Wikipedia:Archived articles for deletion discussions/2004 June 18

This page is an archive of the discussion surrounding the proposed deletion of many pages.

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The results of these debates were to delete the relevant articles.

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Michael Swindells
Expand or delete. A British policeman killed in the line of duty. Not inherently encyclopedia-worthy on that basis, but there could be potential if someone knows something that is not in the (stub) article as it stands. -- Jmabel 20:27, Jun 3, 2004 (UTC)
 * merge with others, list of British policemen killed on duty? including WPC Yvonne Fletcher, and the two guys that were killed near me a while ago. Dunc_Harris|&#9786; 20:34, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC) - info source at  Dunc_Harris|&#9786; 20:52, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. If there was actually a list of police officers killed in the line of duty then move it their I guess.  But I don't really think we need such a list and I know we don't need an article on every one of them.  Non-notable. --Starx 04:50, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Agree with Jmabel. Quite a few hits on Google, but seems to be local (UK) interest. Rossumcapek 15:02, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * delete, nonfamous --Jiang 03:45, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)

CrypTool
Open-source software, the author posted the work. Seems insignificant for Wikipedia, but I would suggest move to openfacts. Needs tidy anyway. Dunc_Harris|&#9786; 20:34, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC) So the text I posted is released into the public domain. What does "moving to openfacts" mean? What else do you need from me? Thanks for your help to me as a Wikipedia beginner. Best regards, Bernhard (User BE in Wikipedia) Bernhard 12:12, 4 Jun 2004 (CET).
 * Note we can't move to openfacts unless the author releases it into the public domain. Dunc_Harris|&#9786; 20:47, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Have emailed the author. Dunc_Harris|&#9786; 21:08, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * The software, the tutorials and the scripts are all open source, build by many people all over the world, mainly now coming from universities. It's used in many courses to get students a practical experience on how cryptography and cryptanalysis works.

Celtic Frost/Temp
There's an article at Celtic Frost. This is just a discography. --Jiang 21:07, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Is Celtic Frost still a copyvio? - T&#949;x  &#964;  ur&#949;  22:06, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Transcendentalism Today
Appears to be an attempt to promote a one-man "religion", by the religion's founder. These links may be relevant:  Jorge Stolfi 01:02, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * That cinches it for me. Close your eyes, assume the lotus position and repeat after me:  Deeeeleeeete...there!  Don't we feel better? - Lucky 6.9 02:51, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Self-promotion -> Isomorphic votes to delete. Isomorphic 03:06, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - for above reasons - T&#949;x  &#964;  ur&#949;  14:22, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fire Star 14:44, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Sorry for my incompetence in incorrectly phrasing what Transcendentalism today stands for. I assure you that Transcendentalism is not a new cult or a new religion; it is an attempted rationality at religion.
 * I WILL DELETE.Kurt
 * I notice that you have blanked Transcendentalism Today, The Cumulative Progressive Spiritual Intelligence of the Universe, and Creed of Transcendentalism Today. As policy they will be reverted or at least have the VfD tag restored. -  T&#949;x  &#964;  ur&#949;  17:03, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Welcome back to Wikipedia, Kurt. We still remember you from the last time you tried to promote your creed here. Delete. DJ Clayworth 19:07, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that if the author blanked the article (clearly wishing his desire for deletion), nobody else added to it and nobody has voted to keep it, then to retain this article for the full duration of VfD is sticking to the letter of the law for the sake of it. I suggest speedy deletion in 24hrs unless someone objects before then. DJ Clayworth 21:09, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Harry Potter and the death of Harry Potter

 * Stub for fanfiction. Rmhermen 16:48, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - T&#949;x  &#964;  ur&#949;  16:58, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Shameless advert. Andrewa 17:47, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. RickK 22:41, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. --Aaron Einstein 00:19, Jun 12, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete with extreme prejudice. &mdash;Stormie 02:04, Jun 12, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. -- Aaron Hill 05:48, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable shameless advertising. If it were a famous parody of Potter, maybe. But it isn't, so kill it quickly. PMC 06:39, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. I agree with the above.--Woggly 07:00, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Did anyone look at the actual story? Presented below is the opening: john k 18:55, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * In the dawn's light of Hogwarts, Harry Potter was waking up to another ordinary day of Hogwarts, or as some nerds would say, "HOGWARTS SCHOOL OF WITCHCRAFT AND WIZARDRY." Some smart people might call it, "HOGWARTS ACADEMY OF UNSCIENTIFIC SHIT".
 * The newest admission to the school, Niock Frederick, who kicked nerdy asses, was looking for a fresh nerd.
 * Harry looked over his shoulder and saw Ron and said, "let's be gay!"
 * "No! You're a fricken nerd, I'm not gay like you, humping trees every day." Ron said.


 * Delete! Giving fanfic a bad name! -- Rissa 18:57, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Rename to Anti-Harry Potter movement and expand into a more general page. Voyager640 12:33, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete with extreme prejudice. --Phil | Talk 14:48, Jun 16, 2004 (UTC)

The Cumulative Progressive Spiritual Intelligence of the Universe
Either merge into Transcendentalism Today or delete outright. -- Jmabel 18:56, Jun 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - T&#949;x  &#964;  ur&#949;  19:21, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep - Why should it be deleted? Should Brahman be combined with Hinduism?  Just because the subject doesn't fit into your world view, does that make it unsuitable for Wikipedia?  Is it inaccurate?  Does it misrepresent the views of Transcendentalism Today (of which, BTW, I know absolutely nothing about)?  Can you state a guiding principle, that when applied to this article justifies its removal?  If not,  I say keep.  --Samuel Wantman 19:23, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I WILL DELETE.Kurt
 * Keep- Transcendentalism Today has expanded rapidly worldwide. (14,100 sites) See http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Transcendentalism+Today Kurt Kawohl
 * Delete. Put quotes around "Transcendentalism Today" in the query, and those 14100 Google hits become 849, mainly automatic echos of Kurt Kawohl's posts. (I had proposed to delete the Creed page only, now I think that all of them should go.)Jorge Stolfi 00:33, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * 'Delete. Not encyclopedic - SimonP 02:44, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete self-promotion. Isomorphic 03:34, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Just another wannabe philosophy. Denn i 05:57, 2004 Jun 11 (UTC)
 * Sorry for my incompetence in incorrectly phrasing what Transcendentalism today stands for. I assure you that Transcendentalism is not a new cult or a new religion; it is an attempted rationality at religion.

Naplese, Naplese Langua Franca, Nova Lingua de Napleseo
By same author as Vari etc. Appears to be about the author's own made-up language. Exceptionally non-notable. A similar attempt to add to Wikionary was deleted in April. DJ Clayworth 15:46, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Redirect Naplese to Naples as a misspelling redirect. Delete the other two. -- Cyrius|&#9998; 15:55, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * I say just delete them all, but if you want to do the misspelling redirect you can. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 16:34, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete all. I'm skeptical that the author (or anyone else) has developed this language, as he or she didn't bother to describe it in detail or paste in any examples of its "poetry." Nathan 20:55, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)

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