User talk:Zzhu8516

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (February 21)
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Sulfurboy (talk) 14:49, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (February 22)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted because it included copyrighted content, which is not permitted on Wikipedia.

You are welcome to write an article on the subject, but please do not use copyrighted work.


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Theroadislong (talk) 14:59, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (February 22)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted because it included copyrighted content, which is not permitted on Wikipedia.

You are welcome to write an article on the subject, but please do not use copyrighted work.


 * User:Zzhu8516/sandbox may be deleted at any time unless the copied text is removed. Copyrighted work cannot be allowed to remain on Wikipedia.
 * If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=User_talk:Zzhu8516 Articles for creation help desk] or on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Theroadislong&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=User_talk:Zzhu8516 reviewer's talk page] . or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Theroadislong (talk) 15:14, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

AfC notification: User:Zzhu8516/sandbox has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at User:Zzhu8516/sandbox. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 16:04, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

== Your submission at Articles for creation: Triple pelvic osteotomy (TPO) (canine and feline) (February 22) ==  Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Triple_pelvic_osteotomy_(TPO)_(canine_and_feline) Articles for creation help desk] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Robert McClenon was: This submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: This draft is being tendentiously resubmitted, and is being repeatedly declined as copyright violation, by reviewers User:Sulfurboy and User:Theroadislong.

Robert McClenon (talk) 18:27, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Feedback for your course tutor
Your course tutor appears to has given you an unreasonable assignment which has resulted in much anguish for you. Here is a copy of my reply to a question at the Teahouse from another experienced editor who has been trying to help you understand the problems have have been facing in meeting unreasonable assignment targets:


 * Hello Matilda. I am an administrator here on Wikipedia, and I would invite you to pass on the following comments to your course tutor, pointing out that we have told you that (through no fault of your own) your course tutor's actions have created an upsetting and difficult situation, which we cannot resolve for you:
 * It is highly unprofessional for any course tutor to set any tasks which require any student to create a new article on this encyclopaedia.
 * To tell a student that their success in their assignment depends upon such a task is irresponsible and unfair to the student
 * It shows a complete misunderstanding by the course tutor of what Wikipedia is here for.
 * Wikipedia does encourage educational organisations to work with us, but this is not the way to go about it.
 * Your tutor can learn how to get students to work with Wikipedia by going to.
 * They should have made it clear to all student that simply copy/pasting content from published sources into Wikipedia breaches our policies; is intellectual theft, and teaches the student very little. All contributors here must write content in their own words.
 * Overly-technical articles that serve an instructional manual are not accepted on Wikipedia, per WP:NOTMANUAL
 * Creating an article in a student's own sandbox, or as a Draft, should be as far as any course target should ever go. Expecting us to accept every student page into mainspace is unreasonable, unrealistic and unfair on the student.
 * The hand drawn diagrams uploaded by this student are not of sufficient quality for an encyclopaedia, yet expecting any student to be able to create non-copyright, good quality imagery of skeletal structure is also unrealistic.
 * Notwithstanding the obvious breaches of copyright, this student's work clearly shows me that they have grasped enough of Wikipedia's procedures to create a draft, lay it out correctly, and can add suitable citations (though they could have been improved by adding authors and dates, and not citing a private site requiring login authorisation).
 * Had there not been copyright issues and a belief that this is too detailed a page for Wikipedia, I would have said this was not a bad effort by the student.
 * Setting a course target of publishing a paper has caused disruption here, and could have ;led to the student being blocked, yet this would have been the fault of the course tutor, not the student.
 * We already have an article on Hip dysplasia, and a short edit to this section of it might have been more appropriate - and still could be.


 * If the course tutor wishes to engage with me for further advice, they are welcome to come to my Talk Page and I will clarify any matter for them. I am placing this (slightly modified) copy of my response on your talk page, as you may feel awkward or embarrassed about passing on a link to the Teahouse discussion (which will be archived in a few days, anyway, so the link won't then function).Nick Moyes (talk) Nick Moyes (talk) 02:39, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

There are some points that i want to say: My tutor said very clearly about using your own words to write. It was me that made this mistake and i want to revise the aricle instead of rejecting it and denying all the efforts that i made.For the references, i could delete those private website and add author and dates. This aricle is about a surgery called Triple pelvic osteotomy which is caused by hip dysplasia,so it is not just explaining what hip dysplasia is.I explained some about the hip dysplasia in the aricle to make it more clear about the purpose of the surgery.If u think the part about hip dysplasia is unnecessary,i can delete them and make the text shorter.Everyone will make mistake and i did not mean to violate any policy. It is because it is about a surgery so i feel a little bit difficult to rewrite some of the theory. But now i understand. And can i still edit my article and can it be published if it is good enough? But under such a circumstance, even if i finish writing, i cannot resubmit as it is rejected. As what u said abot pic, i have tried my best to draw.If it is under the wiki standard. I can delete it. So what do u reconmmend to do next for me? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzhu8516 (talk • contribs) 03:13, 24 February 2020 (UTC)


 * In my opinion the draft is well enough structured and if the copyright/plagiarism issues can be resolved it may be suitable as an encyclopedia article. It may go into unusually technical detail, but that is a consequence of the topic. It does not provide sufficient information or step by step detail to be considered a "How to" guide to doing the procedure. I found it interesting and informative. The people at WP:WikiProject Medicine will be in a position to give a more definitive opinion of the appropriateness of the topic matter and detail of information. I suggest you ask them. If they agree that it is acceptable in principle, rewrite until there is no evidence of copyright infringement left. Transfer to mainspace will have to be done carefully to avoid any trace of copyright material remaining in the history. Although the diagrams are not professional quality they illustrate the content quite well, and assuming they are technically accurate, I would recommend keeping them until something better becomes available. We have good illustrators who may find this an interesting challenge. What would be useful is links to reference quality illustrations in a reliable source, that such an illustrator could work from. &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 18:08, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Welcome
Hello, Zzhu8516 and welcome to Wikipedia! It appears you are participating in a class project. If you haven't done so already, we encourage you to go through our training for students.

If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Please also read this helpful advice for students.

Before you create an article, make sure you understand what kind of articles are accepted here. Remember: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and while many topics are encyclopedic, some things are not.

Your instructor or professor may wish to set up a course page, and if your class doesn't already have one please tell your instructor about that. It is highly recommended that you place this text:  on the talk page of any articles you are working on as part of your Wikipedia-related course assignment. This will let other editors know this article is a subject of an educational assignment and aid your communication with them.

We hope you like it here and encourage you to stay even after your assignment is finished! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:28, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * You can also have your instructor email us through contact@undefinedwikiedu.org as well! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:29, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Triple pelvic osteotomy (TPO) (canine and feline)


Hello, Zzhu8516. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Triple pelvic osteotomy".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the, , or  code.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:52, 6 October 2020 (UTC)