Wikipedia:Archived articles for deletion discussions/2004 June 16

This page is an archive of the discussion surrounding the proposed deletion of many pages.

This page is kept as an historic record.

The results of these debates were to delete the relevant articles.

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Building A Computer
a partial how-to guide, not an encyclopedia entry. Maximus Rex 03:17, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Kill it, DIY guides are not encyclopaedic. It might, however, be a good idea to link to sites offering such guides on the personal computer page or somewhere similar, or maybe even change it to a more encyclopaedic article on the phenomenon/hobby of building PCs and put links there. StuartH 04:42, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * DIE, DIE, DIE! blankfaze | &#8226;�&#8226; 05:10, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Move to Wikibooks and delete. Johnleemk | Talk 11:14, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Boiler Efficiency and Caliculation Routines
From Cleanup: Boiler Efficiency and Caliculation Routines technical manual for some boiler. (moved from Cleanup by SimonP)
 * Caliculation Routines is a general prescription for assessing boiler efficiency. It turns out that this is a topic of substantial practical importance as many large buildings have one. However the article as it stands doesn't make an encyclopedia article -- move to Wikibooks but do not delete. Boiler Efficiency is copied in part from  and I suspect the remainder is copied from elsewhere as well (it says "Author: DSCL Energy Services" at the top of the article). I'm guessing that User:Kaupp who contributed these is an engineering student in India. That's awesome, we just need to focus his/her efforts. Wile E. Heresiarch 14:18, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Brian Hickey
From Cleanup: Brian Hickey - 9/11 victim (moved from Cleanup by SimonP)
 * Move to Memorial and delete. Johnleemk | Talk 15:10, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Move to memorial, possibly an interwiki-redirect. JFW | T@lk  15:20, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Move to Memorial and delete. Jeversol 18:41, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Move and delete - T&#949;x  &#964;  ur&#949;  18:42, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Predator (Mike Carlton)
A google search shows hits for a Mike Carlton who's a radio host and newspaper columnist in Sydney, but I'm not sure if this is the same guy. Meelar 13:46, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * I put this page up. He's not the same guy.--XmarkX 13:53, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification. I'm not sure he's notable enough; no offense meant, though--I hope you continue your work.  You seem to have been quite productive here since you arrived.  Best, Meelar 14:07, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you are completely right, I guess. Looking at it objectively, and looking at some other vfd entries, he's not an encyclopedic candidate. So I vote to delete my own creation! Ironically enough, the real guy is being buried tomorrow morning.--XmarkX 14:11, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * How mature of you. I wish that most vfd discussions were this civil! - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 15:25, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
 * Sorry about your loss. Seems harsh to say that I agree he's probably not notable enough. If and when this page is deleted, don't forget to delete the link from Predator. --Woggly 06:46, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

List of Spanish Verbs

 * Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Fredrik (talk) 19:00, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * No, but Wiktionary is. Esta est una dictionaire espanol?Denn i 01:29, 2004 Jun 12 (UTC)
 * Delete - No little squiggly required. - T&#949;x  &#964;  ur&#949;  19:44, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. WINA(S)D. DJ Clayworth 21:01, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Aggemam
Obscure Danish slang term. --Smack 17:33, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Fixed the vfd header which wasn't inserted properly. for future reference, it's just {'{vfd}}'''.  Delete, I guess.  blankfaze | &#8226;�&#8226; 17:55, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Niteowlneils 18:30, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - I can't see any encyclopedic value. - Taxman 12:24, Jun 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * I thought this had been deleted before. Delete. -- Cyrius|&#9998; 06:33, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Dossier

 * Dicdef. Lady Lysine Ikinsile 11:40, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
 * Transwiki'd to Wiktionary, so delete. Angela. 11:46, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Already transwikied. Delete. -- Cyrius|&#9998; 06:23, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Paul Gentle and Daisy Mctavish

 * Non-notable blog stuff. Rmhermen 14:50, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 15:05, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - T&#949;x  &#964;  ur&#949;  22:26, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I thought this was very amusing - perhaps people have missed the point? I suspect it is a very English type of humour.

Morsels
Dicdef, cannot see any potential here... - Lady Lysine Ikinsile 17:01, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
 * Pointless, delete. Wyllium 20:30, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Not even a good dicdef. Delete. -- Cyrius|&#9998; 06:32, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Alcopunk
This looks like a neologism (see google), and therefore not something that should be in an encyclopedia. Thue 20:29, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Comment: Unsure. I have heard this term used elswhere, despite its poor Google showing. But this isn't a good stub IMO. It seems to be part of a network of edits by user:Pepus, who seems to be a fan, manager or member of Destyl, allegedly an alcopunk band. The punk rock articles in general seem to be a hotbed of advertising and autobiography in fact. Andrewa 21:04, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * I tried googling for Destyl punk, and found enough hits (in Czech, so I am not sure how relevant they are) not to list them on vfd. Thue 21:16, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. I listen to a fair amount of punk, and have never heard this term before.  Frankly, it sounds like Destyl coined a term for their music, then claimed a well-known band as a fellow member of the genre.  A google search for "The Casualties" + alcopunk gets zero hits. Isomorphic 02:17, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Cingoz the Saint Cat
No idea what this is. No google hits. Thue 20:49, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Should have been speedly deleted. Delete now.  RickK 21:17, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
 * I voted delete as well, but my original vote seems to have vanished. Second time's a charm. - Lucky 6.9 22:18, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * And my vote to delete disappeared, too. Joyous 22:20, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
 * I had to revert to an earlier version of VfD because the page was duplicated. See the Talk page.  RickK 22:23, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
 * For once, I agree--this was speed worthy. Meelar 05:18, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Cingoz the Saint Cat caused the delete votes of the nonbelievers to disappear. However, with the protection of the power of Ralph the Holy Budgie, I declare this article deleted. Denn i 02:55, 2004 Jun 12 (UTC)

Revolt of the Three Feudatories
Sub-stub. (This listing was submitted by User:Jredmond. SWAdair | Talk  03:39, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC))
 * Keep. Checking the linked-to article indicates this one has definite potential.  SWAdair | Talk  03:39, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Obviously someone ought to write an article (or at least a stub) on this subject, but as it is now, it's worse to have this sub-stub than it would be just to not have an article. Delete (for now). john k 19:00, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. The content (if there ever is any) should be covered in Qing dynasty. Fire Star 01:03, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. I agree with john k.--Woggly 10:33, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Venezart

 * Delete - advert for advertising - "For more information visit us @ http://www.venezart.com" - T&#949;x  &#964;  ur&#949;  03:16, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * It doesn't get more blatant than that. Delete advert.  SWAdair | Talk  04:07, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, clearly promotional, no encyclopedic value that I can discern. If you remove the promotional language, you are left with "Venezart is a web design company." Dpbsmith 15:04, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Creed of Transcendentalism Today

 * Delete - The creed of a new religion (founded 2002). Technically POV, I suppose. Jorge Stolfi 03:31, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Inherently POV. I'm not familiar enough with the subject matter to make a definite call, but it looks like one person's viewpoint, probably not properly representative of the subject.  Oh, and kill it before those red-links multiply.  Delete.  SWAdair | Talk  04:20, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep- Transcendentalism Today has expanded rapidly worldwide. (14,100 sites) See http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Transcendentalism+Today Kurt Kawohl
 * Put quotes around "Transcendentalism Today" in the query, and those 14100 Google hits become 849, mainly automatic echos of Kurt Kawohl's posts. I now extend my "delete" vote to everything connected to this vanity cult. Jorge Stolfi 00:30, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I HAVE DELETED IT.Kurt
 * Posted by creator = self-promotion = Isomorphic votes to delete. Isomorphic 01:45, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * I love it when you refer to yourself in the third person. Seriously, delete all before this, uh, spiritual belief becomes the next Shawn Mikula or Robert Kyle Wilson debacle.  Or even Bunboy. - Lucky 6.9 02:55, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - user has blanked page and indicated desire to delete article as well - T&#949;x  &#964;  ur&#949;  17:16, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Sorry for my incompetence in incorrectly phrasing what Transcendentalism today stands for. I assure you that Transcendentalism is not a new cult or a new religion; it is an attempted rationality at religion.

Tenebrous
Dicdef -- Jmabel 06:16, Jun 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * Wiktionary. &#9758;spencer195 06:18, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Johnleemk | Talk 09:41, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. DJ Clayworth 18:31, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fire Star 01:06, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Adjective. anthony (see warning) 10:06, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Bulghur burger
Recipe with no other redeming value. has been transwikied to wikibooks. Gentgeen 06:22, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * I see no article there, and no record of an article being deleted. -- Cyrius|&#9998; 07:02, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * I have seen more deleted articles with no record of deletion. - T&#949;x  &#964;  ur&#949;  15:18, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * oops, typo. The link should work now. Gentgeen 22:28, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, recipe has been transwikied, no other content. -- Cyrius|&#9998; 05:21, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Manbaby Fiestabadger 5
Hacker escapade. Looks non-encyclopedic to me. -- Jmabel 06:41, Jun 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * Agree. Delete. SWAdair | Talk  08:35, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Funny. Delete and BJAODN? Johnleemk | Talk 09:42, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. I barely even understand what this is about, and I'm not sure I think it funny at all; nor is this useful information outside of a particular clique. --Woggly 11:30, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not funny either. Average Earthman 11:56, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * This isn't a blog page. Speedy delete if possible. - Lucky 6.9 16:21, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hb0da
Non-notable IRC channel. Is there an appropriate place to merge or should this simply be deleted? SWAdair | Talk 07:57, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, probably. Looks non-notable. --Woggly 11:27, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete it. Johnleemk | Talk 09:43, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Large-scale
Dicdef sub stub -- Graham :) | Talk 10:43, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Could possibly be interesting if content were added, but not as it stands.--Woggly 11:25, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. -- EuroTom 10:53, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Cap'n Jaspers
Though I could be wrong, this doesn't look noteworthy. Not brilliant prose, either. Fredrik (talk) 13:46, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Seems like an advert, esp. since it's "just a shack behind the glassworks". Meelar 14:01, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Reads like an ad, most google hits aren't "real". Delete. -- Cyrius|&#9998; 21:02, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Frisee hall of champions
Doesn't make sense, or even define its terms. Cleanup was no help. DJ Clayworth 17:19, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Well, for starters, I moved it to Frisbee hall of champions, which was what was obviously intended. -- Jmabel 17:29, Jun 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - It is just a list of links. Is it going to be an article or just a link repository.  (The links don't even exist yet.) -  T&#949;x  &#964;  ur&#949;  17:58, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * I think it's intended to be a list. Keep, possibly rename. Meelar 19:57, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: I went searching for the winners/hall of famers, and Marc Fishman, e.g. shows up only as an RPG master or as a (dead, I think) actor.  Is there a single Frisbee body?  Which one made this hall of champions, and what was the contest? I thought there were multiple Frisbee sports with multiple tournaments. Geogre 01:37, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, unverified/able. -- Cyrius|&#9998; 05:18, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Blogumentary
Blatant self-promotion. Unless someone wants to rewrite as an appropriate article, delete. -- Jmabel 19:15, Jun 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - T&#949;x  &#964;  ur&#949;  19:22, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete self-promotion -- Cyrius|&#9998; 20:17, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Buddha Quest

 * Advert for a MMORPG which so far consists of a few posts on a web forum. -- DrBob 20:13, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete ad for non-existent game. -- Cyrius|&#9998; 20:42, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * No game, no article. I like the simple decisions in life. - Lucky 6.9 21:38, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Calculating the day of the week/Temp
Calculating the day of the week already has this content. Found this as orphan. --Jiang 21:07, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Cody Barker
Votes for deletion/Cody Barker

Spirituality in The 21st Century
Votes for deletion/Spirituality in The 21st Century

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