Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2015/Candidates/Kudpung/Questions

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Questions from Gerda Arendt
Thank you for stepping forward!
 * Excuse me for asking, I would like how you evaluate a consensus, this is just an example, but not any example because the arb findings which have to be applied are quoted in a comment.
 * I would like you to have a look at my suggestions to make AE a bit more bearable, link supplied. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I would like you to have a look at my suggestions to make AE a bit more bearable, link supplied. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I would like you to have a look at my suggestions to make AE a bit more bearable, link supplied. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Questions from Leaky

 * Resp: Certainly not. I have never given cause for anyone to throw their food or beer at me. Leaky  Caldron  13:38, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Please repair the damage you have done to the format of this page, and remove your arrogant demand from the answer box. Thanks.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:03, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Not for the first time Kudpung, you've jumped to the wrong conclusion. The "arrogant demand" is created by the markup syntax we are required to use when placing questions for candidates. Maybe someone with greater technical knowledge than me can sort out the "damage"? There is an existing discussion elsewhere regarding the candidate markup issues. As for your message on my talk page, forget it. I know the answer. By the way, I am responding here in continued obedience to your talk page ban you dished out because I annoyed you a couple of years ago - as you do with anyone who disagrees with you and your view of WP:RFA. Continually describing those with whom you disgree as a "brigade" and "trolls" doesn't sound like a balanced viewpoint. It comes across, as others have commented, verging on a breach of WP:NPA. Leaky  Caldron  10:08, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Kudpung, this wasn't Leaky's fault. I went ahead and repaired the formatting.—cyberpower  Chat:Online 16:01, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Please repair the damage you have done to the format of this page, and remove your arrogant demand from the answer box. Thanks.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:03, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Not for the first time Kudpung, you've jumped to the wrong conclusion. The "arrogant demand" is created by the markup syntax we are required to use when placing questions for candidates. Maybe someone with greater technical knowledge than me can sort out the "damage"? There is an existing discussion elsewhere regarding the candidate markup issues. As for your message on my talk page, forget it. I know the answer. By the way, I am responding here in continued obedience to your talk page ban you dished out because I annoyed you a couple of years ago - as you do with anyone who disagrees with you and your view of WP:RFA. Continually describing those with whom you disgree as a "brigade" and "trolls" doesn't sound like a balanced viewpoint. It comes across, as others have commented, verging on a breach of WP:NPA. Leaky  Caldron  10:08, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Kudpung, this wasn't Leaky's fault. I went ahead and repaired the formatting.—cyberpower  Chat:Online 16:01, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Questions from Guerillero
Thank you for running for the hardest and most thankless job on the project. Many of these questions are sourced from actual cases, discussions, and problems over the past year. Enjoy!

Insider Baseball

 * Baseball_in_England Marteau (talk) 10:28, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your comment, but this is not the venue to use your hammer for splitting hairs.--Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:29, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * If he had said something like "We do not play sitar in England" would you have complained about my correcting his misstatement? Would you not perceive that as dismissive (and perhaps indicating contempt) of sitar players? Some of us take baseball seriously, and where it occurs around the world is of interest to some of us, and when it is blithely and cheerfully dismissed in such a manner, a brief correction is completely appropriate.  Furthermore, words have meaning, and his little show of off-the-cuff contempt for the baseball players of England, as a misstatement and as demonstrably incorrect and misleading, demonstrates his editorial style and commenting style, making my brief correction completely appropriate her considering this forum is intended to put the candidate under the proverbial microscope.Marteau (talk) 11:01, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * If he had said something like "We do not play sitar in England" would you have complained about my correcting his misstatement? Would you not perceive that as dismissive (and perhaps indicating contempt) of sitar players? Some of us take baseball seriously, and where it occurs around the world is of interest to some of us, and when it is blithely and cheerfully dismissed in such a manner, a brief correction is completely appropriate.  Furthermore, words have meaning, and his little show of off-the-cuff contempt for the baseball players of England, as a misstatement and as demonstrably incorrect and misleading, demonstrates his editorial style and commenting style, making my brief correction completely appropriate her considering this forum is intended to put the candidate under the proverbial microscope.Marteau (talk) 11:01, 6 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Update: user:Marteau was put under the proverbial micrpscope and indef blocked. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:45, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Question from Worm That Turned

 * Thanks for answering Kudpung. I knew the answer anyway, but didn't want you to get away without the question! WormTT(talk) 13:52, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for answering Kudpung. I knew the answer anyway, but didn't want you to get away without the question! WormTT(talk) 13:52, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Questions from Epipelagic

 * You haven't answered the question Kudpung. I mentioned nothing about "blatant lies, innuendo, veiled PA, and issues taken deliberately out of context to discredit a fellow editor or admin". Is that string of ugly terms just an attempt at smearing?
 * But that is incoherent. And why have you repeated the irrelevant nonsense you posted in your response to the first question?
 * Again, you haven't answered the question. And you've repeated that irrelevant nonsense for a third time, word for word. Perhaps something is wrong with your computer. If you are confused enough to think the diff you gave is, in context, an example of incivility then it is really time for you to relinquish your adminship.
 * But that is incoherent. And why have you repeated the irrelevant nonsense you posted in your response to the first question?
 * Again, you haven't answered the question. And you've repeated that irrelevant nonsense for a third time, word for word. Perhaps something is wrong with your computer. If you are confused enough to think the diff you gave is, in context, an example of incivility then it is really time for you to relinquish your adminship.
 * Again, you haven't answered the question. And you've repeated that irrelevant nonsense for a third time, word for word. Perhaps something is wrong with your computer. If you are confused enough to think the diff you gave is, in context, an example of incivility then it is really time for you to relinquish your adminship.

Questions from GrammarFascist

 * Thanks for responding, . For the record, I consider this process as much an election as a job application, and political candidates' demographic markers are usually considered fair game, even in countries where such considerations can't be used as a basis for hiring decisions. — GrammarFascist  contribs talk 01:38, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * With all due respect,, I don't doubt that your question is made in good faith and you may even have asked it of other candidates who might have answered more fully, but Wikipedia is a voluntary organisation, not a job for which we are being interviewed. Such lines of questioning are expressly illegal in many civilised, democraric constitutions (if I recal correctly they were/are typical of fascist and other extremist regimes), and in my opinion are treading very closely on thr bounds of the permissible here. Whether I get elected or not, there will be an official enquiry into the questioning strategies and tactics used in the Arbcom Election's current format. Thank you for your interest in the way Wikipedia is managed. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:17, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for responding, . For the record, I consider this process as much an election as a job application, and political candidates' demographic markers are usually considered fair game, even in countries where such considerations can't be used as a basis for hiring decisions. — GrammarFascist  contribs talk 01:38, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * With all due respect,, I don't doubt that your question is made in good faith and you may even have asked it of other candidates who might have answered more fully, but Wikipedia is a voluntary organisation, not a job for which we are being interviewed. Such lines of questioning are expressly illegal in many civilised, democraric constitutions (if I recal correctly they were/are typical of fascist and other extremist regimes), and in my opinion are treading very closely on thr bounds of the permissible here. Whether I get elected or not, there will be an official enquiry into the questioning strategies and tactics used in the Arbcom Election's current format. Thank you for your interest in the way Wikipedia is managed. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:17, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * With all due respect,, I don't doubt that your question is made in good faith and you may even have asked it of other candidates who might have answered more fully, but Wikipedia is a voluntary organisation, not a job for which we are being interviewed. Such lines of questioning are expressly illegal in many civilised, democraric constitutions (if I recal correctly they were/are typical of fascist and other extremist regimes), and in my opinion are treading very closely on thr bounds of the permissible here. Whether I get elected or not, there will be an official enquiry into the questioning strategies and tactics used in the Arbcom Election's current format. Thank you for your interest in the way Wikipedia is managed. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:17, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Question from Brustopher
Hi, and thank you for running for Arbcom. These questions focus on WP:OUTING. For the purposes of these questions please assume the editors' usernames are far more distinct and unique than the ones I have given.

Question from Wbm1058

 * Thanks. I see the relevant policy is OTRS/Activity policy. Wbm1058 (talk) 15:03, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Interesting to note that I dd not receive any of those various warning of closure of my ORTS acount. I thought it was a bit abrupt while I was actually in the middle of resolving a case, but I'm not particularly disapointed with not having the OTRS access - I have plenty to keep me busy as an admin on Wikpedia,and particuarly offline with my outreach work (which of course I would have to throttle back if I were elected here). --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:00, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Interesting to note that I dd not receive any of those various warning of closure of my ORTS acount. I thought it was a bit abrupt while I was actually in the middle of resolving a case, but I'm not particularly disapointed with not having the OTRS access - I have plenty to keep me busy as an admin on Wikpedia,and particuarly offline with my outreach work (which of course I would have to throttle back if I were elected here). --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:00, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Question from SageRad
Hi, KudPung. Thank you for running for the position, i know it takes a lot of personal time and effort.

Questions from Ryk72
Thank you for stepping forward; your commitment to serving the community is greatly appreciated.

Please accept my apologies for the lateness of these questions.

Many thanks in advance for any answers. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 15:29, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Questions by Ihardlythinkso

 * My followup was not a "rewording" - it was based off your previous response. Plus, by not being forthcoming to explain diffs you offered (BTW how can that particular sub-question possibly qualify as a "rewording"??), and trying to answer a question with a question, you are demo'ing to me that you not only will continue to use the phrase as an intimidation/aspersion weapon, but that is the status quo that you like to keep. By dodging my followup Q with ad hominems, do you think that helps your candidacy?! You might as well say in your candidate statement that you are an advocate of polarizations between reg editors and admins. That seems to serve a personal agenda Kudpung, as I don't see any admin other than you doing same. IHTS (talk) 07:20, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I follow, but do not understand your agenda - but you are not on trial here. I think perhaps you should look for a dictionary definition of the expressions you appear to be misusing here. As long as I do not clearly associate any particular individual with an identifiable archetype or excrement stirrer, I will firmly continue to do so. Anyone who feels addressed by it will find themselves reddening around the collar and that's their problem not mine - at least until they are brought before the Committee for something or other. Let's invite the potential voters to visit your user page list and see if they find it a) interesting, b) polarising, c) divisive, d) as having any possible anti-admin connotations. e) useful towards helping users have confidence in their elected peers. Have the last word again if you will. You usually do. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:25, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * You're essentially admitting what I've concluded (you want status quo whereby you continue to use the phrase as aspersion weapon to polarize and potentially offend). Not good (not even consistent w/ conduct standard for admin, let alone arb candidate), Kudpung. This isn't about me, as you mention ... but then go on to contradict by throwing all manner of accuses and attempt to disparage and bait a catfight, right here in your arb Q & A! How pugnacious. (And how sensible, Kudpung??) IHTS (talk) 22:27, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * You can rest assured, that as an Arbcom member, I would press for the severest sanctions for anyone who comes to a page with blatant lies, innuendo, veiled PA, issues taken deliberately out of context to discredit a fellow editor or admin, or attempts to start flame wars. Whether I get elected or not, there will be an official enquiry into the questioning strategies and tactics used in the Arbcom Election's current format. Thank you for your interest in the way Wikipedia is managed. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:41, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Spooky, . (Is this an amateur-volunteer encyclopedia-building website? Or some wrong-turn horror-dungeon roleplay game?) IHTS (talk) 05:26, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * You can rest assured, that as an Arbcom member, I would press for the severest sanctions for anyone who comes to a page with blatant lies, innuendo, veiled PA, issues taken deliberately out of context to discredit a fellow editor or admin, or attempts to start flame wars. Whether I get elected or not, there will be an official enquiry into the questioning strategies and tactics used in the Arbcom Election's current format. Thank you for your interest in the way Wikipedia is managed. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:41, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Spooky, . (Is this an amateur-volunteer encyclopedia-building website? Or some wrong-turn horror-dungeon roleplay game?) IHTS (talk) 05:26, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Question from Dcs002



 * Third-party comment (by User:Leaky caldron) moved to Kudpung's discussion page as this page is only for questions and candidate's answers. THEowner of a l l 20:51, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Questions from LeoRomero
Thanks; LeoRomero (talk) 00:35, 24 November 2015 (UTC

Following the instructions as queried by Kudpung กุดผึ้ง and according to THEowner of a l l see above. --Riverstogo (talk) 01:09, 1 December 2015 (UTC)