Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2017/Candidates/Sir Joseph/Questions

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Question from Carrite

 * Just to add, that I think a comment like this would not be appropriate on Wikipedia,, I don't think I have my religion specified on my userpage, I might have it on one of my subpages, but I'm not sure nor does it matter. I also don't find what my religion has to do with my candidacy for Arbcom. Did you investigate the religion of the other candidates? Sir Joseph (talk) 18:23, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * We can agree about one thing — I don't give a flying fuck about your religion nor does it matter a molecule. Carrite (talk) 02:11, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * We can agree about one thing — I don't give a flying fuck about your religion nor does it matter a molecule. Carrite (talk) 02:11, 16 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Since we're playing Linky-Dinky-Do, HERE is something which actually is posted on Wiki that says the same exact thing with colorful pictures. Carrite (talk) 02:16, 16 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Also, if we're gonna be importing links to my posts on Wikipediocracy, I much prefer THIS ONE. Carrite (talk) 02:21, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * So why mention my religion?Sir Joseph (talk) 02:30, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Why do you? Carrite (talk) 18:42, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I mentioned my religion on my candidacy statement? Do you really not understand how wrong it is when you have 4 candidates, and only one gets mentioned as a Jew? If you were looking at my userboxes that I've had since 2005, you could have pulled out lots of other interesting facts about me. But pulling out the Jewish card is not a thing that people do. Sir Joseph (talk) 19:20, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Funny that you get so worked up about somebody mentioning your self-declared ethnicity but don't have the least problem with my assessment of your self-declared politics, your self-declared urban origins, your self-declared place of residency, or, most tellingly, my assessment of the content warriorism demonstrated by your voluminous block log. If you don't want to march under a particular flag, stop waving the banner on Wiki. QED. Carrite (talk) 01:48, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * That's because location or politics is usually not the item mentioned by antisemites. I can't believe you are so unaware of that. And to address your even more offensive statement, where am I waving a banner around Wiki proclaiming my Jewishness?Sir Joseph (talk) 01:52, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The same place you are proclaiming your right wing politics, your Greater New York background, your Jersey residency, and your aspiration of being a clarinetist. It drives you crazy not to have the last word in an exchange on wiki, doesn't it? Carrite (talk) 14:03, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't mind not having the last word. I just don't like antisemitic comments and I have the right to address it. Your comments are antisemitic. Whether you mean it or not is not the issue, I already told you how it comes off and the decent thing to do would be to modify your comment when told that it is most often used in an antisemitic purpose. Sir Joseph (talk) 14:17, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Did you just call me an anti-Semite? Carrite (talk) 17:16, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * No, I didn't. I thought you want to stop this back and forth. I won't be responding to any other comments unless it requires a response. Sir Joseph (talk) 17:21, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think we can all agree that this sort of back and forth sparring is non-collegial and sub-optimum. best, —tim /// Carrite (talk) 20:56, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Question from Stormy clouds



 * I must take further umbrage with your response,, as it does not adequately address my concerns. You have continued to, in the complete absence of evidence, accuse me of bias. The casual retort offered by you indicates that you did not conduct a thorough review of the incident to which I have referred, which is indicative in my view of a lack of engagement on your behalf. Your inability or unwillingness to assess evidence at this stage does not instill belief in me about your competence for the job. Moreover, the non-answer regarding your disrespect for newer editors persists as a problematic issue. The problem was not that I was not allowed to vote, as I was entirely allowed to do so at ITN/C, despite my lack of EC privileges. It was that you cited this as a reason for disregarding my opinion because you disagreed with me. Having exhausted all efforts at logically deconstructing my argument, and still facing rebukes from me, you resorted to using your seniority as a reason to demean me. It was, and remains, the only time that I have seen such an effort to shut down a newer editor who was not a SPA in ITN/C. To me, this demonstrates a lack of regard for newer editors, regardless of their devotion to the project, and an attempted abuse of perceived power. It also is an incident which is a demonstrable case of hostility and incivility, something touched upon by an IP editor in the thread. So, given your lack of engagement with my question and the fact that my personal experiences with you do not convey confidence in your ability to act admirably at ARBCOM, why should I, or any other editor for that matter, divest power to you? Therefore, I will pose the question again. Was your behaviour towards me anomalous, or can we expect further such incidents if you are elected to ARBCOM? Stormy clouds (talk) 20:54, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll answer even though it's clear you're not interested. Nobody discounted your opinion. I just mentioned that it might be problematic to have an EC issue. You also unmarked when you were involved. I also said the following: " I am trying to AGF but it's hard to not think that there is a bias among people who are opposing the mention on the front page." That is my only mention of bias on that page. This reflects poorly on you, not me and that is one reason why I didn't link to it. Sir Joseph (talk) 21:40, 4 December 2017 (UTC)