User talk:Zoroastryan

@Bbb23 it seems you are following me closely which seems like a conflict to me but learn what? No one is exactly providing an explanation besides quick rule quotes. I’m trying to fix the appeal each time to fit for those and give my explanation. It seems you had something on your mind so tell me. Why do I deserve an indefinite block for my first offence?

April 2023
Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to All your base are belong to us, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. ''It's been reverted several times now. Please understand that a mention in Futurama isn't notable to mention without proper independent coverage'' soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 05:44, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Thank you. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 06:57, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

April 2023
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because it appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Bbb23 (talk) 16:30, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi Zoroastryan, I started a discussion because you were edit warring. You were rather uncivil to me, but I let it slide. With your reply I find it hard to believe you've been here for over a decade when you think an aggressive attitude like that is welcome here somehow.

A transcription is not original research. But you didn't transcribed anything, and it's rather strange you think that you noticing a quote in a TV series and looking up a clip as a reference would be considered transcribing something - that exactly is original research because the Futurama bit is a clear WP:PRIMARY source. See No. 4: "Do not analyze, evaluate, interpret, or synthesize material found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable secondary sources that do so." You know of the meme, you noticed the quote in Futurama and you found a clip of the bit. We need reliable coverage by sources independent of the subject - not you, Futurama and YouTube.

Good luck with the unblock. If it succeeds, hopefully you'll start editing constructively. Thanks, and have a good weekend. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 17:41, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Ok at this point I’m confused with Yamla’s comments. As far as I can see I haven’t broken any rules for edit-warring and therefore can not be banned for it. I made an initial edit that was removed by another used for not being referenced. I added the reference and thereafter the despite with Soetermans’ was about if the edit was appropriate. I made 3 changes and no more. Bbb32 even mentioned I have not violated 3RR. My understanding is that I was banned for my comment towards Bbb32 which was a misunderstanding and a little too punitive in my opinion. “Not the response I was looking for. I've blocked the user for WP:NOTHERE.” I understand his response to a certain extent but like I said it was a misunderstanding and I apologize.

I was not given an opportunity to reply to the edit-warring report and like I said my logic stands on its own merits. I believe the edits should remain up and I am asking for an opportunity to make my case. Zoroastryan (talk) 17:47, 22 April 2023 (UTC)


 * The Futurama episode is a primary source but what I did was not an analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis. It’s rather strange that you’re attempting to manipulate what is a transcription (which is not original research) to fit into a self-manufactured mold because you dislike its addition on the article page. That is not your decision to make, the edit belongs on the page on its own merits. Zoroastryan (talk) 17:58, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * ...no, it doesn't, I just pointed out how your edit is in fact original research, but you WP:DIDNTHEARTHAT? I didn't "manipulate" anything, you are misreading a guideline. blocked you because you are WP:NOTHERE to help build Wikipedia. I'm starting to think they're right.  soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 18:02, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * My issue with your attitude is the fact that you believe you speak for wikipedia itself. I mean you linked to WP:DIDNTHEARTHAT as if you are the consensus of the community. You behaved in a similar fashion on yours and my talk pages. You have a viewpoint and I have mine. What is reasonable is debating it to an impartial party and accepting their decision. Perfectly happy to do that, but what isn’t is acting like you can make an impartial judgement yourself which is what you’re doing. Bbb32 banned me for a rude comment which is reasonable. However, you are absolutely behaving in bad faith as well. Zoroastryan (talk) 18:08, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Now you're trying to make this about me. You are not here to help Wikipedia. I won't reply any further. Have a great weekend. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 18:42, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * You’re making it about me. You’re saying I’m rude, at least I’m not disingenuous. “Have a good weekend.” Yeah right Zoroastryan (talk) 19:36, 22 April 2023 (UTC)


 * I have now twice reverted your unblock requests. You are not permitted to have more than one unblock request at a time. If you add another, I will revoke Talk page access.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:22, 30 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Oh I didn’t know that, obviously you are harassing me and I didn’t realize. I just checked the edit history and your behaviour is inappropriate from top to bottom. It seems ever since you inappropriately placed an indefinite block on my account you have been stalking my talk page, making multiple edits to it. Now you’re threatening me further… fine, I’ve removed the original request and re-added it below since it seems you have a hand in the previous one being ignored given your behaviour. As per your message there is only one unblock request on my account.


 * Note. If an admin reviews the above unblock request, please also note the comments just above it.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:03, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes that would be appreciated, thanks. I don’t think Bbb23 is behaving appropriately.