Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Venezuelan politics

Case opened on 23:07, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Case closed on 12:01, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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Prior dispute resolution

 * this AN/I which is still open at the moment, but it's two weeks old and starting to stink up AN/I;
 * this previous AN/I which was archived unclosed and without result;
 * this previous AN/I from 2020 that got action but didn't resolve the dispute.

Preliminary statements
Preliminary statements given in the case request stage may be found at /Preliminary statements.

Arbitrators' opinions on hearing this matter (7/0/0)

 * I started reading this thread last night and was surprised that the community was indiciating that it needed to come to ArbCom. It seems, ultimately, a dispute between two editors and the community has shown capacity to handle those disputes in nearly all cases. The issue, as much as anything, seems to be why I didn't finish reading the thread: a bunch of long posts. And if that's truly the case, I'm wondering if we couldn't find a way to handle this outside of a case if it's really true that the community can't on its own resolve this. I also can't help but wonder if the community would be interested in GS allowing uninvolved administrators to impose word counts (and perhaps sectioning?) at noticeboards on INVOLVED parties. I look forward to reading more feedback from editors about this. Barkeep49 (talk) 13:04, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @Ivanvector (and others) to be clear I'm not suggesting ArbCom pass any kind of ANI restrictions. It's why I pondered it as GS; something that the community would choose for itself. Barkeep49 (talk) 15:54, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * This is one of those posts where I started writing anticipating I'd do one thing but in laying out my thinking I find that I've convinced myself to do something else. I have now looked at (but not comprehensively read) all of the threads linked to by . My read is that most of them are really about WMrapids and NoonIcarus. The remainder seem to be things working as designed if passionately so (e.g. RSP disucssion) or older and not particularly hard for admin to have sorted out. I am reasonably convinced from what I've read that the threshold of "the community cannot handle this" has been reached with regards to those two editors. If that's all this was, I would lean against a full case given that "TBAN and/or iBAN" is on the table and could be passed by motion here. However, this would lead to a potentially unfair outcome that is easy but perhaps not just. I might be willing to live with that - my duty isn't to the parties but to the encyclopedia - were it not for the deeper question some have posed. That is "has this not been resolved because of administrator concerns such that would justify adding Venezuelan politics as a contentious topic?". As such I'm at an accept to answer the two questions of how to address the conduct of these two parties and is there sufficient evidence to justify a contentious topic designation. Barkeep49 (talk) 16:29, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 * As I sort of indicating at the ANI discussion, I've been predicting this dispute would end up in front of us for the last year or so. Dispute resolution background wise, I see way more than enough to accept a case. But I'm wondering if there are any last minute steps that could be taken. Other than enacting the TBAN consensus at the ANI (although I'm aware that might not completely "solve" the issue here), I think Barkeep's idea about general sanctions limiting word count is a really good idea. I'm also wondering how the community feels about a proposal for general sanctions in the topic area, instead of Arbcom level Contentious topic designation? Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 23:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @Isaacl, I'm wondering if the community should/wants to have a discussion about GS. Responses so far seem against that, and makes a good point about the dispute resolution process not working. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 15:50, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm ready to accept this given the responses here and the several previous attempts as resolution. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 16:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 * We have multiple experienced editors and administrators telling us that community dispute resolution processes have not worked, along with a list of examples. I find Vanamonde93's comment that Venezuelan topics have been consuming a disproportionate share of airtime at the noticeboards for a long time, with a lot of discussions finding problems but not reaching consensus particularly persuasive; it seems regardless of the number of actors involved at present, this issue is sucking up community time without any meaningful improvement to behaviour in the topic area. At present I am leaning toward acceptance. firefly  ( t · c ) 17:09, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Accept with a scope along the lines Barkeep49 outlines. firefly  ( t · c ) 19:38, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Accept per Firefly. &#126; ToBeFree (talk) 18:48, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Accept per the others; we should not take the easy route with quick topic bans only to circle back in 6 months because it did not fix the issue. Primefac (talk) 07:15, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Accept per everybody. Cabayi (talk) 09:22, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Accept Maxim (talk) 13:35, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Temporary injunction (none)
=Final decision= All tallies are based the votes at /Proposed decision, where comments and discussion from the voting phase is also available.

Purpose of Wikipedia
1) The purpose of Wikipedia is to create a high-quality, free-content online encyclopedia. This is best achieved in an atmosphere of collegiality, camaraderie, and mutual respect among contributors.
 * Passed 10 to 0 at 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Standards of editor behavior
2) Wikipedia users are expected to behave reasonably, calmly, and courteously in their interactions with other users. Unseemly conduct, such as personal attacks, incivility, harassment, disruptive point-making, and gaming the system, is prohibited. Additionally, editors should presume that other editors, including those who disagree with them, are acting in good faith toward the betterment of the project, at least until strong evidence emerges to the contrary. Even when an editor becomes convinced that another editor is not acting in good faith, and has a reasonable basis for that belief, the editor should attempt to remedy the problem without resorting to inappropriate conduct of their own.
 * Passed 10 to 0 at 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Edit warring
3) Edit warring is disruptive and tends to inflame content disputes rather than resolve them. Users who engage in multiple reverts of the same content but are careful not to breach the three revert rule are still edit warring.
 * Passed 9 to 0 at 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Tendentious editing
4) Users who disrupt the editing of articles by engaging in sustained aggressive point-of-view editing may be banned from editing these articles. In extreme cases, they may be banned from the site.
 * Passed 9 to 0 at 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry
5) The general rule is one editor, one account, though there several legitimate uses of an alternate account. The creation or use of an additional account to conceal an editing history, to evade a block or a site ban, or to deceive the community, is prohibited. Sockpuppet accounts that are not publicly disclosed generally may not be used in discussions internal to the project subject to certain narrow exceptions.
 * Passed 10 to 0 at 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Recidivism
6) Editors sanctioned for disruptive behavior are expected to improve their behavior, should they continue to participate in the project. Sanctioned editors should be afforded assistance and reasonable time to improve (especially if they demonstrate the ability to engage positively with the community), but if their conduct does not improve they may be subject to increasingly severe sanctions.
 * Passed 10 to 0 at 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Building consensus
7) Wikipedia relies on a consensus model. Finding common ground is essential when editors disagree, and editors should be willing and able to actively do so. Editors' participation in discussions should not simply be reiterating their own positions. Editors' own positions should be represented concisely to allow room in the discussion for consensus to develop.
 * Passed 10 to 0 at 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Ideological disputes
8) Several of Wikipedia's most bitter disputes have revolved around political or ideological conflicts. Editors working on articles on these topics may frequently have strong viewpoints. Such editors are permitted and encouraged to contribute if they can do so in a manner consistent with Wikipedia's fundamental policies. However, conduct that furthers a preexisting dispute on Wikipedia should receive special attention from the community, up to and including sanctions. It is perfectly possible to present a balanced, accurate, and verifiable encyclopedia article about contentious issues or preexisting disputes.
 * Passed 10 to 0 at 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Locus of the dispute
1) This case concerns editing around Venezuelan politics, with particular focus on the conduct of and.
 * Passed 10 to 0 at 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Dispute resolution
2) There have been multiple attempts at dispute resolution in this topic area in recent years. These have included threads at administrator noticeboards, the dispute resolution noticeboard, the reliable sources noticeboard, and various RfCs. These have not been successful in resolving ongoing issues between the parties or in the wider topic area. Some of these attempts have suffered from repetitive topics and/or low participation. (Vanamonde93's preliminary statement; SandyGeorgia's, NoonIcarus', WMrapids' evidence)
 * Passed 9 to 0 at 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Use of multiple accounts
3) While the case was open, was CheckUser-blocked. WMrapids has edited in ways that violate the policy on sockpuppetry.
 * Passed 9 to 0 at 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

WMrapids' behaviour
4) WMrapids has engaged in edit warring, battleground behaviour, and personalisation of disputes (SandyGeorgia's evidence and NoonIcarus's evidence).
 * Passed 8 to 0 at 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Interpersonal issues
5) WMrapids and NoonIcarus have repeatedly failed to engage constructively with each other. (Vanamonde93's preliminary statement)
 * Passed 10 to 0 at 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

NoonIcarus' sanction history
6) In January 2020, was placed under a one year personal "consensus required restriction" at ANI due to edit warring. In April 2024, he was topic-banned at ANI from Latin American politics, broadly construed.
 * Passed 10 to 0 at 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

NoonIcarus' behaviour
7) Since the expiration of the 2020 restriction, NoonIcarus has engaged in edit warring and battleground behaviour (WMrapids's evidence and NoonIcarus's evidence).
 * Passed 5 to 0 with 2 abstentions at 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Remedies
Note: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.

WMrapids banned
4a) WMrapids is indefinitely banned from Wikipedia. This ban may be appealed twelve months after the enactment of this remedy, and every twelve months thereafter.
 * Passed 8 to 1 at 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

WMrapids topic banned
5) WMrapids is topic banned from Venezuelan politics, broadly construed. This restriction may be appealed twelve months after the enactment of this remedy, and every twelve months thereafter.
 * Passed 8 to 0 with 1 abstentions at 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Interaction ban
7) NoonIcarus and WMrapids are prohibited from interacting with or commenting on each other anywhere on Wikipedia, subject to the ordinary exceptions. This restriction may be appealed twelve months after the enactment of this remedy, and every twelve months thereafter.
 * Passed 10 to 0 at 12:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)