Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2010/Candidates/Harej/Questions

General questions

 * 1) Skills/interests: Which of the following tasks will you be prepared and qualified to perform regularly as an arbitrator? Your responses should indicate how your professional/educational background makes you suitable to the tasks.
 * 2) *(a) reviewing cases, carefully weighing up the evidence, and voting and commenting on proposed decisions;
 * 3) *(b) drafting proposed decisions for consideration by other arbitrators;
 * 4) *(c) voting on new requests for arbitration (on the requests page) and motions for the clarification or modification of prior decisions;
 * 5) *(d) considering appeals from banned or long-term-blocked users, such as by serving on the Ban Appeals Subcommittee or considering the Subcommittee's recommendations;
 * 6) *(e) overseeing the allocation and use of checkuser and oversight permissions, including the vetting and community consultation of candidates for them, and/or serving on the Audit Subcommittee or reviewing its recommendations;
 * 7) *(f) running checkuser checks (arbitrators generally are given access to CU if they request it) in connection with arbitration cases or other appropriate requests;
 * 8) *(g) carrying out oversight or edit suppression requests (arbitrators are generally also given OS privileges);
 * 9) *(h) drafting responses to inquiries and concerns forwarded to the Committee by editors;
 * 10) *(i) interacting with the community on public pages such as arbitration and other talk pages;
 * 11) *(j) performing internal tasks such as coordinating the sometimes-overwhelming arbcom-l mailing list traffic.
 * A: With an eighteen member Arbitration Committee, I do not consider it necessary for me or anyone else to be the jack of all trades, though I will probably dabble in all of these things at some point. That being said, (h) and (i) sound right up my alley, since I already do those things very frequently as the operator of four delightful Wikipedia bots which play a substantial role in certain processes. Think about it: since my RFC bot made its debut in 2007, I have been able to respond to the needs of those who use my bots, respond to requests to augment services, and even engage certain sections of the community where I believed my services would be beneficial. A user active at Requested moves requested that I automated the process, and I followed through on it. Good article nominations heard my interest in automating their process, and I heard their voices as I fine-tuned the bot and created the most user-friendly experience possible. Over one year later, the list is now updated automatically. Not to mention the myriad occasions where I would have to account for my bots' numerous malfunctions. Everything I have done to date with regard to my bot work has been made possible because I can effectively communicate my interests and needs, and I am receptive to the voices of others. If I can rationalize the often controversial work of the Arbitration Committee in the eyes of others, helping to create a more collegial editing environment, then I will say mission accomplished.
 * 1) Stress: How will you be able to cope with the stress of being an arbitrator, potentially including on- and off-wiki threats and abuse, and attempts to embarrass you by the public "outing" of personal information?
 * A: First of all, I am not a terribly private individual. My name is on my user page, and my username is in fact derived from my real name. I am comfortable with this. In the event I make enemies, which is unfortunately inevitable in this line of work, I suppose the best thing I could do is not let their words get to me. As for the typical stresses associated with ArbCom work, I could do what has allowed me to stay on Wikipedia for six years in fairly good terms: not let it consume me. I intend on being an active member of the Committee, certainly, but it will not be my full-time job. Again, I believe the purpose of the 18-member committee is to allow the work to be spread out.
 * 1) Principles: Assume the four principles linked to below are directly relevant to the facts of a new case. Would you support or oppose each should it be proposed in a case you are deciding, and why? A one- or two-sentence answer is sufficient for each. Please regard them ''in isolation rather than in the context of their original cases.
 * 2) *(a) "Private correspondence"
 * A: Copyright is a useful justification for the banning of posting private e-mails, but I don't consider it the real reason. I think people assume that an e-mail between them and another person &mdash; and no others &mdash; is considered private conversation. The degree to which that is true is of course questionable, but it is still the polite thing to not post e-mails in the public arena without prior warning. With editors taking the initiative to be polite, we can achieve a more collegial editing environment.
 * 1) *(b) "Responsibility"
 * A: This seems like common sense to me. People should generally be ready to explain why they took the course of action they took, especially since more often than not, actions will have a reason behind them and not be entirely capricious. With the understanding of why people do things, we can build trust. Of course, there are also the sensitive situations where people cannot express so openly why they do certain things. In those cases, I consider disclosure with the trustworthy ArbCom to be a reasonable course of action.
 * 1) *(c) "Perceived legal threats"
 * A: I definitely agree with the third sentence. However, I can see a case where a person used terms with application in law in a more vernacular way than an "I'm going to sue you" way. I probably have, accidentally of course. Should an editor be pressed on it, however, and said editor denies making a legal threat, I would assume good faith on their behalf and ask them to rephrase in such a way that it does not sound like they are going to pursue court action.
 * 1) *(d) "Outing"
 * A: I think it stands to reason that you are not outing that I live in Washington, D.C. if I say "I live in Washington, D.C." on my user page. The part of the statement which interests me, however, is "If a user has redacted that information, their wishes should be respected." My belief on this is that because of how the Internet works, once you open the can of worms you cannot necessarily corral them all back into the can. However, if a Wikipedia user requests that his or her personal information is not brought up, that should certainly be honored in spite of the Internet's eternal memory. Being considerate of others' privacy concerns is necessary for a collegial editing environment.
 * 1) Strict versus lenient: Although every case is different and must be evaluated on its own merits, would you side more with those who tend to believe in second chances and lighter sanctions, or with those who support a greater number of bans and desysoppings? What factors might generally influence you? Under what circumstances would you consider desysopping an admin without a prior ArbCom case?
 * A: Consider an editor that usually resolves his or her conflicts before they end up at the arbitration stage, but one situation just couldn't be resolved that way and he or she is then brought to arbitration. If this particular editor realizes that he or she really dropped the ball and wants to do better, I would prefer leniency &mdash; a mentorship with a trustworthy editor over an outright ban. After all, the stresses of arbitration would probably be enough to make an editor turn around. What about in a situation where an editor is typically constructive, but there's that one topic that always causes problems? A topic ban, barring a mentorship, would be useful there. I generally consider a sitewide ban to be a last resort, as it is better to retain editors where we can and address the causes of problems than to simply shove them out the door, which may actually backfire if a sincere editor lashes out in resentment of a ban. Thus you could say I generally believe in second chances. Though if an editor simply keeps causing problems, at some point, something's gotta give.
 * As for administrators, I believe they should be held to higher standards than non-administrators. However, this does not mean that one misstep means they're criminals. Administrating over a website subject to all the crap that Wikipedia is can be incredibly stressful. If the stress gets to an admin so much that they end up at ArbCom, a timeout period without adminship could prove useful, for both the sanity of the administrator and the editing environment of Wikipedia. If an admin proves time and time again that he or she just cannot handle adminship without it being a problem, removing their adminship on an indefinite basis may be an unfortunate necessity. For such a desysopping to be carried out even though it is the admin's first time at ArbCom, I guess that would happen for an administrator who is completely uncompromising and not interested in upholding the idea that administrators represent the best of the community.
 * 1) ArbCom and policies: Do you agree or disagree with this statement: "ArbCom should not be in the position of forming new policies, or otherwise creating, abolishing or amending policy. ArbCom should rule on the underlying principles of the rules. If there is an area of the rules that leaves something confused, overly vague, or seemingly contrary to common good practice, then the issue should be pointed out to the community". Please give reasons.
 * A: I agree that ArbCom is not a legislative body. The legitimacy of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines is derived from the consensus of the editors, and changes in policy should thus be grounded in consensus. Then what is ArbCom's role in dealing with inconsistencies and gray areas? I do not consider it outside of ArbCom's reach to order an RFC on the policy, using its bully pulpit to increase awareness of a very problematic policy flaw. If the issue of policy is resolved here, then great. Otherwise, the disputing editors would have to agree to disagree, to recognize that, say, with consensus for neither A nor B, both A and B are acceptable. If ArbCom were to even step in and say, as a temporary solution, "We are going with X," it would not help keep the peace.
 * Consider date delinking, which I had a tangential role in by virtue of volunteering to write the bot. It did not become acceptable because ArbCom decided as a provisional solution, "we support date delinking." It became acceptable as time went on, the issue became less contentious, and consensus was achieved for a full-date unlinking bot. Had ArbCom given up on waiting for consensus agreed to delinking, it would have set off a wave of delinking, justified by some "Mandate of ArbCom," with those who favor date linking feeling rightfully screwed over by the man. Yet by grace of the standard that ArbCom does not involve itself in policy, that didn't happen. Consensus was achieved as it was supposed to be.
 * 1) Conduct/content: ArbCom has historically not made direct content rulings, e.g., how a disputed article should read. To what extent can ArbCom aid in content disputes? Can, and should, the Committee establish procedures by which the community can achieve binding content dispute resolution in the event of long-term content disputes that the community has been unable to resolve?
 * A: It is my belief that the primary purpose of the Arbitration Committee is to ensure and protect a collegial editing environment. Largely for the reasons I stated above for ArbCom not getting involved in policy writing, ArbCom should similarly not be involved in writing articles, though it can, as I mentioned in an earlier answer, order an RFC to take place, using the bully pulpit of ArbCom to raise awareness of an issue. As for setting up a binding dispute resolution system for long-term content disputes, well, would it work? Is it the proper role of the Arbitration Committee to make consensus exist where one could not be established? The Arbitration Committee could set up the structure to give order to chaos, but the solution would have to come from people who knew what they were talking about. I should not be deemed a supreme editor over the Armenian-Azerbaijani War or global warming by virtue of being an arbitrator, were I to be elected.
 * 1) Success in handling cases: Nominate the cases from 2010 you think ArbCom handled more successfully, and those you think it handled less successfully? Please give your reasons.
 * A: I applaud Gibraltar for taking a topic of such controversy and subjecting it to extra behavioral scrutiny while keeping a closer eye (if not banning) the trouble makers, allowing for a more collegial editing environment on a topic which has been controversial for hundreds of years. Has this caused the drama to disappear? I will concede that it has not, but what matters is that there is more supervision. As for MZMcBride 2, I feel that ArbCom was too lenient, especially since MZMcBride has been before ArbCom before and has created unnecessary drama before.
 * 1) Proposals for change? What changes, if any, in how ArbCom works would you propose as an arbitrator, and how would you work within the Committee towards bringing these changes about?
 * A: What is there left to change? The Committee has become a tightly ran, regimented ship, practically like a real-life court. I will be completely honest and say I do not know what I would change.

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 * 1) Question from Sven Manguard: Please explain your account history. Please address: Why are you no longer using the account messedrocker? Why does it appear that your user rights have been modified to give you sysop privileges twice, while it does not appear that the rights were ever removed? and Why does it appear that the account harej went through a series of deletions and renamings in 2009. (log)
 * A: A fair question. A while back I started identifying on IRC as "harej," so I wanted to reserve the username on Wikipedia. Thus I registered "Harej" and did not make edits with it. From my registration in November 2004 until my rename in March 2009, I edited under the username "Messedrocker." (That username has since been hijacked.) In March of 2009 I decided that I wanted my username to be "Harej," so having control over both accounts, I requested to have the old "Harej" account renamed to "Harej (usurped)" and "Messedrocker" changed to "Harej".
 * As for the resysoppings, there was a period of eight or so months I spent without adminship; my log on Meta should reflect the desysopping of December 2007, given that desysopping is a steward function. The desysopping was because I wanted to take a break from adminship duties. The logs to which you link to should reflect my resysopping in August 2008. I apologize sincerely for my confusing username history, and I hope to have clarified any confusion. All my edits are under my current username.
 * 1) Question from MLauba: Over the past year, several arbitrators have been subjected to intense scrutiny over inadvertent copy /pasting or close paraphrasing in their contributions, some of it possibly due to political reasons. If elected, assuming such concerns get raised, what course of actions would you take to address the issues?
 * A: First of all, if you know of any copyright violations I may have committed, please contact me about them. If it indeed turns out I have committed some act of copyright infringement, I will own up to it and admit fault. It would be the right thing to do. If other arbitrators were caught, I would ask them to do the same.
 * Election coordinator's note: This was a duplicate question, but since already answered, I have let it stand. Jehochman Talk 16:09, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Question from Shooterwalker: Re: Q6&7. How should ArbCom address an editor who insists that "consensus for neither A nor B" means "Z is acceptable too", where "Z" was opposed by 80% of editors (without 80% support for A or B). What's an appropriate remedy for this editor, who enforces a guideline that the consensus opposes? And how should this ArbCom remedy affect future dispute resolution about "A vs. B vs. Z"? Shooterwalker (talk) 17:15, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * A: I am assuming that Z is some crazy source or approach of writing or editorial practice or what have you that has pretty much no credibility in the eyes of reasonable people. If you can go to the people who frequent an article, or more broadly a topic, and ask them their opinion on Z, and just about all of them express disdain for this Z, then there should be no doubt in the ArbCom's mind that Z is discredited. I am reminded of a dispute on soy protein back in the day. There was this one particular editor who insisted on using these sources that everyone else agreed were useless and largely inaccessible to the public at large in any case. It was not even a dispute so much as one person insisting on having his way. I am not sure how this ended up turning out; the editor might have been blocked or something. (A lot of what I did on Wikipedia happened literally years ago.)
 * Tangents about my past in dispute resolution aside, that there is no consensus on something doesn't mean that it's open season and everything is allowed. If the disputants can mostly corral together and agree that Z is lousy, then that is some kind of consensus. If after so many people agree that Z is inappropriate that the "Z faction" keeps going at it, it would be reasonable to state that they are acting against consensus, as while there is no consensus over A or B being right, there is definitely consensus that Z is wrong. If ArbCom can use their authority to get those pushing Z to not implement ideas for which there is no consensus, then that is a reasonable course of action. If they persist, then they're egregiously disrupting the editorial atmosphere and they should probably go.
 * But here's something interesting I came up with while answering this question: what if Z is actually the right course of action? What if the topic at hand is something which is dominated by hyper-partisans which have scared away the reasonable contributors, making A and B choosing one extreme over the other? What if Z is something like neutral point of view and due weight, being advocated by the few reasonable contributors who can brave the hostile atmosphere? I would hope ArbCom's role then would be to restore sanity. This means using pressure to get people to improve their behavior, shoving out the door those who will not improve despite everything, and enforcing civility akin to the system of discretionary sanctions already in place. This, combined with the use of ArbCom-promoted RFCs to increase awareness and discussion, could be useful towards creating a more collegial editing environment and a better encyclopedia.
 * Very clear response. I appreciate that considering it was a bit of an abstract and vague question. You understood me despite that, and answered candidly and thoughtfully. Thanks and good luck... Shooterwalker (talk) 04:59, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Question from Barts1a: If you are elected to a position on the Arbitration Committee; How would you change the process to eliminate the clear lack of candidates this year?
 * A: I don't think interest in ArbCom is going to come from the top down; it will come from people seeing potential in Wikipedia as a community and encyclopedia and wanting to do their part to resolve some of the more intractable conflicts. ArbCom is not a desirable thing to serve on because ArbCom has to make all the tough decisions that people couldn't make (at least not on a binding basis) earlier on in the dispute resolution process. In the process, it, and the people who serve on it, have made a ton of enemies. I know very few people who would do this sort of thing for free. That being said, what ArbCom can do is remember its role to create a more collegial editing environment so that we attract new editors and keep existing ones, so that as the oldtimers go, new blood comes in and brings new life to the Arbitration Committee.
 * 1) Question from Tryptofish: Please comment on this, especially with respect to whether it might reflect on your temperament as a possible arbitrator.
 * A: That was a particularly bad episode in my time here. First of all, I'd like to note that in my six years as a Wikipedia editor, that was probably the only time I exploded in someone's face like that. The issue at hand was that I left a message box on the top of a community de-adminship poll, asking people to read the statements made on the page because I legitimately found them to be informative, whether you were for or against whatever the issue was. I didn't think of a good way to phrase it so it came out sounding sarcastic or as though I was pushing my view (I ended up voting oppose). Jusdafax raised a very valid point but raised it so flippantly (or at least I perceived it that way) that I took it personally. Thus it led to what is probably (I hope) my only public breakdown on Wikipedia. Have I learned from this? Absolutely. First of all, I shouldn't have even put the message box up, having taken sides in the issue. That I did it at all makes me think "what the hell was I thinking," since it was February 2010 and I definitely knew better. Secondly, as the operator of four bots, all of which edit Wikipedia regularly and play a key role in certain processes, I regularly have to put up with bot dysfunction, people wanting new features, people just not getting how the bot works, etc., which can indeed get very stressful. Yet usually, I know how to manage that stress, to channel it into getting underlying problems solved. When I don't, I end up like myself in the link, and it's a powerful reminder that if I do not check myself, I will wreck myself. I do not want to be the kind of person that explodes every time I get upset, and I definitely do not want to be that kind of arbitrator.
 * Thank you for the answer. I'm glad that you realize that the message box did indeed sound to many of us as though it were sarcastic, and I'm grateful to find out that this had not been your intention. At the risk of telling you what I'm pretty sure you already know, what Jusdafax asked you was pretty mild compared to what an Arbitrator is likely to hear daily. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:59, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Question from Timotheus Canens: Since March 2010, according to X!'s edit counter, you have generally made less than 100 edits per month, except for August (104 edits). Can you explain the cause of that inactivity, and why or why not we should be concerned about your activity levels if you are elected? T. Canens (talk) 16:25, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * A: I wouldn't say that I am inactive, just that I do not edit as often. I still have my finger on the pulse &mdash; I check my watchlist several times a day, and I respond more-or-less promptly to talk page messages. However, while I understand that there is always work to be done, I haven't yet found my next big thing to do on Wikipedia. As a result, I edit less frequently.
 * 1) Question from ScienceApologist: Please respond to this criticism: "Harej is more involved and comfortable with the social-network aspects of Wikipedia rather than with the encyclopedia-creation aspects." ScienceApologist (talk) 20:34, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * A: I agree that my content contribution here has been fairly pitiful, with my lengthy time here resulting in only a few DYKs and two GAs which were delisted anyway. I wouldn't describe my involvement here as social networking, though. When I see "Wikipedia" and "social networking" I think of Esperanza, which I was never a member of and I supported dismantling when that discussion came up in December 2006. Since around 2008, my involvement has been largely bot-related. While it is tangential to content creation, it is not entirely detached. My role has been to make existing processes easier &mdash; processes which have a role in the development of the encyclopedia, such as RFC and good article nominations. It's not encyclopedia writing, regrettably, but it's not "social networking" either.
 * 1) Question from  Skomorokh  : Your statement and answers give a good indication as to your skillset, experience and perspective on the project. What I would like to know is as follows: what is your primary motivation for standing in this election?
 * A: Between my nomination statement and the two pages where I answered questions, I have used the phrase collegial editing environment several times. This is what I believe in. I can either stand at the sidelines and ask the editors to stop fighting, or I can dive in and actually try to make a difference. That is what I wish to accomplish.
 * 1) Question from Offliner. You said one of your focus ares in ArbCom would be interacting with the community on public pages. Do you think the ArbCom's response time to questions from the community and from the arbitration case participants has been sufficient in the past? What do you think is a fair response time? Is there some specific time limit which you would personally promise to follow, such as "I will answer all questions within X days"? Offliner (talk) 00:01, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * A: I will admit that I do not follow ArbCom communications closely, so I wouldn't know if their response time has been fast enough. I think a fair response time depends on how contentious a situation is, which is why I do not believe there is some fixed gold standard for response time. If ArbCom responds such that certain unanswered but important questions are answered before a situation gets further out of hand, then the response time is fast enough. Of course, ArbCom should not sacrifice quality for expediency.
 * 1) Question: I've assembled a set of questions for the 12 candidates listed here. The questions are intended to see how you would respond to situations you will probably encounter if elected. I've picked one question for each candidate listed at the link above; the other questions can be seen here. Please feel free to answer only the selected question below, or all of them if you chose. Your question is what would you do in the following situation?: "Parties to cases post repeatedly to your talk page, and/or e-mail you and/or the mailing list". Carcharoth (talk) 05:20, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 * A: I see two potential consequences to that happening. First, that those who are "overcommunicating" will be inadvertently given greater weight in my deliberation than appropriate compared to those who do not repeatedly send me messages, since the constant communication will cause them to remain salient in my mind. Secondly, that through their repetitive messaging I will grow to be annoyed with them and then I won't be as fair. (Note here that I am giving considerable weight to the word "repeatedly" as given in the scenario, and am assuming that it is to such an extent that it is a nuisance and unproductive. In typical situations I obviously don't mind people communicating with me or posting to the mailing list.) Being someone who prefers to be polite, I could remind them that repetitiveness would not help their cause and in worst case scenarios I can ignore them. I personally wouldn't take action (i.e. block) since I could be seen as "involved." Of course, I will do my best to make decisions based on the facts and not how much a party annoys me. (In case where I could not possibly make a fair decision, then I probably would have recused.)