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Ennis Del Mar and Jack Twist articles
Hey, Zythe. You might be interested in this discussion. Flyer22 (talk) 16:59, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

You
Are an elitist douche. You're the problem on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.207.65.88 (talk) 08:37, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Apologies for reverting your edit one time...? And thanks for making the start to my day so negative and personal. Cheers.Zythe (talk) 09:57, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it was one edit. But it's a reversion I've had too many times. I was once an admin here, with tens of thousands of edits and several FAC's under my belt. Reversions like yours are why I left. With your worldly, 22-year experience of life, you dismissed my edit as "cruft", an intentionally insulting term. The "cruft" was a mention that the 10th Doctor's final words, "I don't want to go," are clearly an inversion of his catchphrase, the French term for "Let's go." That's just "cruft". If you'd reverted it looking for a citation that that is what Davies intended - and I have no doubt but no proof he did - I would've shrugged it off - fair enough - and not gotten snippy on your talk page. You're a 22 year old kid who thinks he knows the rules better (other than WP:OWN, of course) than anyone else and feels you have carte blanche to revert anyone with an IP address rather than a user name. Sorry, dude, but you ARE the problem on this website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.207.65.88 (talk) 08:12, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Erm, I wouldn't say cruft was insulting: I didn't see how the addition was helpful to summarily telling the story in broad terms for non-fans. I don't think I'm the problem with the site, tbh, but thanks again for making another personal disparagement. The fact that I'm 22 rather than 44 shouldn't make a lick of difference. I resent the accusation that you think I think I "own" articles because I try to discourage trivial overexpansions of content. The "I don't want to go"/"Allons-y" thing is clearly interesting but belongs in a different section with a lovely source to support it.Zythe (talk) 08:32, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The term "cruft" is insulting. Period. I'm not going to get into why; research it. My addition, long ago, was not a significantly large expansion of an article; it was a single sentence. You reverted it with an insulting edit comment. You decided your "I'm a user-name editor with many edits on Dr. Who articles" opinion was more important than "some anon IP edit" gave you the right to revert, rather than tag it for a citation. That's why I tagged the relevant WP policy and called you elitist. I throw around your age because I remember what an asshole I was when I was 22 - at which age i'd been a Who fan for 15 years already - and honestly, am trying to wind you up, because I remember how sensitive I was about references to my age when I was a kid who thought I was much smarter than everyone older than I. Also, we'd have much in common in our interests, which makes me sad that we've been introduced in an antagonistic fashion. You were crapping in diapers when i became a hardcore Buffy fan. Xander FTW.
 * I wasn't crapping diapers at 7, but okay. I was even potty-trained by the time the movie came out. Look, I don't dislike you and I'm sorry if you think I think I am some bigshot, but obviously I don't think that and I don't believe I throw my weight around. The fact that I have a username is about convenience not some kind of prestige. As everyone knows, editing Wikipedia is not something one is proud of. Look man, I just edit on this thing, and probably could be more tactful with edit summaries, but I don't mean to come over like a dick and I'm sorry if you think my edit summary was indexical of some enormous set of juvenile traits or something. I don't want to get this into a whole discussion about what kind of guy I am outside of Wikipedia, but I'd like to think people don't think I'm an asshole blowhard. Can we call peace?Zythe (talk) 09:37, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, truce. Sorry dude. I have a lot of grudges against the Wikipedia "elite", and the power structure here is still as messed up as when I quit it years ago. Part of that is hyper-elitism against IP edits, and a frequently heavily-loaded use of the word "cruft". Looking back at your edits, you're really not the problem, but reverting an IP edit using the word "cruft" led me to a bunch of assumptions, and I took out a bunch of frustration about that against you, and you didn't deserve it. My apologies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.207.65.88 (talk) 08:29, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Buffy the Vampire Slayer (TV series)
I figured that you may want to weigh in on this new move discussion, since you did last time. Flyer22 (talk) 15:56, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Pansexuality article
Also, Zythe, I've been meaning to tell you about this removal (the Jack Harkness addition that you added). The removal is invalid, of course, because a person can be both pansexual and sexually attracted to aliens or non-human animals, just like a person can be both heterosexual and a zoophile or heterosexual and a pedophile. Besides, what you added to the article about Jack shows that he has sex with aliens that often take the human male or human female form (I'm not sure if he's had sex with an alien while the alien isn't in human form or doesn't naturally look human, because I'm not familiar with the character...though I have watched some episodes of Doctor Who before; it was when there was a different Dr. Who -- the Ninth Doctor (and a bit when the Tenth Doctor came about). And while the Lost Girl entry was unsourced, and sources more often refer to Bo as bisexual, it's not like she has sex with any of the Fae who are non-human animals while they are in non-human form. And just as importantly, if not more so, the information was in the In media section. That means it's about how the media has portrayed pansexuality and other things relating to the media and pansexuality; there is no obligation that the media needs to be accurate before we can include information about their take on the concept. Flyer22 (talk) 23:23, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

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In The Flesh

 * Hi, I actually had no idea they were "lovers", I assumed you were just adding things you thought were needed when they wasn't ... :So I apologize if I offended you and for the undo's - I was clearly in the wrong! Also the "What are you on" wasn't really needed
 * ANYWAY Apologies!, Happy Editing!, Kindest Regards, Davey 2010   Talk  00:20, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Haha. The revealing of his injury to his lower forearm is fairly evident of suicide; specifically as it followed Ricks apparent death. Then there was the comment about them "messing around"... ;) Reedy (talk) 01:00, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

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Why do you insist on undoing all of my edits? I am adding more information to the last appearance, you've gone and pressed undo or every single character! I spent alot of time doing that to try and improve these pages and you just go and do that! Who the hell do you think you are? What gives you the right to decide? I was making it more detailed, adding years, adding last full appearance and last cameo for clarification and you delete it all? The way you've left it, some of them don't have a last appearance field at all.

Reading this page, it seems you've done this to many others! It's downright selfish and childish! People like you ruin this website! Pathetic! — Preceding unsigned comment added by I am the real slim shady (talk • contribs) 21:13, 3 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Last appearances isn't a field which is very useful for 99% of fictional characters. It works best with finite works (e.g. Sherlock Holmes), but not with ongoing serials (such as Doctor Who). It's also not best to specify whether there are "cameo" last appearance and "real" last appearances, as the infobox is for snappy factual data and a "last" appearance is by definition singular if it can be said to even exist.Zythe (talk) 23:05, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

I give up. What gives you the right to decide? Reading this page, you clearly go around deleting everyone's work because you think you're better than everyone else and have the right to decide what goes into each page! I spent quite a while adding that information for every single new series companion and you go and delete it all?! Forget it, I'm done making Wiki edits now and trying to improve pages! What's the point when bullies like you come and destroy other people's hard work? What a spiteful person you are. Hope you're happy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by I am the real slim shady (talk • contribs) 01:07, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * These things have all been debated at great length (e.g. Template_talk:Infobox_character/Archive_3). I'm not spiteful; I'm not sure what there is on this page to make you think so. Please be less emotive.Zythe (talk) 12:02, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

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Oh dear, I meant that as a big compliment. I am so sorry. Sometimes humor does not come across very well. I have been following the exchange on the Colbert page and appreciated your posts. Please accept a heartfelt apology. Best, Gandy Gandydancer (talk) 18:03, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
 * oh, thank you, sorry! I guess I was a little sensitive to being called an 'elitist douche' again! Thanks for the note of support :) Zythe (talk) 18:47, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

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What would you define as a valid source? From User:Catholic nerd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.44.194 (talk) 05:40, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * A well-known website or newspaper which have a defined editorial structure. io9 /Gawker, Digital Spy and Den of Geek would count, The Guardian would count, even a local newspaper would count. Airlock Alpha probably wouldn't, Androzani definitely wouldn't (nor would any Doctor Who fansite), and self-published sources like blogs, zines or personal websites definitely don't count. Plenty of mainstream critics disliked Rose however, so you're bound to be able to find some if you use a Google News archive search! (See Identifying_reliable_sources for clarification) Zythe (talk) 12:48, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

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Not sure if you saw where I linked this on the talk page of WP:WHO, but I agree Doctor Who needs an overhaul and I made a rough outline not too long ago here. It requires quite a bit of research but it's doable if we've got enough people with sources willing to work. I can tackle the 2010s section and possibly 2000s. As we work the outline may change a bit and that's fine. User:Kelvin 101 started working on the missing episodes section a little while ago. Glimmer721 talk  21:11, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey - I saw this and added a link. Do you mind if for the time being I collect sources and dump them on that page, and gradually try convert them to prose?Zythe (talk) 21:14, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * That's totally fine! The sandbox is open to everyone. This is a particularly good source and a second edition was recently published. Glimmer721  talk  02:41, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

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The Incarnation's Personalities
If you really feel that way about the Eleventh Doctor's Personality then get rid of the other Personality sections of the other Doctors pages. I personally that each incarnation traits and habit should be pointed out however. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taw2541 (talk • contribs) 16:26, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:SYNTHESIS and WP:OR. Basically, your interpretation of the episodes while probably correct can't be used by Wikipedia. I can't be bothered to go deleting the other articles, especially because they're so terrible in the first place - let's just focus on making good ones.Zythe (talk) 17:38, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

I still want to give the Eleventh Doctor a personality section, what would be the best way to do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taw2541 (talk • contribs) 01:19, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Find descriptions of his personality in reliable, preferably authoritative sources, and use them to construct a section while avoiding "joining" them up into bigger points. The Gwen Cooper article does a fairly good job of it. Sources that are good tend to be reviews, interviews, academic literature and behind-the-scenes books and documentaries.Zythe (talk) 12:44, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Doctor Who Regeneration
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Kirk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kspearson (talk • contribs) 11:49, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

The quote to end all edit wars?
There are honestly so many discussions on this I don't know where posting it would have the most effect, but I know you've been involved with about all of them and maybe with some other sources we could add it to the Doctor Who MOS or something. Anyway, I was reading the Doctor Who Magazine preview of the 50th Anniversary Special (in issue 467) and Steven Moffat said this: "'He's very specific, the John Hurt Doctor, that he doesn't take the name of the Doctor. He doesn't call himself that. He's the same Time Lord, the same being as the Doctors either side of him, but he's the one who is still the Eleventh Doctor, the Tenth Doctor is still the Tenth... Technically, if you really counted it, the David Tennant Doctor is two Doctors, on the account of the Meta-Crisis Doctor... It's not a matter of counting the regenerations, but of counting the faces of the Time Lord that calls himself the Doctor. There's an anomaly Doctor slotted in somewhere, that's all. In the script to The Day of the Doctor, Matt's Doctor was called the Eleventh, and David's was called the Tenth - so the numbering stays exactly the same - and we call Peter Capaldi the Twelfth Doctor.'"

It was a follow-up to saying that he didn't intend on confusing people or majorly changing the numbering. I think it's pretty clear. Glimmer721 talk  19:23, 6 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah this is a good one. Clarity is all well and good, but I find I have run into one of Wikipedia's weaknesses. In a real office editorial environment, people can just tell the pedants to stop once you've shown your way works better on the page/screen. But on Wikipedia you end up neverendingly debating with them. It's cooled down a bit now, thankfully.
 * We should probably use this as a giant pullquote in the War Doctor article and and include it in the Writing section for "TDOTD" as well! "Technically, if you really counted it" also suggests you shouldn't normally ever count David Tennant as two people as well, but people still will. Forever more. Sigh.Zythe (talk) 00:28, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, "Day" got GAN a bit earlier than I was expecting and when someone reviews it I'll mention potential other sources and probably add things from this interview. I can grab the cite info for the quote or the article if you'd like. I've been avoiding current stuff since it's become a mess but still reasonably taken care of, and focused my attention on older, lesser articles. Glimmer721  talk  01:43, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

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The War Doctor
You write "He has no number because he abandoned the name Doctor, not because he's not a full regeneration" but still you are reverting to a version which gives him a number in the list. I don't see your logic. Arms Jones (talk) 18:23, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * You have misunderstood. The Wiki's numbering of distinct incarnations obviously need not match with the ordinal naming of the Doctors, if you are numbering incarnations irrespective of whether they took the name Doctor. War Doctor is the ninth incarnation, but his tenth is incarnation is one known by the name Ninth Doctor.Zythe (talk) 19:25, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I beg to differ. The Ninth Doctor is the ninth Doctor. The War Doctor is beside the numbering. Arms Jones (talk) 19:49, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

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 * Hey, Zythe, saw your edits, and they're great! Didn't know that Drake took over in the interim between Stephanie Brown and Damian, so thanks especially for adding that.  The only question I have is that you mention that Bluebird was highly trained - I'm not sure I saw that in the sources I used, and haven't read the comic myself, so I don't know what kind of training she actually got.  Can you shed any light on that?


 * Thanks again for the re-write, it's pretty amazing. TI. Gracchus (talk) 18:21, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

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Hello, I'm SilverSurfingSerpent. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Professor Zoom without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; I restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. SilverSurfingSerpent (talk) 19:16, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Professor Zoom. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. SilverSurfingSerpent (talk) 19:48, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
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 * Is this a person or a bot? No edit war; you automatically reverted my edit for not having an edit summary, and so I remade it with an edit summary. Cool it, Jeff.Zythe (talk) 19:52, 25 May 2015 (UTC)