User talk:ZooPro/Archive January 2010

To ZooPro
Hi, thanks for helping me in taking over WikiProject Zoo. I just want you to know that I appreciate it, and that if you ever decide to come back, that you are welcome to assume leadership of the WikiProject again. Cheers, The Arbiter  ★★★  01:12, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Back
Welcome back! Ucucha 12:45, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

User subpages restored
I restored User:ZooPro/About Me, User:ZooPro/Sandbox, User:ZooPro/Sandbox 2, User:ZooPro/Billabong Koala Park, User:ZooPro/Userboxes, User:ZooPro/OldUserPage, User:ZooPro/Award, User:ZooPro/Notes and References, and User talk:ZooPro/Archive June 09. I believe that that is all of them, but do please let me know if I missed any. - 2/0 (cont.) 16:33, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Back?
I presume you are back then?  Intelligent  sium  22:59, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think he ever left :P  Zoo Fari  00:35, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes i am back and Yes ZooFari i did keep an eye on things from a distance :), I am now refreshed and ready to get back to fixing our Project Problems.  Zoo Pro  00:56, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Taxanomy of the domestic cat
Greetings ZooPro. I am Shadow Android. For a long time, I thought the domestic cat is Felis Sylvestris, yet on the page Cat, it is listed as Felis catus. Since I read your profile, you seem to know a lot about animals. Could you clearify this Taxanomy mistery for me? Thank you.

Shadow Android (talk) 21:42, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

✅  Zoo Pro  21:56, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Notification: Proposed 'Motion to Close' at Wikipedia:Community de-adminship/Draft RfC
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Community de-adminship/Draft RfC re: a 'Motion to close', which would dissolve Cda as a proposal. The motion includes an !vote. You have previously commented at WikiProject Administrator. Jusdafax  01:43, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

✅ Cheers i will.  Zoo Pro  06:09, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
—innotata (Talk • Contribs) 15:55, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Welcome Back!
Hey there, welcome back. Yeah, I'll work on the userbox and other things, but currently, I am taking a wikibreak till the new year, so I will be back then. See you soon! The Arbiter  ★★★  19:31, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

"Brilliant assessor"
I'm not that (as you claimed at User talk:Belugaboy535136). I recently forgot about the "start" class for a bit, and assessed a bunch of articles as stub or c. Here's a question: should the Template:Mammal doc page make a note about preferring the Template:Rodent etc. rather than the parameters in that template? I'll mostly be assessing rodent pages, and also browsing for important pages needing assessment (musk-ox was one.) —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 20:42, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I have responded on your talk page in more detail but my answer is Yes.  Zoo Pro  04:11, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Cetaceans
Hello, ZooPro! This is Belugaboy535136, again. As you know, I am a member of WikiProject Cetaceans. I noticed at the bottom of my userpage, there was no CATEGORY:WikiPROJECT CETACEANS MEMBERS as there were for mammals and zoo. And I searched "Category:WikiProject Cetaceans Members" or whatever it said, and hit search, and there was no results found. If you could get this page made ASAP, I would be much grateful of you. Warm regards, Belugaboy535136 (talk) 13:44, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

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✅ and thanks for the Kitten.  Zoo Pro  03:50, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks and you're welcome! Have a nice day, Belugaboy535136 (talk) 16:23, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Caspian tiger
If that is the case, then the articles on Gibraltar monkeys and black panthers should get their own taxboxes. They dont, because the former is simply a population of an animal that already has a taxbox describing it, and the latter is simply a colour variant. Colour and population variations (unless recognised as distinct taxons) do not merit taxboxes.Mariomassone (talk) 02:05, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Fine, I shall rephrase it as "melanistic leopard". Taxboxes should be reserved for distinct taxons. Subspecies should be the minimum requirement. Colour variations or populations seperated by purely "political" boundraries do not fit that.Mariomassone (talk) 02:18, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

None in particular. I'm satisfied with the current policy, though if your appeal to the administrators works, I won't have a problem with it.Mariomassone (talk) 10:49, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Tropic World
Hi, ZooPro. It's Belugaboy535136. I was wondering if you could take a look at my new article, Tropic World and give me your opinion. Thank you for your time, Belugaboy535136 (talk) 16:22, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

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I Can't Take It!!
I can't take the pressure anymore! I admit it! I did place myself as coordinator. I noticed it and thought the Cetaceans Project needed one. I didn't know that some don't have to have a coordinator. Please don't put this on record, I'm having so much fun as a Wikipedian, and with my articles. Thank you, Belugaboy535136 (talk) 23:37, 28 December 2009 (UTC) P.S. Please stop the pressure! I'll try to stay at the bottom of the WikiProjects.


 * Ummmmmmm WTF, i have no idea what you are talking about, Please explain????  Zoo Pro  06:39, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay now i am up to speed. Refer to my response on the Cetacean talk page.  Zoo Pro  06:55, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

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AAR page importance
I've reassessed the importance of these pages, and I'd like to have your opinion on the matter:


 * Bog Turtle (low, used to be top)
 * Caecilian (top, formerly mid)
 * Amphisbaenia (high, formerly low)

I think the names should be enough to know what this is about. —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 23:46, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I've responded. —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 16:39, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

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Collaboration
so, any news on the collaboration project for WP:ZOO? The Arbiter  ★★★  22:53, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Crap i forgot about that, i will have a look over it today and find out what needs doing. Are you happy with World Association of Zoos and Aquariums or does something else catch your eye. I nominated it becuase it the central point of zoos all around the world.  Zoo Pro  23:54, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks like as good a place to start as anywhere. :) The Arbiter  ★★★  00:07, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Excellent, im just playing around with the Red Kangaroo article at the moment as there is some conflict over the photo's. Zoo Pro  00:09, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

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File permission problem with File:Wes Mannion with Tiger.jpg
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✅ though dissapointed in the lack of Good Faith/Trust. I had assumed by now i could be considered trustworthy of uploading an image. Zoo Pro  05:31, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Re:Your recent tagging of File:Wes Mannion with Tiger.jpg
-  F ASTILY  (T ALK ) 05:51, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Primates
Hello, this is Belugaboy535136 again. It's so nice to see your talk page once more. I was wondering how you set up a poll for project coordination, as I think WikiProject Primates needs a coordinator deeply, being one of the busiest WikiProjects on the English Wikipedia. Regards, Belugaboy535136 | Click this link to visit Belugaboy535136's talk page!! —Preceding undated comment added 00:15, 2 January 2010 (UTC).


 * No, you don't understand. I wasn't going to nominate myself, I'm not nearly experienced enough. I was going to nominate a much more experienced editor. Regards, Belugaboy535136 (talk) 13:30, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, stop yelling. I shall remove myself from WikiProject Primates. Let's just NOT talk to each other anymore, OK? I don't give a care anymore. Please, do it for the better of both of us. Regards and goodby, Belugaboy535136 (talk) 13:34, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I have not yelled at you however i dont wish you to be a part of the WikiProjects.  Zoo Pro  04:57, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

✅ Thank god.

Ping
Email.  Zoo Fari   00:35, 2 January 2010 (UTC) ✅
 * Ping. -- Zoo Fari  17:16, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think so, it was about time to do the right thing. -- Zoo Fari  23:44, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

✅ reported to ANI  Zoo Pro  04:56, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Spider monkeys
Can you explain Wikipedia's stance on taxonomy, names, the IUCN, and more in regards to Red-faced Spider Monkey to Belugaboy535136? I'm losing my patience over this all. See the talk page for Red-faced Spider Monkey, my talk page, etc. —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 22:53, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


 * See also: this removed revision of Talk:Red-faced Spider Monkey. —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 23:11, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


 * As I expect you've noticed, he's removed the message from his talk page. —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 14:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I think either you or User:Swift said that it hasn't been much work to clean up after Belugaboy535136. I've been doing just that and I rather disagree. I think a block is in order, given that about 20 pages have had there IUCN status changed incorrectly (Gelada and Ringed Seal among them). Add that to all the pages requiring cleanup. —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 15:58, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Have you also noticed the rather more harmless way he's been copying other people's signatures, and changing them almost every time he makes a comment. This is rather in line with his "attitude". —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 16:01, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

✅ Problem dealt with.  Zoo Pro  04:55, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Denver Zoo
One more thing for your list... If you are inclined, you can take a look a edits made on the Denver Zoo article (or not), and my reply here. Evidently relatives are everywhere, and they are all authorities.Donlammers (talk) 01:33, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks though i think i have said enough. I dont want to break his spirit just turn it into something more productive i hope it works.  Zoo Pro  02:04, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree. I've read through a couple of the references you gave, and I think everyone is doing pretty good at balancing this one. Time will tell.Donlammers (talk) 10:54, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

✅  Zoo Pro  04:55, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Springer & other stuff
Hi ZooPro,

Just wanted to say thanks for offering your time on Talk:Springer (orca), and I'm looking forward to your comments there. Also I just got your note on Belugaboy - thanks. I'll reply to it on my talk page. Best, Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 07:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

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Old Ephraim
Hi. I was told that you were busy, but if you do manage to get a spare moment or two, would you be willing to help me with Old Ephraim? If we are fast, we could probably get a DYK on this article, and if we are really good, this would make a great GA or FA. If you are too busy, that is fine, but if you know anyone else who would be interested in this article, can you please notify them? See User talk:Intelligentsium for a better understanding of the situation. Cheers.-- Domestic CAT 23:45, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

I will try and help as best as i can.  Zoo Pro  23:54, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

You did a very good job helping. Thank you. It is now a DYK nominee. :)-- Domestic CAT 01:17, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

No Worries.  Zoo Pro  01:56, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

✅  Zoo Pro  07:21, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Hey
So, as a coordinator of Wikiproject Zoo, am I allowed to assess and reassess articles? By the way, there are lot of Zoos and Aquariums, but very few members. How do we get more members? The Arbiter  ★★★  02:09, 7 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Responded on your talk page.  Zoo Pro  07:22, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

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User:Domestic Cat
User:Domestic Cat is trying to be a one-user WikiProject (Squirrels). What do you make of the matter?

Note that I never said that.-- Domestic CAT 22:42, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

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You got me
I'm honestly surprised that others here have so much faith in me that they are begging for me to stay, but if they really think I could be an asset to Wikipedia, then I'll stay. I'll continue where I left off adding articles to Wikiprojects but for now I will use the recommended "RODENTS" tag instead of the "SQUIRRELS".-- Domestic CAT 07:45, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I am just here to help, i like to ensure everyone is on the same page and all the facts are known.  Zoo Pro  10:08, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry if the episode caused inconvenience. I really am lucky to be given the opportunity to work with top-class editors.-- Domestic CAT 10:21, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Was no problem at all, you should have been around for the last drama it was an nightmare but its all under control now. I would invite you to join a number of Animal related wikiprojects and help out all over. Once again its good to see you decided to stay and i look forward to reading your future edits.  Zoo Pro  11:11, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Hey ZooPro. Would you be able to show me how to fill in taxoboxes to animal articles such as Spotted sucker. I want to know how to do it myself, and this would also save others the stress of doing it every time I create a new article. Cheers.-- Domestic CAT 20:28, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Will do give me 24hours.  Zoo Pro  04:43, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Wildlife Warriors Logo2.jpg
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Speedy deletion declined: Yu Ram Cha
Hello ZooPro. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Yu Ram Cha, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: winning in a notable event indicates significance and article claims coverage in reliable sources. Thank you.  So Why  13:38, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Speedy declined
Robert Donington had clear assertion of significance, and was wikilinked from relevant places. Rd232 talk 13:39, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Meh no problem now i know why there is such a backlog on new pages cause people dont wanna help, i think i will stick to my wikiprojects. Zoo Pro  13:43, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Speedy decline response
excuse me? I've had speedy declines I disagreed with; it comes with the territory. But Donington was pretty clearly wrong, looking at the assertion, books, and inward links (and - hey, I missed that too - an obituary in an academic journal). PS archiving comments that quickly is not ideal, but some people do it; but archiving your own reply so quickly? Odd. Especially in view of the Editor Review; adminship is partly about being right, but a lot about being open-minded and open to feedback. Rd232 talk 13:50, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * My bad i have responded on your talk page. Cheers  Zoo Pro  14:06, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Mark Smith (1970s footballer born 1961)
Hello ZooPro. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Mark Smith (1970s footballer born 1961), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''Played for West Ham United F.C. - easily enough to pass A7 and probably enough to survive an AFD. .''' Thank you. Nancy talk  16:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Rarities (Emilíana Torrini album)
Hello ZooPro. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Rarities (Emilíana Torrini album), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''A7 does not apply to albums. .''' Thank you. Nancy talk  16:05, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Marian Chiţu
Hello ZooPro. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Marian Chiţu, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Nancy talk  16:07, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Sin Sang-woo (ice hockey)
Hello ZooPro. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Sin Sang-woo (ice hockey), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Nancy talk  16:12, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Free Mobile
Hello ZooPro. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Free Mobile, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Nancy talk  16:14, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Senpuu
Hello ZooPro. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Senpuu, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Contains sufficient content to be a stub. Thank you. Nancy talk  16:29, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Okapi to Leopard
Hello, ZooPro. I was wondering why the WikiProject Mammals logo has been changed from the Okapi to the Leopard. Can you please explain? Thank you and regards, Belugaboy535136 (talk) 16:56, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

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Editor review
Hi there. I commented on your editor review yesterday however I have just noticed that you have not transcluded it at Editor review - you should do this ASAP. Best, Nancy  talk  12:49, 11 January 2010 (UTC) ✅

Things I'm doing
I am renovating that userbox for WP:MAMMAL, and am chugging through the WP:ZOO assessments... Drop a line if you need anything! The Arbiter  ★★★  00:59, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Cheers will do i have only just come back from holidays so am catching up on things.  Zoo Pro  03:52, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The Mammals userbox is ✅. What do you think? The Arbiter  ★★★  00:35, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I liked the gold (like i placed in the navbox), maybe a lighter blue?? Okapi looks good but somehow is overshadowed by the blue, let me sleep on it and ill let you know ASAP.  Zoo Pro  04:31, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I changed it up a bit. What do you think now? And as kind of a random thing, what do you think of my signature? Does it look alright? The Arbiter  ★★★  17:34, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I like your signature its always easy to recognise on a page (as i hope mine is) and i have never come across the stars before in a signature. And i like the userbox aswell great job.  Zoo Pro  00:31, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for putting the coordinator userbox on my page...If you saw, I used the wikipedia ads template to link the zoo ad to the WikiProject page. And, how about THIS signature?  The Arbiter  01:19, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Just kidding. :) So, yeah, do you have my talk page watchlisted? Because, I answer your messages there. And, I'll get to work on the bulletin board. The Arbiter  ★★★  01:20, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Bahahahahahahaha that was an awesome signature lol, yes i do stalk/watch your talk page. Yeah great news on the bulletin board, give me the link when u start drafting it in the sandbox (either yours or wikiproject zoos) . Cheers ZooPro  ★★★ 

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Community de-Adminship - finalization poll for the CDA proposal
After tolling up the votes in the revision proposals, it emerged that 5.4 had the most support, but elements of that support remained unclear, and various comments throughout the polls needed consideration.

A finalisation poll (intended, if possible, to be one last poll before finalising the CDA proposal) has been run to;


 * gather opinion on the 'consensus margin' (what percentages, if any, have the most support) and


 * ascertain whether there is support for a 'two-phase' poll at the eventual RfC (not far off now), where CDA will finally be put to the community. Matt Lewis (talk) 02:06, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Bulletin Board?
Hey, I was just thinking that we might like to have a bulletin board for WP:ZOO and WP:MAMMAL. That way, members can watchlist it, and we can make announcements. The Arbiter  ★★★  17:58, 18 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Sounds like a fantastic idea, i did some months ago think of having a message bot that delivered a monthly/weekly update but the bulletin board sounds more workable.  Zoo Pro  00:28, 19 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Do you know much about bot development? Anyway, I'll go ahead with the bulletin board. I was also thinking, don't we also need a message template, to send to people in the project? The Arbiter  ★★★  16:32, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I know nothing about bot development so i agree 100% with you bulletin board idea, ill leave it all in your very capable hands and if you want anything done let me know.  Zoo Pro  21:50, 19 January 2010 (UTC)


 * WP:ZOO's board is here, and WP:MAMMAL's is here. If you think it's okay, we just need to put a link to the Bulletin Board on the main pages and the navigation boxes on the side. Also, we need to send a notice to the project members to have them watchlist the boards. The Arbiter  ★★★  01:23, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Good Job! I have watchlisted both. Though I don't list myself on the Mammals project, I will lurk for a while.Donlammers (talk) 02:26, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

As a side note, who vandalized our pages? I saw my history, and then saw that you posted on that guy's page. The Arbiter  ★★★  01:02, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Awesome Top Job looks fantastic. On the part of who vandalized our pages no idea some random IP, ZooFari reverted my page before i even knew about it so i was like wow.  Zoo Pro  02:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Well...I just had the shock of my life. I forgot to log in when editing, and when i looked at the history, I suddenly realized that the IP looked familiar. The IP that vandalized our pages...it was my IP address! I allowed my cousin to use my laptop...He knows my Wikipedia account. From what I can tell, he vandalized my page and everyone who posted on my talk page's pages too. That's why yours, Belugaboy's, and one of my adoptees' talk pages got vandalized. Sigh...I'm going to ask for an indef block on the IP. The Arbiter  ★★★  02:23, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Picture Uploads
Hello, ZooPro. I was just wondering if you could give me an example of what a "Picture Upload Form" would look like filled out. If you could answer ASAP, I would be much grateful. Regards-- Belugaboy535136 talk 13:34, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * What sort of picture are you looking to upload? as there is a number of different "forms" for different images. Cheers  Zoo Pro  21:51, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I was trying to upload a photo of Kayavak, the Beluga whale at the Shedd Aquarium in Chicago. I've got the picture saved, and I got it from a refrence: Encyclopedia Britticanna: Advoacy for Animals. -- Belugaboy535136 talk 13:12, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I do not want to deminish your hopes and effort however i must remind you that individual animals on there own are not notable and therefore do not require an article for themselves. I would encourage you to discover a Beluga that is notable and newsworthy and attempt to expand or create that article however at this stage i would not consider Kayavak to be notable enough for wikipedia.  Zoo Pro  21:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Kayavak was almost deleted although her notability did shine through in the end. You see, she is the only orphaned beluga in the world, and she survived, so generally, she is notable. Sorry for the confusion. Muchas gracias, Belugaboy535136  talk 20:51, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

User:Domestic Cat
Quite a surprise to me, as well. —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 16:47, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes im just annoyed that we lost another member from the projects.  Zoo Pro  21:53, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, actually, I was looking at my watchlist when he got blocked... I was like woah... But yeah, I'm kinda irked that another member of Wikiproject Cats has been lost.  Bramble  claw  x   21:54, 19 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually shocking was the unmasking of as a sock. I thought he was going to be an admin for sure! —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 22:58, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

My editor review
Hey! Thanks for the refreshing comments on my editor review. I appreciate the trust. If you need anything, drop me a line D u s t i SPEAK!! 00:07, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries mate was a pleasure.  Zoo Pro  01:17, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Things to be done
I'll keep assessing the Zoo articles...at the same time, could you send a notice to each WP:MAMMAL member and WP:ZOO member to alert them of the new bulletin board? Thanks! The Arbiter  ★★★  02:35, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Will do.  Zoo Pro  02:53, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * One thing you could put on the Zoo bulletin board is an invite to the collaboration project. The Arbiter  ★★★  03:07, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Check my talk page in about 3 mins for the draft and give me feedback and correct any issues.  Zoo Pro  03:09, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Looks fine now...hahaha. We need one for mammals, too. I'll deliver the message to the Zoo participants. Is there any way to see who has watchlisted a certain page? The Arbiter  ★★★  16:24, 23 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I've moved it to here. I'll notify members... The Arbiter  ★★★  16:31, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Zoo Important Notice
Hehe. The Arbiter  ★★★  16:40, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks ZooPro and The Arbiter for the Notice hahaha.  Zoo Pro  23:25, 23 January 2010 (UTC)


 * We'll need one for mammals, too. The Arbiter  ★★★  02:24, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I've put the mammals one here. Could you notify the members? The Arbiter  ★★★  02:48, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅  Zoo Pro  06:20, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Bulletin Board...
I have made the first announcement to the Zoo one! The Arbiter  ★★★  02:45, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe i should take our advice and add the page to my watchlist.  Zoo Pro  02:51, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Great about time we get on top of that.  Zoo Pro  02:51, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Now we’ll see what level of involvement other members will help with…we still need a way to recruit more members. The Arbiter  ★★★  03:08, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Peter Foster
Yes, I put in a semi-protect request that has just gone through. In hindsight I should have done that the first time we caught the IPs fabricating 'cites'... I'll be interested to see what they come up with next. --GenericBob (talk) 13:30, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Zoo Project Elections
I followed instructions, but the format used doesn't seem to allow for comments to wrap. I'm still newbie enough not to understand why you didn't use a standard list here. Or is this just trying to tell me that I'm too verbose?Donlammers (talk) 13:57, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed was just a minor spacing issue something i didnt forsee.  Zoo Pro  21:45, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Just out of curiosity, are there any concerns you have about any of my actions as a co-coordinator? If there ever are any, please please please tell me. I hope you have noticed that I don't really ever get angry. :) Anything you need to tell me will be taken well, and is important to me. The Arbiter  ★★★  01:13, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Bahahaha na if i had any concerns i would let you know dont worry, id make it known loud and clear. I just felt it was time we made sure other editors were happy with our performance, we are after all the contact points for the project. Keeps everying above board and ensures that everyone gets a say on how things are "run".  Zoo Pro  02:39, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hehe ok. I am afraid, however, that maybe no one (besides, you, me, and Donlammers) works on WP:ZOO anymore. I don't get why some obscure WikiProjects get a lot of members, but we only get a handful. These are ZOOS! A major part of every big city. I just don't get why we don't have a ton of members... The Arbiter  ★★★  02:44, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

We need a mass advertising campaign, i have been thinking for some to write something into the Talk Page template asking members to join, i may get onto this sooner rather then later.  Zoo Pro  02:46, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you mind running together? For the coordinator position, i mean. Donlammers nominated us together...I like it that way, how about you? The Arbiter  ★★★  02:51, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Does not bother me one little bit, i very much enjoy working with you.  Zoo Pro  02:53, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

The only thing that bothers me about your leadership is that you need to learn to spell. The evil laugh is spelled with a "w", as in "Bwahahahahahaha!" ;-) Donlammers (talk) 03:00, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Noted :)  Zoo Pro  05:14, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Reply
You're welcome, also did Insects. And brilliant idea :-) -- Zoo Fari  04:38, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Cheers for that, Great work on the Primates Portal also.  Zoo Pro  04:40, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Here is a barnstar for you: Thanks ZooFari, means alot.  Zoo Pro  05:09, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Is ZooFari interested in joining WP:ZOO? From his username, I thought he just might be interested. :) The Arbiter  ★★★  01:55, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Active project?
What is the purpose of the Project activity? i.e. what happens if I decalare a project not active? What is the conditions of a project beeing active? WP:SHARKS is not very organised and there are very few members that are activly updated pages, but the talk page is a good place for people to ask questions and generally discuss topics and the assessment is useful at least for me. I use it to find pages to update when I actually have time (which is not often lately). Is there a discussion about this? I could not find it? --Stefan talk 05:41, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

The purpose of the activity status is not only to update the WikiProject database but to also assist editors in there location of active Animal related projects to join.

Although opinions differ, a WikiProject is likely to be considered inactive if any of the following conditions are met:


 * A completely empty list of participants.
 * A list of participants that has not grown beyond the initial 1 (or 2 or 3) founders in many months, unless clearly constructive work is being done despite the tiny membership (and in such a case, a merger with a cognizable "parent" project is strongly recommended).
 * No changes to the WikiProject's pages (including any associated talk pages) for at least 3 months. Bot link/typo corrections and other similar minor activity are not counted as "changes".
 * There is no or very little evidence that the project is doing signficant work in the area for which it was established, the point above notwithstanding. It is notable by way of analogy that the Wikipedia Administrators' noticeboard and Miscellany for deletion generally interpret a user's pattern of doing nothing but fiddling with their own user page for a long period of time as evidence that the user will not be a constructive editor, resulting in the user page being deleted. A WikiProject that does nothing but work on itself for months is evidence of a similar pattern of thumb-twiddling.

If even a single editor is working on WikiProject sharks then it would be considered an active or semi active Project.

There is no discussion about the activity status of Projects this is merely an "administrative" action to determine the status of each project under WikiProject Animals and assess its viability into the future. If it is found that a number of projects are inactive then it will go to a discussion of possible merge's between projects in order to pool resources and members. Hope this helps.  Zoo Pro  07:40, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * For your info i have marked the shark project as active, looking at the talk page as there has been recent discussions this would be considered as an Active Project.  Zoo Pro  07:50, 27 January 2010 (UTC)


 * ZooPro: I left a message for you about this over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fishes. Note that my message there partly is meant to be humoristic.
 * But really, was this discussed anywhere before you went around templating a lot of projects? And what does the other columns over at WikiProject Animals/Directory mean? You should add some explanation on that page telling what it is and what the columns mean and under what criteria each column should get which status.
 * --David Göthberg (talk) 14:09, 27 January 2010 (UTC)


 * This is a simple administrative action that has no need or usage to be discussed, If in fact the project was active then it would be assumed someone would within a week notice the "notice" and change the status, Only projects that fall under WikiProject Animals have been tagged with this notice (some 20 odd).
 * The Directory listing is a direct copy of the main listing at WikiProject Councils WP:PROJDIR/S, this information needs to be udated at least every year and has not been done so for some time.
 * It is not a new system and has infact been here for aslong as the WikiProject Council. Each wikiproject has departments within that project such as assessment, if the projects does have an assessment or collaberation department it is stated on the list for easy location by editors sadly though as each WikiProject changes members this information is lost and people are unaware of the existance of certian aspects of the WIkiProjects for more information on the indivudual columns go to here, this is an attempt of sorts to ensure we have the most up to date information avaliable to everyone. There is a notice on the WikiProject Council talk page in regards to this action and if anyone wants to start a discussion about it (not that i forsee any real need for a discussion) then we shall deal with it there. I am struggling to understand what some editors are having a problem with. This action has been done many times before and only benifits the project.  Zoo Pro  22:08, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation, suggest you put it on the page or at least the talk page. --Stefan talk 01:06, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thanks  Zoo Pro  01:47, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Updating ineffective
Hi,

Updating WikiProject Lepidoptera's status for active = yes oin wikitext still shows the WikiProkect as inactive on display. Why is this so?

AshLin (talk) 07:14, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

minor issue it seems the template doesnt like capital letters.  Zoo Pro  07:42, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Careful...
Hey, just wanted to remind you, stay calm...no use in getting angry at combative Wikipedians. I don't really think anyone can convince David he's wrong. Cheers, and be careful. :) The Arbiter  ★★★  02:48, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah i know im gunna walk away from my computer now. Take a walk around in the zoo and come back later. Zoo Pro  02:53, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You live in a zoo?!?!?! The Arbiter  ★★★  02:53, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Honor Roll
Congratulations! YOU have been selected for Belugaboy535136's Honor Roll! Please sign your signature next to your name. Please erase the timestamp. Congratulations again, Belugaboy535136  contribs 03:55, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, um how very creative  Zoo Pro  04:17, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Just a further point, if you want your signature to just appear without a timestamp, use three instead of four. Zoo Pro  04:47, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok. It was a tough decision to see who would get 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.  Belugaboy535136  contribs 12:30, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries. Zoo Pro 12:48, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Just so you know, for most of the late morning and afternoon I will be gone (Shedd Aquarium to see the new baby beluga, woo hoo!!), so I will not be much active during approx. 10 AM CST-5 PM CST. I don't know what time that is down in Oz. Regards, Belugaboy535136  contribs 12:55, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Well its currently 11:55pm Zoo Pro 12:56, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Nice new signature, but it is somewhat unreadable (forgive me if it's just me, I have very strong glasses). Can you change back to Comic Sans (even though I hate the font)?? It would be easier on my eyes. Regards, Belugaboy535136  contribs 22:50, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm a little worried...
You know, the fact that we have had only 3 votes on the selection page means to me that... People on WP:ZOO must not be active, since they didn't see the notice...which means that they didn't watchlist the bulletin board...which means they may not have seen the notice. What should we do? The Arbiter  ★★★  18:02, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it worries me, too. WP Zoo is one of the more 49% idle and 51% active projects. As you stated, these are ZOOS!! Belugaboy535136  contribs 22:52, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry...what? Never mind, I get it now. :) The Arbiter  ★★★  22:59, 31 January 2010 (UTC)