User talk:Zivinbudas

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3RR
Please do not revert articles without discussing your changes with others. This is considered to be impolite and, if you continue, you may be blocked for a potential violation of the three revert rule, which prohibits reverting any article to a previous version more than three times in any twenty-four hour period. Thank you. BrokenSegue 13:36, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

You have been blocked for breaking the 3RRR. You may like to read Neutral point of view while you are blocked from editing. In the future please explain your differences on the articles talk page--nixie 06:37, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Three revert rule
You have been blocked for 12 hours under the three revert rule. If you wish to appeal please contact another administrator or the mailing list.Geni 10:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Ištrynimui si&#363;lomas straipsnis su informacija apie okupuotas Baltijos šali&#371; dalis dalis
Labas. Keli lenkai ir baltarusiai nusprend&#279; ištrinti bet kokias nuorodas &#303; tai, kad pvz. Vilniaus krašto dabartin&#279; dalis Baltarusijoje priklaus&#279; Lietuvai, Suvalk&#371; kraštas Lenkijai, o taip pat Abren&#279;s ir Petserio bei Janilino kraštai - atitinkamai Latvijai ir Estijai. Kad tokia informacija neb&#363;t&#371; wikipedijoje, jie pasi&#363;l&#279; straipsn&#303; Occupied territories of Baltic States trynimui. Sprendžiant iš vieno baltarusio pasisakym&#371; straipsnio diskusijoje, sekantis trynimui pasi&#363;lytas gali b&#363;ti straipsnis Eastern Vilnius region. Kad sustabdyti ištrynim&#261;, reikia nueti &#269;ia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Occupied_territories_of_Baltic_States

Ir parašyti keep bei priežast&#303; kod&#279;l. Jei po savait&#279;s bals&#371; delete bus daugiau nei bals&#371; keep, straipsnis bus ištrintas. Kiek ma&#269;iau ten kai kurie jau rašo kitiems potencialiems ištrynimo šalininkams &#303; asmeninius pokalbius ir kvie&#269;ia juos balsuoti, tad nutariau ir aš pakviesti žmoni&#371;. DeirYassin 18:40, 15 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Jo, sekiau aš t&#261; straipsn&#303; apie indoeuropie&#269;i&#371; kalbas bet mano žinios kalbotyroje kiek menkesn&#279;s, nors dabar šiok&#303; tok&#303; komentar&#261; parašiau. Kas d&#279;l elgimosi protingai, tai jo, reikia - leisimasis &#303; revertus turb&#363;t daug gero neatneša nes anks&#269;iau ar v&#279;liau straipsnis bus užblokuotas, reik&#279;t&#371; padiskutuoti. Iš esm&#279;s straipsnyje gali b&#363;ti &#303;rašytos abi nuomon&#279;s su jas ginan&#269;iais ar neva ginan&#269;iais &#303;rodymais; na o manau skaitytojas atsirinks kur teisyb&#279; kai bus aiški logikos persvara vienoje iš pusi&#371; arba solidesni šalitiniai ir panašiai. O kai bus pateiktos abi nuomon&#279;s, tada jau jie netur&#279;t&#371; revertinti straipsnio, nors kai kada deja b&#363;na ir kitaip. O šiaip tai radikalios nuomon&#279;s vikipedijoje paprastai yra pateikiamos, nes &#269;ia yra tarsi vis&#371; žini&#371;, duomen&#371;, nuomoni&#371; ir panašiai bankas, bet, aišku, greta yra pateikiamos ir normalios nuomon&#279;s; t&#261; ir reik&#279;t&#371; daryti. Kur yra aiški neteisyb&#279;, aišku, reikia tik keisti paaiškinant (pvz. kad Vilnius buvo LDK centras), o kur gali b&#363;ti kelios nuomon&#279;s (d&#279;l didži&#371;j&#371; kunigaikš&#269;i&#371; ir karali&#371;), pateikti jas abi su argumentais, tada skaitytojas gal&#279;s atsirinkti ties&#261;. &#268;ia, aišku, mano nuomon&#279; - pasistengsiu kai k&#261; pakeisti kai straipsniai bus atblokuoti. O d&#279;l Occupied territories of Baltic States, Eastern Vilnius region ir kt. tai jo aišku, kad reikalingi jie, aš pats juos ir parašiau - &#269;ia jau aiškus bandymas ištrinti istorij&#261; mano nuomone, nes faktas, kad šie regionai tarpukariu priklaus&#279; Baltijos šalims. D&#279;l tavo min&#279;t&#371; straipsni&#371;, jei kuo gal&#279;siu prisid&#279;ti, prisid&#279;siu. Pats neseniai suk&#363;riau straipsn&#303; Lithuanian 1941 independence (gal kiek neteisingas pavadinimas, bet nežinojau koks b&#363;t&#371; geriausias, bet kokiu atveju daug redirekt&#371; &#303; ten yra iš kit&#371; pavadinim&#371;) apie Lietuvos laikin&#261;j&#261; vyriausyb&#281; 1941, gali paži&#363;r&#279;ti ir gal k&#261; paredaguoti ar papildyti.

A&#269;i&#363; už bals&#261; prieš trynim&#261;.

S&#279;km&#279;s :) DeirYassin 18:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Parašiau šioki&#261; toki&#261; ginam&#261;j&#261; kalb&#261; &#303; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Zivinbudas (skyriuje "Response") kur ten prieš tave keli žmon&#279;s peticij&#261; rengia; bet dar tu pats paredaguok ar prid&#279;k k&#261; nors jei nori prie to skyriaus. Kas d&#279;l nuorod&#371; davimo, tai galima, bet &#269;ia yra toks dalykas, kad gana dažnai administratoriai neužskaito bals&#371; d&#279;l trynimo ar prieš trynim&#261; tais atvejais, kai tas balsas yra pirmas arba vienas pirm&#371; vartotojo redagavim&#371; vikipedijoje. Nors &#269;ia šiaip jau ties&#261; sakant bendros tvarkos kiek žinau n&#279;ra. A&#269;i&#363; už ger&#261; nuomon&#281; apie mano straipsnius :) . Tikiuosi, kad pavyks išlaikyti min&#279;tus strapsnius ir kt. S&#279;km&#279;s tau.DeirYassin 14:10, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Request for Comment
I have started a Request for Comment about your recent behavior on Indo-European languages. Please read what I have said and respond in the section "Response". --Angr/comhrá 22:49, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

3RR
you're in violation of the 3RR again, Zivinbudas. please respond to the rfc instead of this futile reverting. go here: Requests_for_comment/Zivinbudas. dab (&#5839;) 10:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Please use talk pages if some work is needed before consensual veresion of an article can be produced. Violating the Three Revert Rule will get you blocked, which is best avoided. Thank you. Rama 12:38, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Atsakymas
Gerai, supratau. Straipsn&#303; apie okupuotas Baltijos šali&#371; dalis, kaip jau turb&#363;t supratai, pavyko išsaugoti; buvo apylygiai bals&#371; už ir prieš trynim&#261;, tad nuspr&#281;sta j&#303; palikti, tik pervadinti (dabar "Disputed" vietoj "Occuppied"). Kas d&#279;l prastos kalbos, manau &#269;ia turi omenyje lingvistiniais terminais pidžin&#261; (pidgin), jei neklystu (t.y. supaprast&#279;jusios gramatikos kalb&#261;, susidariusi&#261; kaip dviej&#371; ar daugiau kalb&#371; mišinys)? Beje, kai revertini, paži&#363;r&#279;k straipsnio istorijoje skirtum&#261; arp dabartin&#279;s versijos ir tos, &#303; kuri&#261; nor&#279;tum revertinti, nes kartais b&#363;na, kad revertinant, ypa&#269; jau po keli&#371; dien&#371; nuo paskutinio reverto, kas nors kitas b&#363;na &#303;d&#279;j&#281;s nauding&#371; pakeitim&#371;, o revertinant jie išnyksta (pvz. kas d&#279;l Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth tai ten kažkas buvo pakeit&#281;s iš "federation" &#303; "federation or confederation" poroj viet&#371;, o tu atrevertinai atgal &#303; "federation" tose vietose ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Polish-Lithuanian_Commonwealth&diff=14174105&oldid=14172781, stumk &#303; apa&#269;i&#261;), kitur taip pat panašiai išsinaikino nesusijusi informacija).

S&#279;km&#279;s :) DeirYassin 20:14, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Supratau. Dabar pjaunuosi su kažkokiu ruskiu fisenko, kaip suprantu iš ryt&#371; Ukrainos, straipsnyje Baltic Russians, jis ten toki&#371; nes&#261;moni&#371; prirašo ("Daugum&#261; rus&#371; vietiniai kolaborantai ir naciai kartu su žydais išpjov&#279;" ir t.t.), be to trina tikr&#261; informacij&#261;, pavyzdžiui jam nepatiko, kad buvo parašyta teisyb&#279;, kad &#303; kur kas daugiau rus&#371; nelegaliai imigruoja &#303; Baltijos šalis nei atvirkš&#269;iai, o taip pat informacija apie pr&#363;s&#371; taut&#261;, kadaise gyvenusi&#261; Karaliau&#269;iaus srityje, tai jis visk&#261; tiesiog ištryn&#279; ir šiaip jis ten nes&#261;moni&#371; prirašo, kokie rusai geri ir kokie baltijos šali&#371; gyventojai blogi su jais iš serijos. Vos sp&#279;ju atstatin&#279;t.

S&#279;km&#279;s, DeirYassin 09:08, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Behaviour
Jako &#380;e najwyra&#378;niej mówisz po polsku, nie b&#281;d&#281; si&#281; wysila&#322;. Zivinbudasie, masz prawo do swoich pogl&#261;dów, ale pami&#281;taj, &#380;e nie s&#261; one jedynie s&#322;uszne. Wyzywanie ludzi od najgorszych, obra&#380;anie ich narodowo&#347;ci i usilne promowanie swojej wersji bez konsultacji z innymi na pewno nie przyspo&#380;y Ci zwolenników. Póki co - je&#347;li si&#281; nie poprawisz i nie zaczniesz dyskutowa&#263; z lud&#378;mi jak z równymi sobie, najprawdopodobniej zostaniesz zablokowany permanentnie, a dok&#322;adniej ca&#322;y zakres IP z którego korzystasz. Czy w&#322;a&#347;nie o to Ci chodzi? Halibutt 10:51, May 26, 2005 (UTC)


 * Accusations of fanaticism or schisophrenia are exactly what I expected of you. Too bad. Halibutt 13:26, May 26, 2005 (UTC)


 * By the way, if you continue to misspell my name, I will take it as an offence and report it during the upcomming ArbCom case against you. Halibutt 23:17, May 29, 2005 (UTC)

Dar vienas atsakymas
Parašiau ten šiek tiek &#303; talk:confederation. Kas d&#279;l Pr&#363;sijos, tai kiek žinau po ordino sekuliarizacijos Pr&#363;sija v&#279;liau tapo ATR lenu (vasalu?), panašus statusas, kaip ir Kuršo kunigaikštyst&#279;s; paskui per karus su švedais leno statusas buvo panaikintas. Tai gal šit&#261; lenkai ir turi omeny. Kas d&#279;l procent&#371;, tai jo, aš ten buvau paraš&#281;s - ar tu žinai skai&#269;i&#371; 90%-95% iš koki&#371; nors dokument&#371;/knyg&#371;? Jei ne, tada turb&#363;t b&#363;t&#371; geriausia pakeisti laik&#261; (apib&#363;dinim&#261; kada) iš "LDK susik&#363;rimo metu" &#303; "Mindaugo valdymo pabaigoje" ir palikti 70%. O d&#279;l svai&#269;iojim&#371;, tai manau vis tiek baltarusi&#371; svai&#269;iojim&#371; Belarus ir Navahradak, kad Naugardukas buvo pirmoji LDK sostin&#279; niekas nepralenks :P. D&#279;l geguž&#279;s konstitucijos, tai turb&#363;t informacij&#261; apie j&#261; galima palikti, bet reikia pamin&#279;ti, kad d&#279;l konstitucijos oponent&#371; veiksm&#371; ir pan. ta konstitucija iš esm&#279;s negaliojo ilgai. Koki&#371; nes&#261;moni&#371; vienas baltarusis &#303; Talk:Eastern Villnius region priraš&#279; dabar, es&#261; Lietuvos atgautoje Vilniaus krašto dalyje baltarusi&#371; daug, netgi pasi&#363;l&#279; pa&#269;iam ten nuvažiuoti ir &#303;siklausyti kaip baltarusiškai jie šneka :P.

S&#279;km&#279;s! DeirYassin 19:51, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Confederation
Hi, Deir Yassin as made a good suggestion for the confederation page, please take a look. Would the changes he suggested there also cover the changes you want to make the PLC?--nixie 23:42, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Aktualijos
Paredagavau konfederacijos straipsn&#303; truput&#303; pagal savo pasi&#363;lym&#261;. Na o kas d&#279;l lenk&#371;, rus&#371; ir baltarusi&#371;, tai visada jie sako daug netiesos; reikia tokiu atveju paredaguoti straipsnius kur teigiama, kad Pr&#363;sija buvo ATR dalis; aišku, netrinti t&#371; sakini&#371;, nes tada jei tik atsatys buvusi&#261; versij&#261;, bet paaiškinti vasaliteto status&#261;. DeirYassin 09:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Gr&#261;žinau Geldap&#279;s pavadinim&#261; su paaiškinimu kod&#279;l jis ten turi b&#363;ti. Gal pavyks &#303;rašyti, Balstog&#279;s lietuvišk&#261; pavadinim&#261; man pavyko &#303;rašyti, tuo tarpu Sandomiro nepavyko (buvo perversta atgal nepaisant mano pareiškimo diskusijoje), nepaisant to, kad lenkai s&#279;kmingai &#303;raš&#279; Šiauli&#371; ar Panev&#279;žio pavadinimus (kai paprašiau paargumentuoti, pasak&#279;, kad taip daryti es&#261; reikia, nes ATR lenk&#371; kalba buvo pagrindin&#279;, taigi didel&#279; tikimyb&#279;, kad žmogus gaus žem&#279;lap&#303;, kur lietuvišk&#371; miest&#371; pavadinimai bus surašyti lenkiškai; tuo tarpu neva nebuvo spasudinami žem&#279;lapiai su lietuviškais pavadinimais; tad neva reikia lenkiškus pavadinimus surašyti lietuviškiems miestams, bet ne atvirkš&#269;iai). Pomeranija ar tik ne Pamarys lietuviškai (ar vis d&#279;l to Pamar&#279;)? D&#279;l Vilniaus pavadinimo tai gera id&#279;ja. Kas d&#279;l Balts, tai pats kalbotyroje ne tiek daug nusimanau, kad gal&#279;&#269;iau gerai ten visk&#261; ištaisyti. Tas veik&#279;jas neadministratorius man rodos, ir šiaip jau jis ir geras redakcijas man praeityje pervertin&#279;davo.DeirYassin 20:13, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

ArbCom
As required, I'm letting you know that Arbitration is being requested against you at Requests for arbitration. Halibutt 04:06, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

Editing behaviour
If you don't learn to work better with other editors, eventually every page you have been having an edit war over is going to be protected - and you probably will not like the versions that get protected.

In addition, every so often we will get tired of having to protect pages, and simply block all access from the Lithuanian ISP you are using, as we have done several times in the past. Needless to say, this will hurt other Lithuanians too - the block that was on for a while Sunday was lifted after it affected User:AndriuZ. So, if you don't want to make life difficult here for other Lithuanians, please adopt a different strategy for trying to get articles improved. Thank you. Noel (talk) 19:59, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

kreipimasis
Gerbiamasis, gerbiu Tamstos nuomon&#281;, ta&#269;iau per pat&#303; buvau užblokuotas ir tai sutrukd&#279; kai kuriuos mano darbus. Šiaip tai Wikipedia yra bendras projektas, tod&#279;l tenka taikstytis su "bendra" nuomone. Juk negal&#279;si kiekvien&#261; kart&#261; jungtis iš naujo IP... Matyt nuomon&#281; galima b&#363;t&#371; reikšti sant&#363;riau ir pripažinti, kad yra ne vien&#261; tiesa, bet tam tikra (galb&#363;t ir ribota) aib&#279;? --AndriuZ 12:44, 2005 Jun 1 (UTC)

Arbitration Committee case opening
Requests for arbitration/Zivinbudas has been accepted and is now open. Please bring evidence to Requests for arbitration/Zivinbudas/Evidence. Thank you. -- sannse (talk) 10:02, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Block of entire Lithuanian ISP
Since you have continued to revert war (e.g. here and here)on Baltic pages, I have (as I warned above) wound up blocking the entire Lithuanian ISP you are using. Needless to say, this will harm other Lithuanian editors. I hope you are happy you are now hurting other Lithuanians.

I also don't care if that means you cannot respond to your Arbitration case. I note that you made all those edits (above) since the arbitration was filed, and you didn't bother to reply on the arbitration issues, so I gather you just don't care about that anyway. Noel (talk) 19:38, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

PS: If you have anything you wish to have posted on your Arbitration case, email it to any of the arbitrators, and they can post it for you. Noel (talk) 19:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

D&#279;l miest&#371; pavadinim&#371;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_conventions/Vote_on_city_naming padariau ši&#269;ia balsavim&#261; ir diskusij&#261;, nes kitur jie vilkina laik&#261; ir neatsakin&#279;ja &#303; pasi&#363;lymus. Užkniso jau šitas reikalas su pavadinimais, tikiuosi išsisspr&#281;s dabar. DeirYassin 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

D&#279;l Lietuvos srities per pirm&#261; pasaulin&#303; kar&#261;
Labas. Gal gali paži&#363;r&#279;ti &#269;ia: Talk:Southern Lithuania ir Talk:Vilnius government precinct, o taip pat straipsnius Lithuanian province apie pa&#269;i&#261; lietuvos srit&#303; ir jos administracinius vienetus Southern Lithuania, Vilnius government precinct bei Kaunas government precinct. Parašiau šiuos straipsnius pagal kelis žem&#279;lapius, bet reikia ten koki&#371; nors &#303;rodym&#371; nes užgin&#269;ijo vis&#261; t&#261; informacij&#261;. O gal aš neteisus ir tokie vienetai neegzistavo?

S&#279;km&#279;s.

Trakai edit war
I have put my time, research and effort in editing Trakai article page to be as much NPOV as possible, but recent edit war makes me nervous - this article is not a playground for nationalism - whatever form it takes, Lithuanian, Polish or Jewish. From my point of view, removing Polish name Troki for Trakai was a right edit, since Trakai is the name which is printed in modern Polish maps and we already have Polish article for Troki. Reverting back the Polish would make the article more NPOV and make it a target for Lithuanian and Jewish nationalists.

These nonsense wars makes me sick and the first thing I want when I see this is send Wikipedia... well, I wont use Russian words - but it really hard to start contributing again, when people do not make any substantial input on article, but concentrate on their nationalistic point of view.

I am going to change that edit back and leave similar message to other Trakai edit war participants - user:Halibutt and user:Witkacy

user:DariusMazeika

Editing limited
1) Pending final resolution of this matter User:Zivinbudas is limited in editing to his user pages and this arbitration. Any other edits which are obviously Zivinbudas (which exhibit immature Lithuanian nationalism) may be removed.

--Witkacy 09:35, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Requests_for_arbitration/Zivinbudas/Proposed_decision

Arbitration case - final decision
A decision has been reached in the arbitration case relating to you. You have been banned from Wikipedia for one year. Please see Requests for arbitration/Zivinbudas for further details and the full decision. -- sannse (talk) 15:46, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

athletics
sorry - this was supposed to be on another user page. Punkmorten 08:51, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

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