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Disturbed genre
Hello. I've reverted your edits to Disturbed, since discussion about the genre has already took place, and any changes to the article regarding this topic should be argued and reference before any changes are made. I just wanted to let you know, and invite you to join, or more reopen, the existing discussion. - -  ' twsx 'talk'cont'  00:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Disturbed? Metal? Hah! Vegetaman 05:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Help!!!

 * What do you need help with? You can answer by editing this page; you might also want to check the Frequently Asked Questions to see if your problem is solved there. --ais523 18:09, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, i got a problem, i helped to develop a page on Mallcore. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallcore). But everyday, different people with no talk page come and erase stuff that are useful (trivia, pictures, etc...) and do not post anything on the talk page. When a member actually had a talk page, I sent him/her a message. However there was no reply... I do not know how to put the vandalism thing, but i do not know if there is another way of solving the problem...

My other problem is that I have somewhat of an argument with an editor over the Disturbed page. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disturbed). There is definite disagreement about the band's musical genre. However the article states that the band is Heavy Metal (which i, as well as many people throughout the word, disagree). I wrote a statement that informed the reader of the disagreement (you can check the history and the discussion page of the article). However, twice (or three times, can't remember) this statement was erased and a very stubborn editor argumented that what i was saying was wrong and that what i wrote degraded the band's reputation. I then put a tag for factual accuracy and a tag for neutrality. It was erased by the same stubborn member, and i re put the tags and stated my reasons on the discussion page. However i still think that this member is going to erase them... could you help me?

Thank you in advance,

Zouavman Le Zouave 18:20, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 * There's a list of possibilities that you can try in Dispute resolution. If an article's coming under attack from new users and anons you could also try Requests for page protection. If you have any further questions put back up; I have to go now but it's likely a different user will show up to answer the question. --ais523 18:24, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! Zouavman Le Zouave 18:31, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

RE: Help!!!
Hello, this is the "stubborn member". I think the problem is divided into 2 things:
 * 1: What is the genre?
 * 2: Should the disagreement amongst fans and haters be mentioned?

About problem one. This question has been discussed on the talkpage. Arguments were exchanged, and references were added, giving sources from people who know more about metal music than either of us.

Two, should it be mentioned? No, why? There are dozens, or hundreds of bands where people do not agree about the genre. So how is it solved? People discuss it, mention sources, and change the article into whatever came up from that discussion. A bands article is supposed to give the closest information possible. If there is a very common point of view saying there are critics or a disagreement, it is fair to say so in the article. This is not the case in this article.

Also I would like to remind any authority reading this to have a look at mister Zouavman Le Zouaves contribution history, it clearly shows that he or she is more on a personal crusade enforcing his opinion rather than making articles better. For me, he or she shall absolutely make Mallcore or Music that i hate or I hate that band Disturbed and at such articles write as many things about Disturbed as he or she wants, but definitely not in reverse. I hope this will make things more clear. Stop filling the article with malicious defamations or adding tags (no matter if anonymous or logged in), that is all that i care about. What is now written in the article is based on what people think who are superior to you, me, or an admin, such as the Rolling Stone Magazine (arguably) and Ozzy Osbourne (inarguably).

PS: As you can see above on this discussion page, i did try to talk to you. - -  ' twsx 'talk'cont'  19:44, 30 October 2006 (UTC) PPS: If you are avaiable on a messenger such as MSN or GTalk, or on IRC, I am absolutely willing to talk to you there. - -  ' twsx 'talk'cont'  19:48, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

There is a very common point of view saying that Disturbed musical genre is not metal, but sources vary saying that it is either: "pseudo-metal", "pseudo-rock", "crap", "mallcore", and others... In an encyclopedia I think that Mallcore is the most appropriate term. I am not changing the genre, i am just stating the point of view of many people. The reason that they do not come on this page is that they probably got better to do than deal with the reputation of bands that they do not consider metal. If you want sources, i can find some.

And how do you dare make assumptions about my intentions on Wikipedia judging from my contribution history? I do not hate "that band Disturbed". I actually think their music has certain qualities which makes them popular for a good reason. I do listen to "10,000 Fists in the Air" and quite appreciated it. However, I would not consider them Heavy Metal. Please note that I did not take any party on the statement made on the Disturbed article. I only stated the disagreement. On the other hand, you are a known Disturbed fan and you have reasons for considering any criticism to them "malicious defamations". Now I did not deny the fact that Ozzy considered them "Heavy Metal", but I stated that many people (who probably know more about metal than either of us) also do not consider them Heavy Metal (or Hard Rock by that same occasion).

Again, i do not appreciate the way you say "Mister Zouavman Le Zouave" or declare that i am on a "personal crusade to enforce my opinion". Nothing permits you to do so. And you shall not tell me what articles i shall or may create/edit. Nothing forbids me to edit the Wikipedia Articles unless what i am doing is destructive, which is definitely not the case.

Zouavman Le Zouave 20:16, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, are you planning on answering the messages on my talk page? I left you my email like this its easier for both of us. --Zouavman Le Zouave 07:38, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I can't remember to have been asked a question that i need to reply to. I think i made myself and my point clear throughout this and the articles discussion. Added you on MSN by the way. - -  ' twsx 'talk'cont'  15:47, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Mallcore
I removed it because it is not an "Emo themed" store. Emo is a genre of music that has been pretty much dead for the past 10 years. --Inhumer 01:13, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Then please show me proof that that the store is "Emo Themed". The bands you think are Emo, which I assume are bands like My Chemical Romance,Fall Out Boy, and Hawthorne Height are Pop Rock. They have nothing to do with the Emotive Hardcore Punk scene that started back in the early 1980s.--Inhumer 00:40, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Well,I believe that for those bands "Emo" is more of a marketing term rather than an actual genre name. --Inhumer 09:14, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Disturbed reference
Hey there. I just seen the two edits of User:PhantomOTO adding the tag and you removing it. Alltho this certainly was the correct move, i was wondering if you could find a suitable external reference for this sentence. By suitable, i mean something that is not bogus and insulting (which is why i didn't want mallcore named in there in the first place) but something that states this fact from a neutral point of view. Quite frankly, i am too lazy to dig thru all the sources you provided in the discussion before we settled this, but i just thought maybe you have something useful right at hand without too much work. If not, or if you are as lazy as i am, then just leave it, it's not THAT important. :D - -  ' twsx 'talk'cont'  00:39, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Disturbed
What happened? I thought we were going to work for a consensus, but you either haven't checked the page, or refuse to acknowledge my last statement. I think I've proposed a perfectly reasonable edit. PhantomOTO 17:49, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Aarni
Great work on the Aarni article. I had it on my to-do list, but I'm glad you got there first as mine would've been a lot shorter. Prolog 23:51, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know much about Aarni, so I was surprised how much info you had found. I can't e-mail you because This user has not specified a valid e-mail address, or has chosen not to receive e-mail from other users. Prolog 00:06, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Profile
Hello, you used the helpme tag. How may I help you? When you've asked your question, please put the tag back so we know to check back. Alternatively, you can join the Wikipedia Bootcamp IRC channel to get real-time help. (Use the web-based client to get instant access.) -Royalguard11 (Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 18:09, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I was going through certain users' profiles, and I found that they had some sorts of templates used to display information about themselves (like there level of a certain language, etc...). I would like to know how this is possible. I looked through the FAQ for a long time, but i could not find it.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Z.L.Z.


 * I believe your looking for Userboxes. -Royalguard11 (Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 18:14, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks thats exactly what i needed!

Zouavman Le Zouave 18:15, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Metal
Hello, to become a member of the project, just go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Metal and add your name to the bottom of the list. It's as simple as that. Just keep checking back on the page to see what needs to be done.

And don't worry about the layout of your page. Mine is a much bigger mess, due to the irregular formation of the userboxes! :) By the way, I made a small grammatical edit to your userpage. Hope that's ok! In Flames 19:39, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! I hate all this rubbish nu-metal/metalcore as well. Some time ago, on the List of Heavy Metal genres page, I kept moving the nu-metal and metalcore sections to the "related" part of the article, to show they are related to metal (yeah right!), but not real metal. Unfortunately someone kept reverting my edits so I gave up.

The sources I can think of are websites like http://www.metalreview.com where lots of people bash nu-metal/metalcore CD's, and the http://www.DarkLyrics.com forum, where people insult bands like Avenged Sevenfold etc. Unfortunately, I don't think this validates - as Wikipedia demands proper sources, like reviews from Professional critics. Another source would be http://www.metal-archives.com, where the website doesn't accept terrible "mallcore" bands.

I don't see how bands like KoRn and Slipknot are considered metal, when they don't play solos, have simple song structures, scream incessantly, have hip-hop influences in it (!) and rap as part of vocals. Bah. In Flames 22:21, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

"The last part of the introduction of the Disturbed article really disturbs me" - nice pun :) The genre of Avenged Sevenfold is annoying as well. By the way, what do you consider "mallcore"? I never use the term myself, but I assume you mean Nu-metal and Metalcore - generic MTV metal. However, do you like other types of rock?

Marilyn Manson - extreme black metal?! Not only is the word "extreme" redundant (as black metal IS an extreme genre anyway), but I find it hard to call Cradle of Filth black metal, let alone EXTREME black metal, let alone call Marilyn Manson metal. I think we could try and find other Wikipedians who would be willing to tweak the genres of some bands, but the majority will probably demand sources anyway.

Can your gmail address be used with MSN messenger?

Oh, by the way I am a teenager. So not all of us love nu-metal/metalcore :) In Flames 00:27, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Blocking IP
I am on a computer in a school where all computers apparently use the same internet line... Someone on another computer has been blocked (vandalism), and for some reason I am blocked too... I am asking for a way to "unblock" my account. Thanks in advance... --Zouavman Le Zouave 10:17, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * When you try to edit, you should see something that looks an awful lot like this -- when you do, please make use of the template that's mentioned somewhere around halfway down, in the "autoblocked?" section. See WP:AUTOBLOCK for more information. Luna Santin 11:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Article names
Hello again! Thanks for putting a note about Nihil (Impaled Nazarene album on WP:HMM. You can rename pages yourself by clicking "move", writing down the new title and reason for renaming. I've fixed this one now. Prolog 13:26, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Boo
Hello, just thought I'd comment on how nicely your user page has developed! (Ok, yes I'm procrastinating, but so what?!) In Flames 23:10, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:Aqmefrenchband.jpg
An image that you uploaded or altered, Image:Aqmefrenchband.jpg, has been listed at Possibly unfree images because its copyright status is disputed. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. Please go to its page for more information if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Nv8200p talk 00:22, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Hiya there
Hi ZlZ. I've just seen you editing Casablanca recently and as i've never seen you before over here i came to your userpage. I m very pleased to see someone hailing from Casablanca over here. So welcome to wikipedia and if you need any help please do not hesitate to contact me as i am an admin.

By the way, i see that you are a profesional musician and again i am pleased to get to know a musician over here. Myself i am part of an amateur rock/haiha band in Casablanca named "CikatriZ". Maybe we can play together a song someday! Keep in touch. -- Szvest   Wiki me up ®  11:09, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Cool beans Romain. There are only a few wikipedians in Morocco. I've only met one a couple of months ago. Well, we do play a bit of aggressive/hard stuff (kindav haiha) and we got around a dozen of songs out there. In parallel, we do some of Jimmy Hendrix, Nirvana, U2, Pink Floyd... We do play in friends parties from time to time. We are looking for a drummer/percussionist as well. I am pretty sure CikatriZ got something in common w/ Bassilik. Btw, i m still learning how to play but i do the band management. I've sent you an email w/ my contact number and my email. Talk to ya later. -- Szvest  [[Image:Wikiquote-logo.svg|10px]] Wiki me up ®  17:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I see that CikatriZ and Bassilik have some points in common ^^. We have a really good drummer, but we hardly got any time to practice, so I doubt he will have time to work with two separate bands. But I'm sure we can find a way to play together. What instrument(s) do you play? As you may have already read in my profile, I'm the guitarist and singer of Bassilik, although I'm a very bad singer (not that I'm a good guitarist either)... I'm pretty influenced by Nirvana's songs, although I would sometimes wish we had more band members in order to do more complex music. Have you heard of Fantômas? They're a really good band (in my opinion, at least). If you guys are planning any concerts this winter, we would be glad to play a little song or two for the occasion ^^ --Zouavman Le Zouave 21:14, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I do learn guitar, nothing special ;) I've heard about Fantômas but i don't remember i listened to them someday but i'll do it. Well, we plan to play at the Boulevard this coming spring. We have a Moroccan vocalist (mostly blues and gnawa) plus one Spanish (female), a Moroccan guitarist and another Argentinian (part-timer), a bassist (part-timer as well) but no drummer. We know another Latin American band over here but we never had a chance to play together but will do soon as they are in France now. Of course, we can work together on a few songs. Just ring me (you got my number and my email) whenever you can so we'd arrange for that, at least for fun. By the way, do not hesitate to contact me for any wikipedia issue if you need help. -- <font size="2px" face="Verdana"><font color="DarkSlateBlue">Szvest  [[Image:Wikiquote-logo.svg|10px]] <font style="background: orange">Wiki me up ®  10:03, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Please do not contribute to edit wars in the Fred Durst article
We've had far too many edit wars already over the classification of bands. I'm not going to stand for another one. Whether or not Slipknot is metal, it's close enough for most average readers, even if metal fans disagree. Leave it be. - Stick Fig 22:35, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Aarnilogo.jpg)
Thanks for uploading Image:Aarnilogo.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image is unlicensed for use on Wikipedia and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. semper fi — Moe  22:49, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia Week
The best existing proposal I can, in my own limited way, think of for the previously discussed "appreciation week" can now be found at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week. Any comments or responses would be more than welcome. Badbilltucker 14:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Reach Out
Hi, Zouavman. I saw your inquiry on the Wikipedia:Reach Out page. The program is indeed a place where users can go and leave a message informing everyone that they're stressed, and why. Then other users may see the message and go and offer the stressed user support and encouragement. It's a wonderful program centered around the concept of WikiLove. Happy editing! --  P.B. Pilhet  /  Talk   19:09, 6 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Any time, man! --  P.B. Pilhet  /  Talk   22:54, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

No Doubt
Hi there. I just wanted to let you know that I've reverted your edit to the No Doubt article since Template:Infobox musical artist recommends comma-separated lists. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to leave them at my talk page. —ShadowHalo 02:29, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Your page
Hi, you might consider adding a tag at the top of your user page that clarifies that it is a user page and not an article. Also, what's with the "new message" template at the top of the talk page? It's misleading and there is no comment anywhere that indicates it's a joke...-- Dmz5 *Edits**Talk* 03:59, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome
Hi Zouavman Le Zouave, thanks for welcoming me to Wikipedia. I wasn't sure whether it's customary to reply on my own talk page, or here...but anyway, here I am.

I've just finished wikifying Linux_color_management; lemme know if there's anything obvious that I've missed.

Cheers —Xhantar Talk 04:11, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Fair-use images removed from your user page
Hello, Zouavman Le Zouave. I've removed some images from your user page, as they are copyrighted, unlicensed images that are being used on Wikipedia under claims of fair use. Unfortunately, by Wikipedia policies, no fair-use images can be used on user pages; please see the ninth item of the Wikipedia fair-use policy and Removal of fair use images. These images have not been deleted from any articles. If you have any questions, please let me know. —Bkell (talk) 19:31, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Image:KyoBand.jpg
You tagged this image with a album cover copyright. However, it isn't an album cover. Please find and use a more appropriate copyright tag. Without one, this image will be removed. Rklawton 17:57, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * It's a photo. It's certainly not a logo.  If you got it from a website, it's probably copyrighted, so you'll also need to explain on the image page how it qualifies for fair use.  Rklawton 19:53, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * No worries. This should help:  Image copyright tags.  Rklawton 20:29, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Rock music invitation
Hello WikiProject Alternative music member. WikiProject Alternative music, in my eyes, has proved to be successful "improving the encyclopaedic coverage of articles relating to alternative rock", and improving their quality as well. One specific example I have witnessed is The Smashing Pumpkins article. The page has gone from a mediocre work, to GA status, to FA nomination. Only appropriate, as the Pumpkins are undeniably one of the most influential alternative rock bands on the 1990's and beyond. This is the stuff I wish to achieve with the somewhat recently ressurected WikiProject Rock music. I hope to also attract attention to rock music articles of all sorts, and hopefully change some to GA or FA status. I invite you to come join us, and not only be a member of alternative Wikipedians, but the rockin' ones as well. Rock on. --<font color="#000000"> Reaper <font color="#ff0000"> X  03:17, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Shock Sites
I saw your comment about the Shock Site page needing to be expanded but no one is able to. Every bit of information that is added is repeatedly deleted by the same administrator over and over again. He originally voted to have the entire page deleted. Shock Sites like Meatspin need your help. Please sign this Requests_for_comment/Mangojuice Ciper 16:52, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Reply

 * The copyright violation haven't been "disproved" on the talk page at all. Read the follow up.
 * It still fails the rest of the policies stated on the talk as per External links. And by the rest of the policies... the ones you said on the talk are just about correct.
 * EM is non-neutral.
 * EM gives factually inaccurate information.
 * Ours18 (and a couple of other EM members/spammers) puts the links to promote the website because he is a member of it and thus a "conflict of interest".
 * EM violates copyright laws by reproducing (stealing) images without A) permission B) crediting the owner of specific images by name and/or company. Which violates fair use.

As I said.. read the policy. Wikipedia sometimes allows promotional images, but specific things have to be adheered to before this can be allowed A) the owners of the image and or the company of each has to be stated (so people are able to review whether the image is viable for use) B) full rationales have to be added, C) source of where it was found, etc, etc...
 * Spamming websites users are a member of off Wikipedia, is still spamming and is a violation of "conflict of interest"; read WP:EL and learn the policy . - Deathrocker 20:37, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

What are you talking about? I replied to you the other day... you really need to learn the policy stated in External links.


 * "For the conflict of interest, it might be the case for Ours18, but it is certainly not for me or Inhumer."

Hahahaha. Is this a joke? EMers adding the link violative website they are members of to an article which gets a lot of traffic isn't "spamming"?... again you are completely ignoring the policy to suit yourself. - Deathrocker 20:59, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * If it is a band's official website, then it could likely be used because it is official, understand? Anyway, your comparision doesn't make sense, as EM isn't an "official" website of the genre heavy metal.


 * I have doubts that you've read the policy, otherwise you wouldn't be spouting all this rubbish on my talkpage asking me to repeat myself over and over. I cited the policies it violates a couple of days ago on the talk... an a couple of minutes ago on your talkpage and ushered you towards WP:EL if you can't be bothered to click that little link, then that is your problem.


 * Props for making me laugh though, with the whole "all members of Encyclopaedia Metallum should be blocked from Wikipedia" comment. I have a problem with links that are SPAM and VIOLATE OFFICIAL WIKIPEDIA POLICY... read those words over a couple of times so it sinks in before acusing me of any more nonsense. Thanks. - Deathrocker 21:22, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd hate to say this, but Encyclopaedia Metallum isn't classed as a reliable source since users submit the info to the site. If I tried getting an article to FA with any EM links, it'd be shot to shreds. Sorry. LuciferMorgan 09:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Warning about your userpage and subpages
Hello Zouavman Le Zouave, I came across your userpage and noticed that you had a lot of stuff there that shouldn't be there. You have too many subpages that contain either irrelevant information, attacks against other people or groups of people, redirects to other supbpages, or information which is already in your main userpage or could be merged into your main userpage. See What can I not have on my user page for further information.

More specifically heres a list of things that are wrong with your userpage:
 * This subpage you created: User:Zouavman_Le_Zouave/Deranged is a direct attack against a group of people and serves no other purpose.
 * This subpage you created: User:Zouavman_Le_Zouave/User_Metal only contains one userbox which could be included in your main userpage.
 * This subpage you created: User:Zouavman_Le_Zouave/Stuff is essentially a repetion of what is already found on your main userpage, also this subpage contains this image: Image:Disturbed99.jpg which is being used in Wikipedia under fair use (images used under fair use cannot be used in userpages or subpages), furthermore, this subpage resembles the Deranged subpage used to directly attack a group of people.
 * This subpage you created: User:Zouavman_Le_Zouave/Book_of_the_Zouaves contains one sentence about irrelavant topic, this subpage apparently contained material which you didn't want others to edit or view outside of Wikipedia.
 * This subpage you created: User:Zouavman_Le_Zouave/Zouavism redirects to another subpage you created, it serves no useful purpose.

All the above subpages I listed should be deleted, if you don't think so, read What can I not have on my user page.

To delete all the subpages I listed in violation of Wikipedia policy and guidelines add: db-userreq to the top of the subpages that need to be deleted.

Generally, you should avoid substantial content on your user page that is unrelated to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a general hosting service, so your user page is not a personal homepage. Your page is about you as a Wikipedian.

Please delete the problem subpages I listed above and thanks in advance for your cooperation. --Leon Sword 04:00, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a strict policy against personal attacks. Attack pages and images are not tolerated by Wikipedia and are speedily deleted. Users who continue to create or repost such pages and images will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Thank you. Calton | Talk 04:49, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

You have new messages (last change).
I just wanted to let you know that this fake banner is annoying. I thought I had new messages, and I don't. While this may seem really funny, it has been done for to long by to many people, and is really just a waste of time. HighInBC(Need help? Ask me) 04:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think you understand the nature of the complaint. I love jokes, jokes are great. But you are pretending to be part of the website. There are many ways to make a joke, but this one is old, and disruptive. HighInBC(Need help? Ask me) 13:57, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Indeed; there have been several discussions about this joke. It's not funny, and if I'm on someone's user/talk page, I have to make a habit of putting my cursor over the box to make sure it's not some joke. I'm sure other users have to do similar things. Acalamari 18:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I never understood the point of this thing. What do you get out of it? There's no counter for you to view, to see how many people have fallen for it, so you don't even get to witness the "joke" taking place (unless people sign the page, which evidently you have to beg them to do ). All it really does is annoy n00bs without giving any satisfaction to anyone. If that's comedy, I don't get it. Kafziel Talk 12:53, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Then maybe you have no humor. I'm taking it off because you and other members have such a bad sense of humor, not because I agree with you. You people spoiled the fun ^^ Now have a nice day and please don't bug me again. Zouavman Le Zouave (Talk to me! • O)))) 17:56, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't have a problem with you having it on your page or anything. My question is more along the lines of, "If a tree falls in a forest..." In other words: If you tell a joke and nobody laughs, was it funny? Kafziel Talk 18:05, 15 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I laugh about it and it's all I care about. I didn't do this for you guys, but for myself ^^ But apparently people are being tricked and take it so seriously and don't even play the game. What a shame. Zouavman Le Zouave (Talk to me! • O)))) 18:07, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Reply
Thanks for cleaning up your userpage. The Deranged page apparently got deleted by someone else before I could even warn you about it. The userbox subpage is okay, it's just that most people put more than one userbox on the subpage so that they don't clutter up their main page. By the way you wouldn't happen to like Soilwork would you? --Leon Sword 00:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Heavy Metal slang
Are you sure Grindcore has been referred to as mallcore? Inhumer 19:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Rapcore
It would not be very reasonable to have rapcore on the template. Rapcore, or rap metal, is very closely linked to nu metal (apart from some artists), and since nu metal is already on the template, it is almost useless to add rapcore to the list. Also, rapcore is relatively small compared to the other subgenres of metal listed on the template. Please try to discuss the issue if you feel it should go any farther. Zouavman Le Zouave (Talk to me!) 15:05, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * If this is the case, and rapcore is not distinct enough from nu metal, would you therefore assist me in merging the rapcore article into the nu metal article? --AdamM 15:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I would be able to help you, but as I said earlier, not all rapcore artists are part of the nu metal movement. I think that rapcore is distinct enough from nu metal to have its own article, but not to have its place on the template. Again this is only my opinion. If you really want to propose a merge between the two articles, I could probably help you set it up, but if I was to give my opinion, I would probably disagree with the merge of rapcore in nu metal. Zouavman Le Zouave (Talk to me!) 15:11, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Well then I'm sorry but this doesn't make sense. Either rapcore is a legitimate subgenre of metal and can go on the template, or it is a subgenre of nu metal and must be merged into that article. You cannot ignore rapcore if it exists, no matter how insignificant it is. --AdamM 15:14, 1 April 2007 (UTC)