When Do We Start Fighting...

When Do We Start Fighting... is an album by British band Seafood, released in July 2001.

The track "What May Be The Oldest" originally featured on the b-side of the "Led By Bison" single from Seafood's previous album Surviving the Quiet. The re-recorded version on When Do We Start Fighting... features vocals from former Madder Rose singer Mary Lorson.

Track listing
All songs written by Seafood.


 * 1) "Intro" – 0:39
 * 2) "Cloaking" – 2:34
 * 3) "Western Battle" – 3:37
 * 4) "Pleasurehead" – 4:00
 * 5) "What May Be The Oldest" – 3:10
 * 6) "People Are Underestimated" – 4:50
 * 7) "Splinter" – 3:40
 * 8) "In This Light Will You Fight Me?" – 5:14
 * 9) "Desert Stretched Before The Sun" – 3:20
 * 10) "Similar Assassins" – 4:31
 * 11) "He Collects Dust" – 5:34
 * 12) *"Clueso" (hidden track) – 3:07

The track listing as given on the album's sleeve lists track 1 as "Cloaking", track 2 as "Western Battle" etc. omitting to mention that the album actually starts with "Intro".

On the album's initial release a limited edition of 5000 copies was produced in card sleeves with added multimedia content including movies, a diary, screensaver and a Seafood game. Early copies of this limited edition were signed by the band.

The album was re-released in March 2002 with a bonus disc entitled Coursework featuring demos and live session tracks. The Coursework CD was also available to order from Seafood's official website and features the following tracks:


 * 1) "Cloaking (Demo)" – 2:34
 * 2) "In This Light Will You Fight Me? (Demo)" – 4:59
 * 3) "Similar Assassins (Demo)" – 3:45
 * 4) "People Are Underestimated (Session track)" – 3:10
 * 5) "What May Be The Oldest (Session track)" – 3:09
 * 6) "Porchlight (Session track)" – 5:31

US track listing

 * 1) "Intro"/"Splinter" – 4:17
 * 2) "Western Battle" – 3:37
 * 3) "What May Be The Oldest" – 3:10
 * 4) "Pleasurehead" – 4:00
 * 5) "Cloaking" – 2:34
 * 6) "Similar Assassins" – 4:31
 * 7) "People Are Underestimated" – 4:50
 * 8) "Desert Stretched Before The Sun" – 3:20
 * 9) "In This Light Will You Fight Me?" – 5:14
 * 10) "He Collects Dust" – 5:34
 * 11) *"Clueso" (hidden track) – 3:07

Personnel

 * David Line - Vocals, guitars
 * Kevin Hendrick - Bass, vocals
 * Charles MacLeod - Guitars
 * Caroline Banks - Drums, vocals

additional musicians

 * Mary Lorson - Vocals on "What May Be The Oldest"
 * Scott McCloud - Spoken word on "He Collects Dust"
 * Pete de Boer - Additional screaming on "He Collects Dust"
 * Ben Hutchinson - Percussion
 * Eli Janney - Keyboards