Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Mattisse/Alerts

Welcome to the Mattisse alerts page, where editors can report issues to Mattisse's mentors/advisors to help her follow her plan, in particular by drawing early attention to situations where Mattisse may be heading into conflict with other editors. For more information on Mattisse's plan, see:
 * User:Mattisse/Plan
 * User talk:Mattisse/Plan

To raise an issue, please follow this link to start a new section. A form will be preloaded into the edit window, with further advice on completing the process. This page is intended for alerts, although the associated talk page can be used for discussion with advisors/mentors and others. Please be concise and clear, both in reports here, and in discussion on the associated talk page. Advisors/mentors may sometimes reword or refactor discussion in the interests of clarity. Advice intended directly for Mattisse may be better placed on her user talk page.


 * Active advisors/mentors
 * 1) Salix alba - admin
 * 2) John Carter - admin
 * 3) Philcha
 * 4) Geometry guy - admin
 * 5) SilkTork - admin Withdrawn
 * 6) RegentsPark - admin

See also Arbitration/Requests/Case/Mattisse/Monitoring.


 * ArbCom decision and clarification
 * Arbitration/Requests/Case/Mattisse
 * Arbitration/Requests/Case/Mattisse


 * DYK
 * User:Art LaPella has offered to report on Mattisse's contributions to DYK. He can be contacted if any of Mattisse's contributions to DYK are causing or are likely to cause disruption; this is not a substitute for alerting editors here.
 * FAR
 * User:YellowMonkey can be contacted if any of Mattisse's contributions to FAR are causing or are likely to cause disruption; this is not a substitute for alerting advisors/mentors here.
 * GA
 * Philcha and Geometry guy are active in the GA process. They can be alerted here if any of Mattisse's contributions to GAN or GAR are causing or are likely to cause disruption.


 * Current alerts/concerns are listed below. Please note that these may sometimes be reworded by advisors/mentors for clarity.
 * To start a new alert, follow this link.

Monitoring page use
Concern raised by: Sandy Georgia (Talk)

Description of the issue: I am concerned that the Monitoring page is not being used for its intended purpose (Motion 9 and Motion 11), which is to coordinate mentoring activity and make sure all mentors are involved and issues are contained without escalation to uninvolved parties. The following threads are of concern:
 * 1) Original issue
 * 2) Mattisse talk thread 1
 * 3) Mattisse talk thread 2
 * 4) Geometry guy talk thread 1
 * 5) Geometry guy talk thread 2
 * 6) Moni3 talk thread

Date of alert: 18:46, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Actions taken by mentors: (1) Misunderstandings about the Monitoring and Alerts pages have been clarified and minor fixes (links, redirects etc.) have been made; (2) Following discussion on the Monitoring talk page, Mattisse has been indefinitely banned from 2010 Haiti earthquake and its talk page; (3) The Monitoring page has been used to record this for future reference.

Conclusion and consensus advice for Mattisse: The Monitoring page (and by extension its talk page) can or should only be edited by Mattisse and her advisors, and as such it provides a useful forum for discussion: it is more transparent than email, is accessible to all advisors, but also avoids escalation and involvement of other editors. However, it is a matter for Mattisse and advisors to decide how best to make use of this resource. In particular, the user talk pages of Mattisse and her advisors are also places where Mattisse and her advisors are free to communicate. Other editors may contribute to user talk discussions if they wish, but that is also a matter of choice.


 * Mattisse is advised that if she has concerns or questions about the actions of one her advisors, Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Mattisse/Monitoring is a good place to register her concerns, as all advisors may respond, but other editors will not interject.
 * Mattisse is requested not to edit significantly the content of her comments on talk pages after other editors have replied to them.
 * Mattisse is warned that accusations (explicit or implicit) of article ownership or encouraging article ownership are personalizations and comments regarding the motivations or good faith of other editors; such comments are contrary to her Plan.

Music of Minnesota at FAR
Concern raised by: Sandy Georgia (Talk)

Description of the issue: Mattisse at FAR

Music of Minnesota is at WP:FAR.

I haven't looked at the tagging and don't intend to (not my problem, but I have heavily edited the article and participated in the FAR): I have no opinion, merely raising the alert.

Date of alert: 20:06, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Actions taken by mentors: Conclusion and consensus advice for Mattisse:
 * Noted: Mattisse tagged three articles, one in correctly and two incorrectly. She has apologized for the erroneous tagging . --RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 20:35, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Mattisse is advised to try not to make general statements about source quality and stick, instead, to specific examples of poor sourcing without any editorial content.

April Fool's TFA discussion
Concern raised by: Karanacs (talk) and Andy Walsh   (talk)

Description of the issue: There is a current discussion at WT:FAC on which FAs would be appropriate as Today's Featured Article on April Fool's Day. One editor suggested the recently promoted wife selling (English custom), which had been nominated by user:Malleus Fatuorum, with whom Mattisse has had previous conflicts. Mattisse's first comment to the discussion was "It would be a way of beefing up it's low page view statistics and maybe even get it linked to other articles at Wikipedia so that it contributes to the general encyclopedia". This comment was interpreted by me and at least one other editor (Malleus) as denigrating the article wife selling. Later in the discussion, Raul654 listed his favorites for that day. Mattisse's response was "Hum, says a lot about the culture of TFA. Scary. and certainly not concerned with wider Wikipedia interest and participation". This was followed later by "I think TFA should be concerned with the general reader, rather than what gives FA editors a chuckle". Mattisse may have good points (the social problem of wife selling in cultures where women have low status), but there are better and less divisive ways to frame those.

Date of alert: 17:38, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Actions taken by mentors:
 * Mattisse advised to restate her position in a reasonable manner (which she did).
 * Mattisse banned for 48 hrs from posting on WT:FAC.

Conclusion and consensus advice for Mattisse: