'm not permitted to change a user's content in the rules of WP:LINT, so I left it alone.
 * Best wishes to you as well, Zinnober9 (talk) 15:30, 14 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Not my reading of it, but, as said, I accept entirely that your edit was in good faith. Nevertheless, I'd be grateful if you'd not make any more such on my user pages. Ingratis (talk) 18:00, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of May the odds be ever in your favor for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article May the odds be ever in your favor is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/May the odds be ever in your favor until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. Викидим (talk) 00:40, 15 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I did not create the article, I have no interest in the article. Do with it as you wish. I cleared a bolding error and removed the redirect, as a page can't be both a redirect and an article at one time. Please contact the article writer instead. Thank you. Zinnober9 (talk) 00:45, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry for bothering you. This was an automated notification (WP:Twinkle), and I should have checked the script settings better. Викидим (talk) 00:50, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Bored?
Do you have nothing better to do with your time than root around in my sandbox? YoPienso (talk) 16:20, 18 June 2024 (UTC)


 * My personal interest on Wikipedia is to fix specific, tracked, syntax errors (in accordance to the rules of WP:LINT), and I go where the syntax errors take me. If that's someone's sandbox, so be it. My current error of interest is Wikitables, and we are down to 300 or so fostered content errors remaining, which are now predominantly in userspace. Once those are gone, I'll focus on a different tracked error that will probably be in a different namespace of Wikipedia. Best wishes, Zinnober9 (talk) 19:59, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Yopienso regarding your table usage, note that  is meant for a table caption so your current table produces incorrect syntax there. It will also look visually better to replace that with regular cells . Gonnym (talk) 07:52, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't know waht a table caption is and don't know how to code. I just think it's a waste of time to correct picky little things in a user's sandbox. But thanks to both of you for your kind responses that were intended to be helpful. Just call me Grumpy Granny? Best to both of you, YoPienso (talk) 16:00, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

I kindly request the retention of the Wikipedia page on Hari Ballabh Narayan Singh.
Archivehindu (talk) 17:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Dear,Zinnober9

I kindly request the retention of the Wikipedia page on Hari Ballabh Narayan Singh. The subject has made notable contributions in his field, warranting an encyclopedic entry. Deleting the page would overlook the significance of his achievements. I urge you to close the AfD discussion in favor of keeping the page, ensuring valuable information remains accessible.

Thank you for your consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:408A:2E1B:7E27:B5F2:4D33:8A94:F4E6 (talk) 17:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)


 * It is not my opinion you need to convince, but the community's. We've also been very clear in what critical issue the page has. We do not question his works, we question his notability, and that MUST be from OTHER people talking about him/his works. If you are able to address that issue, then great, I'll change my vote if/when the notability criteria is met. Until then, the community of Wikipedia is unable to accept the draft in its current state. If more people write or discuss him in reliably sourced ways, or more sources that show his notability are found, then the page could be reconsidered at that time. I appreciate your enthusiasm for creating an article (one of the very hardest things to do on Wikipedia), but arguing that he is notable because he wrote multiple books is a nonstarter argument, and the charades you'd done surrounding this discussion, constantly moving the page, focusing on me and my view instead of the community's view as a whole on this community discussion, blanking my talk page, has soured my view of you on this, and I ask that you do not contact or notify me again. Thank you. Zinnober9 (talk) 17:44, 4 July 2024 (UTC)