User talk:Zteutsch

Read WP:COPYVIO
Your edits to Paula Hyman have been reverted. Editing an article is not word-for-word pasting from sources. Were you going for some sort of subversive irony by cutting and pasting from other people's work into an article about an academic and claiming them as your edits? In college that's plagiarism, and here it's copyright violation. Do not restore those edits. Moreover, I'd also imagine your comments on deletion discussion on Commons regarding not having a clue about the copyright status of the image are because you took the photo off the article you copy-pasted from in the first place, rather than figuring out how to get the image released or if that was even possible.

I generally don't bite newbies, but this behavior is ridiculously egregious, and expressly prohibited here on Wikipedia. It seems you decided to jump in without having the first clue of what to do, and my hope is that you learn from the mistakes and do not repeat them. MSJapan (talk) 19:17, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

I obtained permission directly from the author (Deborah Dash Moore) to use the work from her obit in precisely this fashion. I sent Moore, one of the leading experts on the topic, a link to the revised article for review and she said "Wow, that is great. Thank you very much." The original article was extremely inadequate and given that Moore was pleased to add her work to the commons, it seems like a good short-term solution. Over time, surely the article will grow and change. Surely you didn't know that I had obtained permission. How can such a thing be clarified and recognized properly? Zteutsch (talk) 14:22, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, well, if that is the case, then you have two items you need to address: one is the article content from the Forward, which is Moore's work.  The key issue is the donating copyrighted materials page because you as an editor cannot "donate" materials to which you do not hold the rights.  There is also a question of whether Moore retains her rights; her piece being written for the Forward means that she may not be the sole copyright holder, or have the sole right of assigning permissions.  In short, does Moore hold those rights herself, does the Forward, or is it jointly?  In any event Requesting copyright permission should be your last stop for this item. All the steps you need are there, and they must be followed in their entirety.


 * Separate from the above is the photo, which is copyright to an educational institution (Yale) and the photographer, and which Moore used by permission herself. Therefore, Moore cannot assign usage rights for that photo. You would again need to go to Requesting copyright permission to address that, but you would have to deal with Yale on that matter. MSJapan (talk) 18:42, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * And one more thing...Wikipedia requires independent sources. If the basis for the article as it stands is to be the work of one person who actually worked with Hyman on a book, there's a serious question of lack of independence (hagiography), and a very minor conflict of interest because of their prior working relationship. MSJapan (talk) 16:18, 21 December 2011 (UTC)