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RE: Resent edits to List of Take-Two Interactive video games
The iFruit app is a companion app for GTA V, this app allow you to connect to your game on GTA V and allows you customize you cars, characters etc, through this app on iOS. You also need GTA V and a RSSC account to run this app meaning it's not a standalone game, it might have a little game elements but is no means a game. TheDeviantPro (talk) 13:12, 23 Septemeber 2013 (UTC)

November 2013
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Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.
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Howdy there, could I ask for your assistance?
I am nervous about user Ruby Murray and an article I follow and occasionally update. The article is the Anthony holland composer biography. Living. Ruby Murray is edit warring with me and when I check his user page I see that he has a habit of it...and he or she also seems as though they often get other users in trouble. I don't know if I should request for comment or ask for a third opinion or what. I know I'd like a little help with our dispute and it is the integrity of the article that should take precedent.

I don't want to get into trouble...I am already sick and tired of rubes passive aggressive threats..I would like to resolve our conflict but I am not sure how to do it... So think you can help the holland article and maybe help me stay out of trouble. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.200.208.230 (talk) 14:36, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Re:Edits to "My Chemical Romance discography"
Hello Zntrip, it's alright about the revert. You're right on both aspects, I was busy trying unify it and hadn't noticed the redundancy until you pointed it out. The tables look better now with the set width.

P.S. Love the MCR taskforce's work on Black Parade, great article (and album). Best, yeepsi (Talk tonight) 21:43, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Message to Zntrip
Hi, you seem to be a major contributor to the SCLC scene and I don't really know who else to go to so I figured I might as well come here! I want to create a separate page for the trial of Charles Taylor in the SCLC and I was wondering if that would be kosher with you. If not I could also lengthen his section on the SCLC page, but I'm rather new to the Wikipedia scene and I'm looking to help! Thanks for any help. pettyn (talk) 6:40, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Re: New Page for Charles Taylor
Thanks so much for the quick response and the welcome! I would absolutely love help on this project, even if it's just adding some formatting edits here and there or adding more substantial content. I am going to be finding more sources over the next few weeks and would really like to start up a new page. If I end up falling flat on my further research I will add the content I do find towards the current article on the SCLC page. Thanks again for the quick reply! pettyn (talk) 6:47, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

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Lego: The Hobbit
Hey Zntrip. In my edit summary here I didn't really have room to explain the issue sufficiently. The issue is that while the article is currently poorly titled, it would appear that the move request to the Lego The Hobbit (video game) would also result in a bad title. We never use parenthetical disambiguators like "(video game)" unless there is an existing article at a confusingly similar title title that we need to disambiguate the title from. See WP:PRECISION and WP:DAB. Likely the article should be moved to just Lego: The Hobbit, or maybe Lego The Hobbit or possibly something else, but there there does not appear to be any disambiguation purpose for "(video game)". Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:37, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

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There are currently 108 currencies that are circulating either as official or de facto currencies of the 193 United Nations (UN) member states, two UN observer states, nine partially recognized or unrecognized states, and 33 dependencies. These currencies include paper, cotton, and polymer banknotes and metal coins. Countries generally have a monopoly on the issuing of currency, although some countries share currencies with other countries. Today, currencies are the dominant medium of exchange. Different countries may use the same term to refer to their respective currencies, even though the currencies may have little else to do with each other. In some countries, the currencies used vary regionally. For example, four currencies circulate in the partially recognized state of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, which claims the territory of Western Sahara. Some currencies, such as the Nagorno-Karabakh dram (pictured), are not used in day-to-day commerce, but are legal tender.

List of military occupations
In this article you changed the format. It looks great BTW. The reason I'm here however is that you removed entries related to the Eritrean–Ethiopian War. Just two entries that is. However as you did it while reformating there is no apparent reason for the removal and I saw nothing on the talk page. I'm curious about the reason you choose to remove them.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 07:47, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree with your position. I actually added one of those to balance the other. I just though would of course be necessary to have a record for the reason of removal.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 00:59, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Amazing Spider-Man universe
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Nomination of ITunes Festival: London 2011 (My Chemical Romance EP) for deletion
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List of Military occupations
I was wondering if you would consider changing the format of the other categories besides "current" so they look like "current". So all of the lists share the same uniform format.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 16:15, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

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Nirvana songs
Hi, I noticed your work on List of songs recorded by Nirvana and just wanted to point out that there are still loads from In Utero deluxe/super deluxe that are missing from the article. Such as from disc one the bonus tracks: Sappy, Moist Vagina, IHMAWTD etc.. not to mention the demo recordings off disc two. QuintusPetillius (talk) 19:31, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

ICC Article
Thank you for your recent note on the talk page of the ICC article, and most especially for your expansion of the article in the jurisdiction section. As you will see when you have time to read the discussion through that my talk page note engendered, my concern is that the article currently does not adequately reflect the controversy regarding the Rome Statute, particularly regarding Article 12 which asserts that the ICC has jurisdiction over alleged crimes committed within the territory of a nation which is a party to the statute even if the alleged offending party or parties are from nations that are not parties to the statute.

From my research, it appears as if the Untied States rejects the validity of this assertion as an unilateral power grab not acceded to by our government, and perhaps other nations (I don’t know) make the same argument. What follows are two articles. One is a thorough review of the issue from a U. S. legal standpoint while the second is the official rejection of the ICC’s jurisdiction over U. S. citizens rendered in 2002 under the administration of President Bush the younger. I am uncertain if anything substantive has changed under the Obama Administration.

http://scholarlycommons.law.case.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1256&context=faculty_publications

http://2001-2009.state.gov/p/us/rm/9949.htm

I realize that it is presumptions of me to ask you to address this issue. However, as you are a senior editor and administrator and one well-versed in the issue of international law and such considerations, coupled with the fact that I have experienced vision problems of late, compels me to at least ask you for your kind assistance in this matter.

Please understand that I am not suggesting that the requested addition be anything other than objective. I simply would like it pointed out that there is such controversy concerning the legitimacy of this tribunal in certain situations and the possible resulting conflict such might engender.

Thank you once again and best wishes.HistoryBuff14 (talk) 13:52, 29 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for your courteous reply. It’s most appreciated.


 * As I said, I’m having vision problems right now while recovering from cataract surgery. I see all right, but my eyes tire easily which is why I just skimmed the article I presented to you for your consideration.  However, I was aware what the author’s conclusion was.  I also noted that it was thorough and presented arguments on both side of this question.


 * If you have the time to add the position of the United States under your suggested criticism section, that would be most appreciated as well.


 * Thank you for your time and consideration.


 * Best regards,HistoryBuff14 (talk) 17:21, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Matthew Miller
Responded to you at Talk:List of Americans detained by North Korea. Interested to see if you have any alternative proposals. The Blue Canoe  15:41, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

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ICC map
Hello Zntrip, are you aware that the "ICC member states world map" to which you often contributed has been nominated for deletion? See here.

The only point seems to be that it has not yet been updated for Palestine. Could you perhaps do that? I leave the same message on the talk page of EBB. Regards, Paul K. (talk) 00:16, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Tpyo
Have you noticed that your userpage's section on Subpages is actually titled Supages, with no b? --Thnidu (talk) 15:52, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

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List of Power Rangers episodes
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The information was removed as it is not relevant to the section. The information was listed as being irrelevant in the explanation section. Explaining into greater detail beyond that at this point is moot as it has already been explained numerous times to the user who keeps adding the section why it was removed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Power_Rangers_episodes&diff=679193918&oldid=679088938 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Power_Rangers_episodes&diff=678370000&oldid=678267531 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Power_Rangers_episodes&diff=675898883&oldid=675885947dex.php?title=User_talk:74.83.112.14&redirect=no — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.83.112.14 (talk) 05:12, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea
Hi Zntrip, Maybe you could add a table of judges ad hoc? Best regards, --89.15.238.60 (talk) 00:44, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

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shooting vs. shootings
Can you link me to any related discussions regarding this move? — Ched : ?  01:08, 29 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Just in case you didn't see it on my user page: I do apologize. You were right, and I was wrong. — Ched :  ?  21:38, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

About the Tomb of Suleyman Shah
I know as well as you do that Turkish soldiers were(and still are) guarding the tomb. What I insisted was to stick to what we had cited originally, even if it turned out to be fault. The specific link has now been removed and is replaced by another one, saying no "Kurdish-controlled" any more, so I'm not going to change it now. I am here for clarification only. -霎起林野间 (talk) 14:34, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replying. The edit was about nine months ago when you reverted my edition of that page. -霎起林野间 (talk) 22:25, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

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Rv. change...
What the HELL Does That Mean, and why UNDO MY EDITS?!

Are YOU Referancebot...? — 2601:183:4000:D5BD:C577:EF5D:6FA8:1A02 (talk) 00:34, 8 February 2016 (UTC)


 * No need to become upset. I undid your changes for several reasons: #1 you inserted a number of broken references; #2 the references were not to reliable sources (wikis are not reliable sources); #3 you made a number of improper format changes, such as adding links and references to section titles. – Zntrip 01:05, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Edits
Hey Zntrip,

I was a little presumptuous with putting that in so early. Thought no one would mind/notice. I was trying to get a jump on it for once, since I'm quite a procrastinator. In two weeks, I'll undo your undo so this will actually be true.

Thanks for the reality check:) --TJH2018 (talk) 01:21, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Hillary Clinton
Now I may be way out of line here as I don't know whether you are an expert in the area or not. I did, however, post something on HRC talk and would love a reply. I am fairly new at this :) Thank you! TheAce11912 (talk) 23:37, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Station list
Zntrip,

I just wanted to let you know that I had already made the changes in my sandbox, but they got reverted when I put them on the page too early. Sorry I didn't get to it before you did.

--TJH2018 (talk) 00:27, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

ICC map (2)
Hello Zntrip, thanks for updating the map "File:ICC member states world map.png" to include El Salvador. But I wonder: why have you made it light green rather than dark green? Apparently, now that this country has deposited the instrument of accession to the Rome Statute, it has become a state party to the International Criminal Court immediately. As you can see here on the ICC's website, the ICC has included El Salvador in the number of states parties, which number it lists as 124 now.

By the way, could you tell me how such a map can be updated? Best regards, Paul K. (talk) 00:36, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Dear Zntrip, I regret that this still has not been adjusted, the colour of El Salvador is still light green. This was probably right at that time, but here you can see that El Salvador became a full state party already in 2016. I have no idea how this can be adjusted on this map, but apparently you know how to do this. Can I request that you do this? Thanks. Paul K. (talk) 19:13, 27 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi Paul! The easiest way to edit the file is to use Microsoft Paint. It's very easy to copy the color you want with the Color Picker tool and use the Fill with Color tool to change the color. I'll go ahead and update the file for you. You may want to consider switching over to File:ICC member states.svg. That map has a different color for states which have "un-signed" the Rome Statute and it is updated regularly. – Zntrip 02:50, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Zntrip. Paul K. (talk) 16:52, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

map for List of circulating currencies
Thank you. I wouldn't have liked to answer that. I'd kind of like to tell Szqecs where they're misunderstanding things, but I really don't want to deal with an attitude like that.-- Thnidu (talk) 01:51, 21 April 2016 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Hopefully this issue has been sorted out. – Zntrip 02:09, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Legal Tools
Still a stub, but probably of interest to you. Best regards, --Erzer (talk) 13:58, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

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Environmental Crimes
Hi, any suggestion as to where one puts the paragraph for environmental crimes in ICC article? Looks like it is a pretty notable development and deserves a note.Sattar91 (talk) 08:16, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Ever since the climate change issues have become visible, lots of campaigning have been going on requesting the Prosecutor to mention environmental crimes in the Policy Paper and consequently follow up such cases that are considered major threads in peace time. The efforts turned to be meaningfully oriented and heated after the 2015 Paris Conference. When the draft of the Policy Paper was published in last February, some were partly disappointed as to have little direct mentions of environmental crimes in the document. In article #40 it could read as: "The impact of the crimes may be assessed in light of, inter alia, the suffering endured by the victims and their increased vulnerability, the terror subsequently instilled, or the social, economic and environmental damage inflicted on the affected communities". It was a good development comparing to the trivial mention of environment in the 2013 document, but still not good enough. The pressure was kept high then and lobbying/campaigning were going on; and the result was that the article #41 in the final Policy Paper (the one you referred to) now reads as: "The impact of the crimes may be assessed in light of, inter alia, the increased vulnerability of victims, the terror subsequently instilled, or the social, economic and environmental damage inflicted on the affected communities. In this context, the Office will give particular consideration to prosecuting Rome Statute crimes that are committed by means of, or that result in, inter alia, the destruction of the environment, the illegal exploitation of natural resources or the illegal dispossession of land". So as you observe, there is an obvious shift towards the environmental crimes when looking at the trend of the policies between November 2013 and September 2016. I hope the explanation sounds convincing to you that this was actually a notable movement, a major shift (Reuters), a change of focus (Guardian), a move with significant effects (Washington Post) and a powerful environmental message (Independent). If you agree, let's find a proper place in the article to add this up. Thanks- Sattar91 (talk) 08:34, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not so sure that this is indeed a notable development. The Policy Paper on Case Selection and Prioritisation mentions that both the "manner of commission of the crimes" and "impact of the crimes" will be assessed when selecting cases, and "destruction of the environment" is one factor is both of those considerations. – Zntrip 17:29, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. I am going to explain the importance of the case a bit more, so that we may agree on forward-editing of the article. To start, the publication of this Policy Paper is a big news per se and many have been impatiently awaiting that after all the discussions and efforts to make the vague language of environmental protection slightly clearer in the same document back in November 2013.


 * I think it's important to understand the role played by a policy paper and to not give a subject undue weight. A policy paper does not give the Court jurisdiction over a new category of crimes, it only promises that the Prosecutor will consider environmental destruction and land grabbing when selecting cases. It is actually quite similar to how the Prosecutor already considers sexual and gender-based violence. The media coverage of this announcement seems to be due solely by the publicity efforts of Global Diligence LLP and Global Witness, which have an interest in advocating for alleged victims of land grabbing and therefore some media outlets appears to be greatly exaggerating the effect of the policy paper. Note that The Washington Post states that "the ICC's shift seemed to be more subtle" and quotes Alex Whiting, a well known international law professor, who states: "They aren't changing the definitions of crimes or expanding the law or creating new crimes or anything like that. . . . They are paying particular attention to crimes that are committed by use of environmental impact or have consequences of environmental impact." That said, I think this information should be included in the article, but it must properly placed, well explained, and given proper weight. – Zntrip 18:11, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I do agree that it is not a change in jurisdiction or a new definition of crimes, but rather an expansion of the coverage and a special focus. I also agree that the text should have the proper intonation not to be exaggerating on what's going to happen from now on. Should we include a brief paragraph at the end of International_Criminal_Court entitled "Focus on environmental crimes"?Sattar91 (talk) 08:16, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
 * After looking at the article, I believe the best place to mention this would be under the "Office of the Prosecutor" section. – Zntrip 20:27, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it is partly done now. Can you have a look and feedback?--Sattar91 (talk) 09:10, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The addition looks very nice! The only thing missing is a mention of environmental crimes, of course, from the latest policy paper. – Zntrip 22:36, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Done :). --Sattar91 (talk) 12:30, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

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Your automated rollbacks of International Criminal Court
RE: edit 758381125

I'm not going to try to edit the page again because there is no quick correction of bot editing, so, here is justification for that edit: http://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/future-of-icc-in-doubt-after-african-countries-withdraw/

South Africa, Burundi and Gambia have withdrawn from the ICC. File:ICC member states.svg is from 2013 and out of date, so best to hide it.

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ICC and Complementarity:
Hello Zntrip! Admittedly I am not a regular edtior but I have noticed that the wiki page on the International Criminal Court could be greatly improved expecially as far as the principles of complementarity and gravity are concerned. For the gravity issue there are a couple of recent Oxford University articles I was thinking of putting itno the page. As far as complementarity is concerned, I removed the author's name as initially suggested by you but left all the relevant information which also linked to TWO other wiki pages and leading authorities on this field (e.g. William Schabas); two external links to the authorities scientific work were also included.

So I don't see why the old Wiki version you are suggesting is any way better in comparison to the new version, since:

(1) the old version is extremely short for such a critical issue of international justice (2) essentially, the old version does not contain any significant information other that what is written in the ICC constitution. (3)the new version on complementarity offers much more substantial information and updates properly the Wiki page regarding extremely recent theoretical and practical developments with links to other wiki pages and external links for scientific articles.

In any case, I believe that we could at least agree that the Old version needs improvement and if you wish you could write about it.

I thought it would be BEST if I discussed these issues with you first before updating the ICC Gravity Section as well, following a copule of recent Oxford Univeristy articles and after taking also into account that there currently exist only two lines for this crucial criterion too!

P.S. Another suggestion could be to move this section to the Criticism Chapter! :-)

Warm regards, --Agnostosnous (talk) 04:02, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

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Wikidata?
What are your thoughts about using Wikidata items in Wikipedia, especially in articles on law?

Wikidata seems to me to be quite useful in that I can create a Wikidata item for a source I want, e.g., Judge. Then each time I want to cite that source, it's as easy as finding it in Wikidata and using Template:Cite Q, as, e.g.,.

Creating a Wikidata item is more work than creating a single citation. However, if I cite that source in more than one article, I think I get better, more complete and more easily maintained references by using Wikidata. This is particularly true with link rot: If one web link is no longer valid, only the Wikidata entry needs to be changed to correct all the references that use that Wikidata entry. Without that, the link would have to be fixed separately in every article that cites that source.

I'm currently working to improve the Wikipedia article on Fish v. Kobach. This case had two appeals (that I know of) plus a third just filed a couple of days ago. It occurs to me that it might be good to have one Wikidata entry for the case in the United States District Court for the District of Kansas and one more for each appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit plus separate Wikidata entries for each document that someone wants to cite separately.

I've asked about this on Wikidata:Wikidata:Project chat. Sadly, I have not gotten a reply there, and I felt a need to also ask here.

Comments? Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 02:51, 7 August 2020 (UTC)


 * I do not have much experience with Wikidata, but I think that your approach should be no different from any other source you want to cite. I think one thing that may be helpful is to not think of a case as the source you are citing. You cannot cite different "parts" of a case like pages of a book. The actual source is a filing made in the case, whether it is a brief filed by a party, the judgment of the district court, an interlocutory appeals decision, or a final appeal decision. – Zntrip 05:51, 8 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks very much for the reply. Might you know anyone with Wikiproject Law with experience with Wikidata or who might be willing to help develop procedures for using Wikidata within Wikiproject law where such procedures may not have been developed yet?
 * I have no substantive legal training, not counting a few workshops for university researchers and journalists on intellectual property law. Fish v. Kobach is one case in the District of Kansas with three appeals to the 10th Circuit court.  I'm somewhat familiar with PACER / RECAP / CourtListener.  I've used that to learn about and acquire documents in the district court and the first two appeals.  (I know a third appeal has been filed, but I'm not sure how to find that case in the 10th circuit.  I haven't looked hard, but it was not trivial to find.)
 * Wikidata has seemed to me to be quite valuable, and it has seemed like I should take the time to try to do a good job with this, rather than just charge blindly ahead and do something to achieve what I want with that one article. Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 06:48, 8 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, I don't know of anyone who might be able to help you out. Wikidata in general is something with which I only have very limited experience, and I'm not active on any project pages. I think your issue really involves a larger discussion on how citations in general can or should be done on Wikipedia. I image there are many sources (e.g. peer reviewed studies, investigative reporting, primary sources) that can benefit from Wikidata integration, but I don't know if there has been discussion about this. I would ask around on some project pages, or maybe try to track down some very active users, but if that doesn't work, I would suggest you do what feels right, see how it is received, and make adjustments as necessary. – Zntrip 08:24, 8 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks again. I'm out of time, so I will do something.  One of my first managers at age 24 fresh out of college as a Lieutenant in the US Air Force was a Lieutenant Colonel.  One day after reading a letter I had written for his signature, he looked at me with a twinkle in his eye and a smile on his face and said, "I'm going to do something, even if it's wrong!"
 * Sometimes we have to do that, just to get anything done. That can be critical in combat, because if you stay put too long, the enemy might more easily destroy you than if you keep moving! DavidMCEddy (talk) 13:47, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

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December 2020
Hi I was just wondering on the My Chemical Romance discography page why you kept changing the certification names back to country names. For example the official music certification for the UK is BPI. Wouldn’t it make more sense to just put the official music certification names instead of countries? Jordantrsonlychild (talk) 13:41, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi and thanks for reaching out. The abbreviations of the certification industries are not well known and do not correspond to the name of the country. For example, I believe most readers would know that "CAN" means "Canada", but I doubt many would know "MC" stands for "Music Canada". For that reason, I think the country where the certification was awarded is more important that the name of the organization. – Zntrip 03:32, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back. I understand the lint you’re making and it’s a good one. It’s just that I’ve seen other artist page with the organization name than the country name. Again thanks for getting back Jordantrsonlychild (talk) 22:57, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Sorry I meant to say *point not lint Jordantrsonlychild (talk) 20:05, 23 December 2020 (UTC)


 * No worries. Would you have any objections if I edited the article to use the country abbreviations? – Zntrip 03:22, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Go ahead. It’s all good Jordantrsonlychild (talk) 22:18, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Apostille convention
He Zntrip, I saw you additions to the Apostille convention, which I find in general an improvement. I notice China is stil missing the specifications that it applies to Hongkong and Macao, but I assume the notes-section is going to show that. However, I wonder if you'll also re-introduce the objections of states to new-states that result in non-application between those states? L.tak (talk) 22:22, 31 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'm adding notes regarding that, territorial applications, and state succession. I'm actually working on it right now, and I should have added an under construction template to the section. Apologies for the confusion. – Zntrip 22:32, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem, I hardly use the template ever ;-)... good luck with the notes! L.tak (talk) 22:56, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'm all done. The notes drove me crazy and I feel like I probably messed a few things up. If you have any free time, I would appreciate a quick review for any errors. – Zntrip 01:20, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I can imagine those footnotes are a hassle. I think it is ok and consistent. What is not in are the notes with regards to the objecting nations (eg with Germany), but I suppose there is more than enough info in this table, so I'd leave it as is now. Thanks for the work! L.tak (talk) 19:25, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

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My Chemical Romance discography
Hello. I see that you're the editor who re-introduced unsourced sales and country initialisms instead of the initialisms for the certifying body on the discography. Firstly, certifications do not and never have equated to actual sales. Obviously a large portion of the certifying figure is sales. However, primarily before the digital era cut into physical sales, these figures regularly included potentially thousands of copies shipped to stores that had not and may never have been sold. Certification thresholds have now been changed in the streaming era to include a certain amount of streams equating to one unit, which now counts towards certifications that record labels can apply for. These are obviously not sales and should not be indicated as such. Regardless, I'm very confused as to why an established editor like yourself is introducing unsourced claims on any article. Unless the sales have actual reliable sources, the column should not be included whatsoever.

Secondly, my edit unifying the initialisms used to the certifying body in 2019 stood for over a year without question, so I would think WP:BRD applies. WP:DISCOGSTYLE, while an essay and not an adopted policy, is the standard now for discographies that editors have attempted to follow since it was written. If it's not "reader friendly" in your opinion, I would point to the fact that on first instance, the initialism is linked and readers can click through to or hover over the link (depending on their configuration) to find out which country it applies to. Talk:My Chemical Romance and Talk:My Chemical Romance discography would be better places to ask or propose how we format the discography and what is more helpful instead of changing it back without explanation after a year. Or better yet, if you think the whole project would benefit from adapting to your point of view, propose it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Discographies or another music talk page that gets more attention like Wikipedia talk:Record charts. Thanks.  Ss  112   07:49, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


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Hi Zntrip, why is Afghanistan marked as a monarchy in your map? Greetings --Jossi (talk) 12:13, 11 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi Jossi! I haven't worked on that map in years. It looks like someone added Afghanistan in October 2021. Please review the file page at the Wikimedia Commons. – Zntrip 18:49, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn't check the file history. I have now corrected it myself. Thank you --Jossi (talk) 19:31, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

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Question about DCUAOM Edit
Hi Zntrip, I was just wondering why Constantine: City of Demons does not count as a film for DC Universe Animated Original Movies. My understanding was that it started as a CW web series but then got turned into a feature-length film and is set in the DCAMU. Thanks. (Sorry for the many edits.) Along517 (talk) 13:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for reaching out. The film is not part of the series because it was never billed or advertised by Warner Bros. as being part of the series. If you can find a source, we could of course add it to the list. The series has only every been original straight-to-video films. There were several films that were originally released as web series on The CW that were never part of the film series, including Deathstroke: Knights & Dragons, Vixen, and Freedom Fighters: The Ray. – Zntrip 04:17, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Zntrip Thanks for the response. I'm not sure if this qualifies but Warner Bros did have a screening of it and described it as an original animated movie spinning off the CW digital series. Here's the writer also confirming that it is in the same world as Justice League Dark (film) which is in the DCAMU. Thanks. Along517 (talk) 18:00, 15 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I am by no means the arbiter of what is and is not part of the series, but I don't think the source you provided actually references the film series. The films usually state "DC Universe Animated Original Movies" on the cover above the title. – Zntrip 07:10, 16 June 2024 (UTC)