Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron – Rescue list/Archive 11

Abdelaziz bin Ahmed Al Thani
–  | AfD discussion –  A Qatari prince who was also a cabinet member. There are probably sources for this. I get too many false positives because of his similarly named family members though... Lost patience. Tijfo098 (talk) 09:50, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I cleaned this one up. Hopefully it helps. Faustus37 (talk) 03:02, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Kept per consensus. Faustus37 (talk) 23:04, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Diary of a Bad Man
–  | AfD discussion –  This is an article on a British web series dealing with Islamic topics which has received well in excess of 35 million YouTube hits. In my view its notability issues have stemmed from two problems: (1) Several media outlets refer to it as "Diary of a Badman" and (2) It had inline citations but no "References" section, a problem since corrected. Once one gets past that, one finds plenty of significant coverage from folks like the BBC, The Guardian, Sky News and others. Faustus37 (talk) 05:17, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Non-admin Keep. Faustus37 (talk) 08:29, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Bangladesh Cement Manufacturers Association
–  | AfD discussion The Bangladesh Cement Manufacturers Association is a small developing country trade organization, but the article has two reliable sources and has been completely redone since the AfD nomination, to include links to member companies. --DThomsen8 (talk) 02:13, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

List of starships in Stargate
–  | AfD discussion –  List of fictional elements that needs reception info. It's a bit harder to source than Star Trek or Star Wars equivalents because starships weren't the focus of SG-1 for the first few seasons. I've ordered half a dozen books on the topic, but they won't arrive before the AfD closes. Anyone got some good sci-fi sources that can help source the various entries to independent RS'es? Jclemens (talk) 07:11, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Ancestry of the kings of Britain
–  | AfD discussion –  It needs renaming to Ancestry of the British monarchy, not deleting. Please help keep this important information for family history. Paul Bedson ❉ talk ❉ 00:21, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
 * This article is poorly focused, superficial, and arbitrary in its coverage. It was created as a way to get a single pedigree onto Wikipedia after it was deemed inappropriate on two other pages.  It has since had material added with no particular plan or obvious organizational scheme to try to keep it from being deleted.  What information it contains that is reliable is already provided in a more scholarly, more organized and more comprehensive fashion on other existing pages that would be reduced in their quality by merging this material into them. Nothing to save here. Agricolae (talk) 00:39, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Ancestry of the kings of the English Heptarchy or Ancestry of the kings of Anglo-Saxon England would be better redirects. Faustus37 (talk) 01:38, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

WIN/GIA
–  | AfD discussion –  The Worldwide Independent Network/Gallup International Association (WIN/GIA) is a global association of independent market research and polling firms. The group was created in May 2010 when the Gallup International Association (GIA), created in 1947, and the Worldwide Independent Network of market research (WIN), created April 2007, merged. These two organizations were notable when formed, and remain notable when merged. When nominated for deletion, the article was undocumented, but it now has three inline citations. It needs more references, especially if an AfD is filed. --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:51, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
 * This isn't an AfD (at least not yet). It's a rejected PROD. Faustus37 (talk) 03:51, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Coalition Fight Music
–  | AfD discussion –  Band/producers that produce "walk out" music for MMA groups including the United States' UFC and the UK/European group UCMMA. Owing to the way the sport is regarded, much of the press that Coalition Fight Music has received is online and/or not from the usual sports press (no Sports Illustrated articles...), so sourcing can be an issue. Article received its first PROD in June 2011 and received a second PROD (against policy) November 1. Would appreciate some ARS folks taking a look. Shearonink (talk) 14:47, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Anyone interested? I know that MMA is not some people's cup of tea, but it is a notable sport/form of entertainment.  This group does *seem* notable, but it would be really helpful if some Squadroneers could attempt a rescue (if a rescue is feasible....if it's not, oh well). Shearonink (talk) 04:00, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per consensus. Faustus37 (talk) 01:38, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

International reaction to the United States presidential election, 2008
–  | AfD discussion –  This is a good WP:LISTPURP with plenty of precedent on other election pages. Given its length I think it's appropriate to keep it separate rather than merge it. The aforementioned precedents are mainly in the election articles themselves, an exception being International reaction to the 2009 Iranian presidential election. I'm referring to "Reactions" sections in articles such as Greek legislative election, May 2012, Philippine general election, 2010, Russian legislative election, 2011, Turkish general election, 2011 and so forth. Under most circumstances I would prefer to have such information in the main election articles as well, but given its size I think it makes more sense to have a standalone article in this particular case. Faustus37 (talk) 08:04, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Non-admin Keep per circumstances of nearly identical 2012 article. Faustus37 (talk) 01:38, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

International reactions to the United States presidential election, 2012
–  | AfD discussion –  | AfD discussion –  Same reasons as similar article for 2008 listed below. Faustus37 (talk) 08:04, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Kept per consensus. Faustus37 (talk) 01:01, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

USA Technologies Inc.
–  | AfD discussion USA Technologies Inc. is a small technologically based company in Pennsylvania. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:12, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Seven keeps, no deletes, tone corrected. --DThomsen8 (talk) 02:41, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Kept via non-admin closure. Faustus37 (talk) 04:12, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Ian D. Marsden
–  | AfD discussion –  He made the first Google Doodle ever. His work has been featured in a lot of notable media. Surely some sources about him can be found.  D r e a m Focus  07:40, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I took a look at this but it doesn't seem promising. Google themselves claim that the first doodle was made by their founders. Warden (talk) 23:55, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Consensus was third-party coverage wasn't sufficient. Faustus37 (talk) 08:23, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

The Strawberry Alarm Clock
–  | AfD discussion –
 * Cursory source-searching has indicated that this article about a radio program in Dublin, Ireland is valid for a stand-alone article on Wikipedia. Currently unsourced and Needs improvments, otherwise it may be deleted. Northamerica1000(talk) 12:47, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Update: I've added four sources to the article, which can be used to verify information and perhaps expand the article. Several more sources are available using this customized search.Northamerica1000(talk) 13:17, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I added some further reading sources in case someone wants to massage the source material in to the target article. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 01:38, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

The revolution of farmers
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 * An article about uprisings of farmers in Thailand that would benefit from further sourcing and inline citations. The article is likely to be renamed if it is not deleted. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:13, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I like the title 1973 Thai student uprising. : ) -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 15:47, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Breast enhancement supplements
–  | AfD discussion –
 * The article was in this state (diff page) when nominated for deletion. Since then, it has been renamed from "Natural breast enhancement" to it's current title and has been significantly modified from its state at the time of nomination for deletion. Posting here for any interested in making further improvements to this start-class article by adding sources, expanding the article, etc. Northamerica1000(talk) 23:49, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Star Wars Episode VII
–  | AfD discussion –
 * The article would benefit from more earlier-dated sources to better-qualify the topic's notability. Many sources currently in the article are very recent. Northamerica1000(talk) 12:02, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 * This is because the project has only become publicly known in the last week. This is an entirely new project from the loose whispers from Lucas 30 years ago, so there are no reliable sources more than a week old.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:07, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Interestingly, there's actually some stuff out there that's more dated, although most appear to be passing mentions that are speculative or discuss the possibility of Star Wars Episode VII occurring. However, some of these sources could potentially be usable in the article to describe rumors, public perceptions, Lucas' reluctance to create more films, etc. Examples include:, , , , , . Northamerica1000(talk) 22:33, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 * LOL, there's not much we can do with this, its an intensely popular subject right now. To some, it would be like nominating the Second Coming of Christ as a violation of WP:CRYSTAL.--Milowent • hasspoken  23:34, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I added some info. I think Lucas was honest in his statements throughout the years that there would be no episode VII. Of course, if your new boss Disney gives you $4 billion and says make episode VII, you make episode VII. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 11:25, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Really nice work expanding the article by User:Uzma Gamal. I'm well-aware how time consuming this can be! Northamerica1000(talk) 23:31, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Holy moly, it got closed as a redirect. Strikes me as a supervote, but I'm not gonna read that whole mess.--Milowent • hasspoken  20:15, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Northamerica1000. A problem seem to have been that some of what was being put in the article was crystal. Also, near the end of the discussion Smetanahue, who previously iVoted "Delete and protect per WP:CRYSTAL. That there are many fanboys is just a reason to be extra observant of the guidelines" at the Star Wars Episode VII AfD discussion, moved the crystal plot information ahead of the 2002-2012 non-crystal source information in the article, claiming that Manual of Style/Film specifies a defined order of sections (which it does not). In addition to adding content, ARS should help ensure that articles are not manipulated during AfD discussion in away that supports the delete arguments. As for Star Wars Episode VII, what could put in the article is listed at Template:Filmmaking. At the moment, the only info available is Development: Green-light history from 2002 to 2012 and some film treatment (potential plot). After the Episode VII announcement, what's currently poping up for the most part is people positioning themselves to be part of the cast (Pre-production) Harrison Ford ready to reprise Han Solo role. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 13:34, 7 November 2012 (UTC)


 * It's no surprise to find that it's now at DRV. This one will run and run... Warden (talk) 23:48, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Ben NanoNote
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 * An article about an affordable pocket computer that has been nominated for deletion. The article would benefit from some copy-editing and improved organization. More sources would also be an improvement. Northamerica1000(talk) 07:26, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

The Elephant House
– | AfD discussion –
 * Several of the article's sources are tagged as possibly unreliable. Appears to be in need of better sourcing from reliable, third-party sources. Northamerica1000(talk) 00:19, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Very interesting AfD. This previously was at AFD last month (Articles for deletion/The Elephant House (2nd nomination)) and after two relistings and 21 days, only garnered one vote, which was a "delete" vote with what I would deem a very equivocating rationale.  The admin (a new admin) closed as keep ostensibly based on a prior AfD in 2008 (a keep), though they might have argued it should be a no-consensus close due to lack of participation.  In any event, the closing admin is also a public art scholar and could have opined keep herself (clearly her own opinion) and not closed the discussion, and it would have then clearly closed as no consensus.  So then it went to DRV after the close rationale was challenged, which led to a decision to relist.  And now its at AfD again as a procedural relisting.  In the first seven days of the new AfD, it got one vote (a keep) which listed several additional sources.  It then had to be relisted before more editors actually noticed it (notwithstanding all the folks who participated in the DRV and apparently were not interested in assessing the merits of the article).  This is a textbook example of AfD going bad -- there are so many places where an article can fall thru the cracks and get wrongfully deleted in this scenario due to lack of participation.--Milowent • hasspoken  12:38, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the overview of this article's unique history; quite interesting. Northamerica1000(talk) 08:25, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Jeffrey M. Smith

 * Appears to be in need of more independent third-party reliable sources and would benefit from some copy-editing, if any are interested in improving it. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 23:49, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Blackvoices.com
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 * An article about a history website that needs more sourcing to qualify the topic's notability, copy-editing and expansion. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 06:32, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Update: I've found and added several sources to the article. These can be used to expand it and verify information within it. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 06:48, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Update: the deletion nomination has been withdrawn. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 07:04, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Brenda Howard Award
Named after Brenda Howard this award likely does have some sources but I'm not having an easy time finding them. At the very least the article should be kept as a part of the original article so I don't think a delete makes sense. Any help appreciated. Also a nemesis who's been following me around has weighed in there so I don't find their opine very telling. Insomesia (talk) 13:24, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Mughal Artillery
With a complete rewrite of this article, there are no grounds for deletion, but ARS members should check it out. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:07, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Oasis Restaurant
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 * Requesting assistance to improve this article about a landmark restaurant near Austin, Texas that needs more sourcing to qualify topic notability. I happened upon this article while working on a new article I created titled List of companies based in Austin, Texas. Some cursory source searching demonstrates potential topic notability for this restaurant. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 23:12, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Update: The nomination for deletion has been withdrawn by the nominator. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 00:55, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Good work, NA! I don't think it can be said too much that articles like this could easily get deleted unless they get attention from the ARS or similarly-motivated editors willing to examine nominations and improve articles.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  12:25, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the kind words! <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 21:36, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Linda Tripp
–  | AfD discussion –  A truly absurd AfD IMHO. Tripp was a major player in what was arguably the single most important historical event in the United States during the late 1990s. Faustus37 (talk) 01:23, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * This has closed as keep. Good faith nomination perhaps, but an abuse of AfD.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  02:58, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Closed as Keep within minutes of ARS rescue list inclusion. Faustus37 (talk) 19:18, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Agha Syed Ali Sharfuddin Baltistani
–  | AfD discussion –  Article cites multiple offline, non-english-language sources, but no-one involved in the discussion has the ability to access or read those sources. The NPOV concerns which prompted the nomination have been largely addressed. &there4; <span style="font: bold 1em Courier, monospace;">ZX95 [ discuss ] 15:11, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Melya
–  | AfD discussion –  The topic would benefit from improved sourcing and information to qualify its notability. I'm trying to research the topic in order to flesh it out. I'm also working on a different, already well-sourced and notable coffee beverage article that was not approved in its AfC process -- the outcome of the AfD discussion for Melya would provide useful rationale for whether or not I should continue working on Café Touba.   &#x0288;  u coxn \<sup style="font-family:serif">talk 19:46, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

List of Indian castes
–  | AfD discussion –  This is a large list but someone wants to delete it on the grounds that he's the only person likely to maintain it and he doesn't want to. Warden (talk) 12:26, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Deleted with considerable commentary in the AfD. Faustus37 (talk) 07:38, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, "considerable commentary" is one way to put it. "Considerable wasting of contributor's time by people who do not know what they are talking about" is another. And it will happen again if the userfied version ever tries to hit mainspace. - Sitush (talk) 00:34, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Yuval Elizur
–  | AfD discussion –
 * Could use some eyes, I'm having problems finding a category of notability for news correspondants but he's written a lot of articles in many major papers so thinking this might be keepable. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 21:12, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Took a quick look, I would say this is a good candidate for potential rescue. Tons of sources aren't jumping out immediately, but some do appear readily available.  His jobs would put him on cusp of notability already.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  14:19, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Template:Rescue list
–  | TfD discussion Our template is being proposed for deletion. -  &#x0288;  u coxn \<sup style="font-family:serif">talk 20:20, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Wrong forum: This is Article Rescue Squadron, not Template Rescue Squadron. Anyway, your old template was deleted and SALTed, and this is just a copy of that template, so it should be as well  p  b  p  20:59, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: And one worth repeating. This seems terribly ham-handed to me. What's wrong with letting AfD participants know that a particular discussion is on the ARS radar? That doesn't hurt anything. Many articles get deleted despite it. For that matter, so what if you deleted and salted its predecessor? That decision may have been wrong, you know. Recall the Fifth Pillar of Wikipedia is WP:IGNORE. Faustus37 (talk) 09:37, 3 December 2012 (UTC)


 * pbp nominates it for deletion days ago and doesn't mention it to the Wikiproject, then tries this stunt. I restored what was placed at the top, since obviously, this affects this wikiproject and thus should be mentioned here, like it would for any wikiproject who had this going on.  Also, what was deleted before was the banner that appeared on the articles themselves, not this list which was created immediately as a replacement.   D r e a m Focus  15:59, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The use of the rescue tag on the TfD of the rescue tag is highly inappropriate and amounts to canvassing. That's why this was placed under "Resolved: Wrong Forum", because of its inappropriateness.  Also, WikiProjects do not need to be notify, and if they were, notification would not be in this section of a WikiProject  p  b  p  19:14, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You honestly believe that a Wikiproject would not need to be notified if something concerning it was up for deletion discussion somewhere? Uh huh.  Not bothering to debate that with you.  And those that use this particular template end up here, so its the obvious place to place it so those using it will know what's going on.   D r e a m Focus  19:30, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Um, this is a list of articles Lemme repeat that: articles . That should explain why this has no business being tagged with its own tag  p  b  p  19:35, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The Rescue Squad handles all XfD processes, it's disingenuous to insist this is not an appropriate list when, in fact, this is the only list - the Rescue list. Insomesia (talk) 04:47, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note that this discussion concerns not the old banner which appeared inside articles at the top, but instead something unrelated, the tag that tells people in an AFD that the debate has been listed in this Wikiproject's list, as is standard for all Wikiprojects.  D r e a m Focus  16:33, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Albannach
–  | AfD discussion –  Albannach is a Scottish traditional music band. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:52, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Eh, I'm lukewarm about this one. They have clearly performed in both the UK and the US, which would satisfy WP:BAND#4. The rest is tenuous, though. Faustus37 (talk) 02:11, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Closed NC per WP:NOQUORUM. Faustus37 (talk) 09:14, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * This AfD is still pending, but after the addition of two inline citations by Warden (talk), the band is much better documented. I held off adding a ***Keep*** until there were better inline citations, and now have said keep. Please take a look. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:28, 4 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Its a borderline case, which is probably part of the reason why its been relisted *three* times at AfD with minimal participation. Does deletion really help the project in this case?  Not really.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  14:09, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree that it is a borderline case, the notability of bands is always a difficult question, and Wikipedia probably has too many articles on bands, especially rock and other very popular music bands, but even so, I think this Scottish traditional music band article should be kept. --DThomsen8 (talk) 15:08, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Gay Robot
–  | AfD discussion –  I've added content and sources but more would be helpful. i know interviews on the subject have been done. Insomesia (talk) 02:17, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You've done a good job improving, I'll see if I can help anymore. homorobotophobia is clearly to blame for this AfD.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  02:49, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Closed Snow Keep. Faustus37 (talk) 07:43, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Fuzzball (sport)
–  | AfD discussion –  The topic would benefit from improved sourcing to qualify its notability. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 19:28, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Non-admin closure. Faustus37 (talk) 07:38, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Barack Obama speech to Clinton Global Initiative, 2012
–  | AfD discussion –  This article is currently undergoing an AfD. I believe it should be kept because the subject of the article has received significant coverage in reliable, secondary sources, thereby passing Wikipedia's general notability guideline. I have added ten sources to the article and there are plenty more available by a simple Google search. This is an important speech because it is the first time that Obama spoke publicly on the subject of human trafficking. Any help in saving this article from deletion would be greatly appreciated. Neelix (talk) 20:45, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Closed deleted. Evidently no one was feeling this one.  Oh No! It's Faustus37!  it is what it is - speak at the tone 17:34, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Avaya Definity
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 * An unsourced article about private branch exchange telephone exchange hardware that requires independent, third-party reliable sources to qualify the topic's notability. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 08:04, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Innovation Works
–  | AfD discussion –  Innovation Works is a Southwestern Pennsylvania company with the mission  to foster the technology economy in Southwestern Pennsylvania through direct investment and business expertise. The company is supported by Pennsylvania's Department of Community and Economic Development. The AfD says the company is not notable, and does not have reliable sources. I am supplying sources:

Here are two articles from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, the leading Pittsburgh daily newspaper: Here are four articles from the Pittsburgh Business Times:
 * http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/business/news/innovation-works-has-lived-up-to-its-name-637098/
 * http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/business/news/innovation-works-marks-10-years-of-funding-local-startups-creating-jobs-244985/
 * http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/news/2012/09/14/top-5-innovation-works-plsg-investments.html
 * http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/news/2012/05/23/innovation-works-puts-pittsburgh-tech.html?page=all
 * http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/news/2012/05/24/slideshow-scenes-from-innovation.html
 * http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/news/2011/10/07/top-7-innovation-works-plsg-investments.html
 * Here is another business journal article:
 * http://www.g20pittsburghsummit.org/transformation-city/information-communications-technology/innovation-works/

The nominator says the two Pittsburgh Post-Gazette are routine (WP:ROUTINE) and therefore are not reliable independent sources, all of the Pittsburgh Business Times articles depend on information from the company and therefore don't show notability, and the final business journal article is based on a company handout and is not reliable. This company has been successful for about twelve years, and there are more articles than those I provided, but how can the "not notable" and "not a reliable source" logic be refuted? --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:46, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

=Resolved/dated entries= — Note: Entries here are listed in a basic reverse-chronological order, with newer entries at the top. For older entries, please refer to the project's archives. —

Dick Assman
–  | AfD discussion –  The topic leaves me cold but may mean more to North American editors. Warden (talk) 11:57, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * There are certainly tons of citations that can be added, this was huge in North America, he became a virtual legend in Canada, he still gets mentioned in Canadian papers. The only problem is that its quite silly, though much of life is silly.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  14:17, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Daniel O'Brien (comedian)
–  | AfD discussion –  O'Brien is a major contributor at the notable Cracked.com. A cursory search reveals significant coverage at Forbes, The Huffington Post and ESPN. Faustus37 (talk) 07:48, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: HP is an interview of Michael Swaim and ESPN is about their collaberation on Agents of Cracked than DOB, poster apparently can't read. Soxwon (talk) 02:14, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Kept by non-admin closure.  Oh No! It's Faustus37!  it is what it is - speak at the tone 04:22, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Template:Rescue list
– talk | TfD discussion Our template is being proposed for deletion. -  &#x0288;  u coxn \<sup style="font-family:serif">talk 20:20, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * This concerns people in this wikiproject obviously, so the members of it should be informed just like any other wikiproject would.  D r e a m Focus  15:52, 3 December 2012 (UTC)


 * What led to PBP's nomination? Is there a particular AfD he got upset about?  I really don't understand.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  23:47, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I've been meaning to do it for months. When it appeared that Wolfie's RfC wasn't coming, I went ahead and did it  p  b  p  19:25, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Closed No Consensus. See also below.  Oh No! It's Faustus37!  it is what it is - speak at the tone 17:34, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Gladstone (humorist)
–  | AfD discussion –  Like O'Brien below, a major contributor to Cracked.com. Gladstone has significant Internet presence with Comedy Central in addition to Cracked. A clear pass of WP:ENTERTAINER. Faustus37 (talk) 00:22, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note Also passes WP:ENTERTAINER, has significant following on Twitter.- [User:Rocketsteam:Rocketsteam]
 * Closed NC pending proposed rewrite.  Oh No! It's Faustus37!  it is what it is - speak at the tone 13:38, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

List of fictional half-demons
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 * I believe it as notable as any other list of this type. Any books out there written about demons in the media throughout the ages, with a chapter about half demons?   D r e a m Focus  20:14, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Anti-Life Equation
–  | AfD discussion –
 * Found in a lot of notable works over a significant period of time and seems very important in the DC comics universe. Anyone having any books about this that mention it, please chime in.   D r e a m Focus  19:57, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Stonewalling
–  | AfD discussion –  There seem to be lots of sources for this and the topic may interest those who engage in dispute resolution here. Warden (talk) 12:26, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I have asked in a comment, "Are there notifications to the Behavioral sciences, Law enforcement, Lingusitcs and Politics WikiProjects?" The answer is no. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:34, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Out of position
–  | AfD discussion –  Original version was little more than a WP:DICDEF ; I've moved the article to remove ambiguity and rewritten it practically from scratch now, with academic books and conference proceedings as six distinct sources. Concept seems highly notable. Help in expanding the article and finding further sources is welcome. -- Cycl o pia talk  23:53, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Clementine (The Walking Dead)
–  | AfD discussion –  This seems to be more than just another videogame character. This review gives a sense of what we have here. Warden (talk) 17:11, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm going to surprise myself by agreeing with you, Warden - at least to the extent that is at minimum a 'merge' rather than 'delete'. I'll see if I can find anything to add to the article. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:22, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It was listed without providing notification to the AfD. IRWolfie- (talk) 21:28, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I hope you fixed that, then. Wolfie, I hereby appoint you president of adding the rescue notification to all AfDs listed here, or confirming the adding of such notification, notwithstanding your vote to delete the notification template.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  17:16, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Rat Bastard Protective Association
–   –
 * An article about an underground arts organization that requires sourcing to demonstrate the topic's notability. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 00:54, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Determination of the day of the week
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 * Seems to have potential for a Wikipedia article, and needs to be copy-edited to change some of the how-to information in it to encyclopedic style. More sourcing would also certainly benefit the article. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 14:34, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

List of defensive gun use incidents
–  | AfD discussion 2nd nom. survived the first one, but its back up. Gaijin42 (talk) 14:31, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

List of television programmes broadcast by the BBC
–  | AfD discussion –  You may recall such programmes as Monty Python, Doctor Who, Sky at Night, Are You Being Served?, Fawlty Towers, &c. Warden (talk) 20:22, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I just proposed this in the AfD, wanted to make sure you noticed it. This list is of all programs "broadcast" by the BBC, which includes plenty of programming that the BBC had nothing to do with producing, originating, etc. (including The Flintstones, Flight of the Conchords, etc....that was just me scanning what's under the letter 'F', and they're perfectly valid under the list's current scope). The examples you list above are excellent examples of programming original to the BBC, and as such I've proposed altering the list's scope to limit it to BBC originals. Otherwise, this is in practice a list that includes in its scope almost every TV show ever aired in the UK, including reruns of American-originated programming. This seems the definition of indiscriminate to me. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡ  bomb  00:41, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Zenith Staybrite
–   –
 * This topic is about a home improvement company with offices across England. The article needs more sources to qualify the topic's notability for a Wikipedia article. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 14:11, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Creative problem solving
–  | AfD discussion –  A barnstar for the editor who can solve this problem in the most creative way. Warden (talk) 10:56, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * This post was archived by the bot. I've reposted it here, because the article is still being discussed at AfD. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 15:26, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Amirite
This is an article that was created via the WP:AFC process and has been subsequently nominated for deletion. The claim is that it does not meet GNG, but one of the references indicate that it was covered by CBS, among other reliable sources. I have too many commitments, both in real life and on articles that I am already working on, to be able to do the research needed on this article. If anyone here can do some research it would be appreciated. As a side matter, is there any policy or guideline on AFC articles being immediately nominated for deletion? I can't find anything, so if anyone knows of one, if you could drop a note on my talk page, it would also be appreciated. GregJackP  Boomer!   02:38, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * After others have researched this, I am removing my support for rescue. All of the sources available, save one, are press releases from the company itself.  Even the CBS ref was a press release.   GregJackP   Boomer!   16:03, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi there,
 * I've saw Amirite featured in a CBS segment a while back but I couldn't find a link either because it was on air,
 * I did find this though from India's top news network: http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/technology/amiritecom-exciting-new-startup-goes-viral-signnowbe-partthe-next-big-thing_788015.html
 * If you read under the title it mentions the feature on cbsnews.com [unsigned...]


 * anonymous, hi! - Sadly, obviously that too is a copy of the other promotional stuff out their along with the CBS. פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 15:19, 2 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I just found the rescue squadron and see that Amirite is already up here...
 * Greg, I agree, and removed all those promotional lists. It seems the article was created for promotion. But there are indications that it is notable, not through press releases. Please see the article now.
 * There is even a country called after the website: The United Arab Amirites (just joking). פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 15:16, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Oddjob's hat
An excellent spinoff (geddit?) which seems easy to expand. Warden (talk) 19:08, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Closed as a merge to Oddjob

Tom Stienstra
–   –   Multi-award winning newspaper columnist and author. May have WP:UNDUE on a pot bust, which I asked for help with. this resulted in a deletion discussion, help iumproving overall article quality would be appreciated too. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 00:08, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Closed as KEEP

International reaction to the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting
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 * Someone has expressed concerned that the coverage of what the world leaders said, is just newspapers repeating quotes, not significant coverage to prove any of this was notable. If anyone speaks a language other than English, you can see if their nation's newspapers gave more coverage to things.   D r e a m Focus  14:39, 22 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Closed as KEEP.  D r e a m Focus  23:17, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Meatheads Burgers & Fries
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 * This article about a chain of restaurants needs more sources to qualify the topic's notability. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 14:05, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Seems eminently rescue-able. I found a number of sources, I bet there are more.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  15:00, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice work sourcing the article, Milowent. Cheers, <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 15:21, 21 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Closed as KEEP  D r e a m Focus  23:17, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Persian Gulf Online Organization
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 * This is the second AfD. The result of the first AfD was no consensus. In fact 07:38, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * This one closed as no consensus too.  D r e a m Focus  23:16, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Ultra lounge
–   –
 * Currently prodded. I have a feeling it could be saved. 151.74.77.21 (talk) 05:17, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I've added a couple references and deprodded it, but I think this would work better merged as a section at Lounge music as there isn't much content available to expand the article. Diego (talk) 14:06, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * A deletion discussion has been opened for this one. Diego (talk) 09:34, 26 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Closed as merge to Lounge music

Fulvia Celica Siguas Sandoval
Anyone want a challenge? This Peruvian transexual apparently has had a record number of surgeries placing her in the Guinness book of world records. Anyone able to pull sources in other languages is most welcome to flesh this one out! Insomesia (talk) 20:59, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

List of Dragonlance artifacts
We have found a few independent reliable sources for some of the items on the list since the AFD started, but we could use a few more. BOZ (talk) 02:01, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

List of songs about cities
Seems quite easy to source. Warden (talk) 19:43, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Philip Coppens (author)
–   –

He appeared on most episodes of the History Channel's "Ancient Aliens" series. He was a fringe science author, so most of what can be found on the web is on sites that are not reliable sources. But he published a bunch of books and was well-known in his peculiar field of expertise. His article has been nominated for deletion and it seems to have been caught up in a kerfuffle about whether an author promoting fringe science can ever be notable, short of being Erik von Daniken.

Today, I've added a 2011 interview on KDKA as a ref, but additional refs from other mainstream news outlets would help. I've been looking for obits (he died just a fortnight ago). Help would be appreciated. David in DC (talk) 02:54, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Killer toys
It seems easy to turn up sources for this and I'm currently busy myself dealing with malicious attempts to revert my edits and delete my user pages. Warden (talk) 11:48, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Closed as KEEP on 12 January 2012

The rape of Savannah Dietrich
Newly created stub. Many references. Deleted per WP:BLP1E even though article is not a biography, but an WP:EVENT. Gaijin42 (talk) 22:15, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Article renamed to Sexual assault of Savannah_Dietrich with a redirect kept from The rape of Savannah Dietrich. The discussion was closed as KEEP on 11 January 2013.

Unique hues
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I don't think there much danger that this will be deleted but it seems to be quite an interesting topic. Warden (talk) 13:28, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It was withdrawn by the nominator.  D r e a m Focus  12:12, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

List of black fashion models
The list could use some sourcing for famous cases such as Naomi Campbell and Tyra Banks. Sports fans may prefer List of black NHL players. Warden (talk) 23:58, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Possible SPA AfD spree
has been taken to ANI and is under SPI investigation after creating fifteen AfD nominations ...

Some of the above.

-- Senra (talk) 16:52, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Nominator has been blocked, not sure if any of these AfDs are still open, some are already closed that I checked.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 21:37, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe that all of IronKnuckles AfD nominations have now been closed; most of them speedy. At the time of posting this notice, it was unclear how the ANI discussion was going to go&mdash;for example . Thank you for taking the time to look anyway -- Senra (talk) 21:51, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Cosmo (restaurant)
–   –
 * Seems unlikely to be deleted, but the article itself could use significant work. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 15:17, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

YouTube Top 100
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 * A new article nominated for deletion. Is it notable, and sourceable from sources other than YouTube? <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 11:18, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That's only shows what music videos were watched each week, it not including all YouTube videos. The media does mention certain notable bands and their current views of their YouTube videos at times though.   D r e a m Focus  11:31, 22 January 2013 (UTC)


 * The nomination doesn't focus on notability. There's a general problem with careful chart tracking, in that charts, at their core, serve as advertisements. They aren't simple numeric measures: they are carefully weighted, with eligibility requirements, timing requirements, rules about reentry, etc., in an effort to market and promote different genres and artists. That puts tracking any of them close to running afoul of WP:NOTADVERTISING. It would be impossible to cover the music industry without mention of charts, though. Even though it's marketing, it's the foundation of the way the business operates. The compromise we've come up with over the years is WP:SINGLEVENDOR: we cover charts that cross multiple channels and outlets because, despite all their faults, they provide meaningful information about the success of the individual songs on the charts. Charts that cover only a single outlet really serve to promote the outlet, not the things on the chart itself, so carefully tracking them in this manner serves no purpose except to promote the outlet.&mdash;Kww(talk) 15:27, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, but WP:SINGLEVENDOR, which states, "Charts which rank material from a single vendor or network are generally unsuitable for inclusion in articles", may be somewhat outdated, and should be considered on a case-by-case basis. Significant numbers of people use YouTube all over the planet. That said, I appreciate the detailed reply delineating your rationale. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 15:36, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Recurring squad members of the Mass Effect universe
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 * Eight books and 5 games in the series have their own articles. This series is notable enough a character list is probably justified, but the article itself is a bit large.  If references can be found to justify any of these characters is notable enough to have their own article, that'd help with the size problem.  Also some trimming may be in order.    D r e a m Focus  10:06, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Deletion spree
User:Boleyn has started a large number of AFDs on notability grounds without following WP:BEFORE. You can see their status in this list. As there are a large number, I suggest that rescuers browse the list for topics with which they are familiar — I'm going to deal with just a few myself. Warden (talk) 11:32, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Definitely worth looking at. Some are probably legitimate noms, but its indiscriminate based on things long tagged for notability and forgotten.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  14:59, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

GAVI Alliance
An NGO (as far as I can tell) that works with Unicef, the WHO and the like – so, I would say, notable – but their article here currently reads like an advert. Since they do seem important, however, I thought I should go here first rather than just AfDing.  It Is Me Here  t /  c  15:52, 25 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Google news shows 32 results. Bill Gate's charity has a website, with articles about it also.    D r e a m Focus  12:13, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Page was speedily deleted as a copyright infringement.  GregJackP   Boomer!   19:46, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It has been recreated, in case anyone wants to work on it. I added a couple of references.   D r e a m Focus  18:11, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Trying to rescue an unreferenced BLP
(copied here from WP:RSN)  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 17:40, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

The unreferenced BLP Sarah Blacker is currently at risk of WP:BLPPROD. The bio makes mention of references in the The Boston Globe and Performer Magazine, but provides no citations to back up these claims. I searched around and found this link to the latter source. However, I noticed this in the page footer:

WHO WE ARE Performer has been in print for over 20 years. We are a nationally distributed musician’s trade publication, with a focus on independent musicians, those unsigned and on small labels, and their success in a DIY environment. We’re dedicated to promoting lesser-known talent and being the first to introduce you to artists you should know about.

So would this trade publication be considered a reliable source? If not, then I may have no choice but to nominate the article for deletion. Tgghanks.--Drm310 (talk) 06:19, 28 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Boston Globe has a Kate Taylor interview where Kate speaks about an upcoming show and saysgot a girl opening the show – Sarah Blacker, she’s really good, too, so I'm looking forward to seeing her again." Rescue seems quite possible as her website shares her press coverage and interviews, including that quite lengthy article in Performer Magazine and as long as it has editorial oversite it is reliable enough for what it covers. With diligent searches combining her name with the specific assertion sources are available, even if not used. For instance, I was able to find her on the list of 2012 nominees for a Boston Music Award. All those redlinks need to be dealt with and the thing tightened up quite a bit with some judicious trimming, but I think  we have notability and the thing simply needs lots of love and attention.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 06:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Richard Dixon (USCG)
Surely there is ample coverage of such a person to be found somewhere. Got a medal for his heroism and had a costly military ship named after him for that reason as well.  D r e a m Focus  08:07, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Newa games
It's at AfD, it seems highly encyclopedic, but I can't even get it to meet WP:V. Any sourcing on any of the games that can be found would be of great use. Hobit (talk) 14:06, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Crow stew
–   –
 * Are enough reliable sources available to qualify a Wikipedia article for this topic? Maybe people here can help to find some. See also: Eating crow. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 13:16, 30 January 2013 (UTC)


 * The article was initially nominated for deletion because I created it after the topic (crow stew) was mentioned on the television talk-show Conan. At that time, it was a stub. Since then, I’ve spent hours researching the subject, and I think I’ve pretty much exhausted the effort. I’m not sure how much more information can be dug up on this, or if it’s even worth the work. There may be more worthy articles on Wikipedia to spend time on.


 * Having said that, I think this is still an informative, useful, and well-substantiated article. (For example, I was able to trace the modern crow stew recipe to its origins in the Midwest US during the time of the Great Depression). The sources are absolutely reliable; the research is solid and the article should be saved.--Jvanek01 (talk) 15:50, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Nataline Sarkisyan

 * I really don't have the time necessary to improve this article, but I think with re-writing, the topic of her treatment and death are notable. Articles for deletion/Nataline Sarkisyan (2nd nomination).--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 15:54, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Los Angeles County Sales Tax, Measure R (2008)
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Measure R is similar to many ballot propositions that meet GNG. It was voted for by over 2 million people and effects a county of nearly 10 million. It helped pay for two of the largest construction projects in American history (the expansion of Los Angeles mass transit and the California High-Speed Rail) and represents a generational shift in attitudes about transit and urbanism.--Jkfp2004 (talk) 02:14, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Evan Kosiner
–   –   A whole bunch of little mentions in various newspaper sources, that put together, seem to prove notability. Somebody local to the area must be able to do better. Ritchie333  (talk)   (cont)   19:45, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I actually voted delete, shock of shocks! This dude is pumping the internet up with his resume, he's just a competent professional, which is great for him.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  04:06, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * A borderline notable one does turn up once in a while, though. See previous exhibits here, here, and here (though I'm a little annoyed that accounts of the latter's business crashing and burning are all in self-published sources, so I can't add it).  Ritchie333   (talk)   (cont)   10:00, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Closed as Keep, with an honorable mention to Milowent for putting up a good argument. I was expecting No Consensus myself. Ritchie333   (talk)   (cont)   18:02, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

International Climate Science Coalition
–   –
 * I deprodded this article after finding some sources, but it would certainly benefit from copy editing, more sources and inline citations and possible expansion. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 12:23, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Your sources were very thin and offered only the most incidental coverage. I've removed two. See talk William M. Connolley (talk) 12:40, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I've nominated it for deletion at: Articles for deletion/International Climate Science Coalition. Therein the community can hopefully discuss and assess the notability of the topic to a greater degree. The topic may not ultimately meet the threshold of notability for a Wikipedia article. I currently don't have time to find, research and assess additional sources, should they exist. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 14:35, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

List of people with surname Jones
It's a long list and this alone seems to be enough to make people want it delete it. The wikilawyering is tiresome so perhaps there's something more constructive which can be done. Warden (talk) 07:52, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Good find. Its obviously a disambiguate list, same as any other, just someone put the word "list" in its name.   D r e a m Focus  13:44, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Busybody
I have this in hand but others may enjoy the dramatic irony. Warden (talk) 08:08, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Nomination was withdrawn thanks to your efforts.  D r e a m Focus  02:33, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Lol, that listing made me chuckle.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 06:18, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Oreo O's
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 * Deprodded by another editor, this article about a discontinued breakfast cereal would benefit from more sourcing and expansion. <small style="font-family:arial">Northamerica1000(talk) 07:40, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The ploy "article been tagged for X for Y years with no change" is a dangerous one. There are clearly notable subject articles that don't get improved after many years, until some editor improves it.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  06:21, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Fast forward
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 * Unlikely to be deleted, but can easily be improved with more sources, expansion, etc., if anyone has the time or interest to work on it. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:50, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Persecution of Serbs and other non-Albanians in Kosovo
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 * Needs copy editing to address claims of synthesis tagged atop the article; more sources would also be functional. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:05, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Urban reforestation

 * | AfD discussion


 * Stub article, possible merge candidate (with Urban forestry). Should not, in my opinion, be deleted. Better to develop and/or merge. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 18:46, 1 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Rescued, thank you. Further contributions welcome. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 11:28, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

SimpleText
–   –
 * Article is about an earlier Macintosh text editor. It has the same issues as TeachText, below. -    &#x0288;  u coxn \<sup style="font-family:serif">talk 05:51, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Result was speedy keep.  D r e a m Focus  18:13, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Edit (application)
–   –
 * Article is about an earlier Macintosh text editor. It has the same issues as TeachText, below. -    &#x0288;  u coxn \<sup style="font-family:serif">talk 05:51, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Hard to search for something with that name. Too many results to wade through.   D r e a m Focus  18:08, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Tony Montana
–  | AfD discussion –
 * Up for deletion, the article relies upon one source and one inline citation to that source, as of this post. Say hello to my little post: this article needs more sources to qualify topic notability. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:27, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Closed as keep.  D r e a m Focus  18:13, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

TeachText
–   –
 * An unsourced article that needs sources to qualify the topic's notability. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:18, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Closed as keep.  D r e a m Focus  18:14, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Legal Community Against Violence
–   –  Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence – – Legal Community Against Violence –


 * Currently named "Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence" (the article's title is in the group's previous name), the topic needs sources to qualify its notability. Northamerica1000(talk) 10:55, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The nominator and three others have been banned for being sockpuppets, with only one delete vote left from someone who didn't make any edits ever outside that AFD, and is thus obvious a sock also.  D r e a m Focus  18:16, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Lunar Magic
There are a lot of search results to go through, using the custom Google search for the reliable sources listed by the video game Wikiproject. I found one sure thing, and then plenty of sources about a guy using the program to propose to his girlfriend, but some help with the article would be appreciated.  D r e a m Focus  16:16, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Ended in Keep. Glad I found it and was able to rewrite it and find sources that convinced others to change their votes.  Thanks to others who participated.  Remember, you can make a difference.   D r e a m Focus  18:19, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Boulevard Drive-In Theatre (Allentown, Pennsylvania)
I gather that drive-ins have significant nostalgia value for Americans of mature years. This seems to be an outstanding example so, of course, some blue meanie wants to delete it. Surely it doesn't require a Brit to save an American institution? Warden (talk) 21:00, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I added links to some source material. People are going to write about something from the 1950s that is central to a community and remains a large open area for many years. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 15:16, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Hewitt-Roddick Rivalry
–   –
 * A (possible) tennis rivalry nominated for deletion per WP:NSPORTS; needs more sourcing to qualify notability. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:30, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn: it's likely to be deleted. Northamerica1000(talk) 08:40, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Bill Luckett (businessman)
–  | AfD discussion –
 * A BLP that would benefit from more sources to qualify topic notability. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:23, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Seems like a hopeless case. The article says all he ever did was run for office and get local coverage.   D r e a m Focus  14:20, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn for rescue consideration. Northamerica1000(talk) 10:16, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Game of the Year
Over 200K and over two hundred sources so, of course, someone wants to delete it. The work required here seems to be mostly structural - helping to organise and tidy lots of information. Warden (talk) 12:53, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I listed some steps at the AfD and the article talk page that should be taken. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 14:49, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Scientific myth
This currently needs editors with some fluency in both English and Russian. Warden (talk) 20:36, 23 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I rewrote the article and the AFD has been withdrawn now. Warden (talk) 14:30, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The page now seems to have a discret topic that can grow (the Newton's apple falling upon his head makes the myth gist of the article clear). From the article title, I thought about pseudoscience being a scientific myth. I think the title needs another word or two, something like Myths of scientific knowledge (from Sociology of scientific knowledge) or Myths of scientific theory, Myths of scientific principles, etc. You may want to take a look at intitle:scientific and intitle:myth and see if you can come up with the right wording that is consistent with how those two words are used in other titles. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 15:04, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Origin myths of scientific principles? The very-russian-minded prior version of this article is hard to decipher but seemed to be about something different, more like what is at List of popular misconceptions about the history of science.  Like that blow jobs are good for women's health, to mention one "science myth" I just saw mentioned again today.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  16:29, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
 * It's possible that the scientific myth article is a coat rack just waiting for coats such as blow jobs are good for women's health to be hung on it. The translation of the Russian says ". As an example, Mr. Bondi leads "field myth" when the high efficiency of Maxwell's theory gave rise to the myth that all good physical theory must be field." Sounds closer to an opinionated complaint than something that links the myth of Newton's apple falling on his head with the gravity scientific principle. Hopefully, the Colonel's efforts will keep the article from going south in the future. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 11:27, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Milking the bull
Yet another topic which is rich in dramatic irony. Warden (talk) 12:31, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The likelihood that writers are going to write enough source material about something that originated in the 16th century and is still around today is strong. Looks like the AfD is going to be a keeper, thanks to Colonel Warden's efforts. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 12:54, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Race: The Reality of Human Difference
The book has a significant number reviews that are available via google:, however, I don't have the time to significantly improve the article, 01:55, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks like it is going to be kept. Books are a tougher AfD topic. Other than review of the book and cites by others to passages in the book, what else is there? For films and music, people can have a jointly shared experience which reliable sources can write about. Books are different in that reactions are individual, and reliable sources are not going to write about any one individual reaction to a book. Books probably should have a lower notability threshold than other topics. A few reviews from when the book is first published and some other reliable source coverage of the book a year or several years later about something other than a review of the book (award, turned into a movie, started a riot, etc.) might be all that is needed. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 10:53, 28 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Per the above, I posted a proposal at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(books). -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 11:52, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

List of military commanders
We need a better shortcut for WP:CLN. How about WP:LISTHATE or WP:NOCONTEST? Warden (talk) 20:39, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I think I see: In view of the AfD reaction to List of military commanders, we need a more accurate shortcut for Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates other than WP:CLN. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 10:59, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

List of American public officials convicted of crimes

 * Articles for deletion/List of American public officials convicted of crimes (2nd nomination)

To coin a phrase, "Name the guilty men!" Warden (talk) 17:24, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: GNG? Sure!  But a pretty clear violation of WP:NOT...what's a crime and what's a public official are poorly defined, and that makes it an indiscriminate list  p  b  p  23:13, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Are you serious? A crime is an illegal act.  See the article for crime if you really don't understand it, or get a dictionary.  Do the same for public official.  It certainly is not an indiscriminate list.   D r e a m Focus  11:23, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
 * It was deleted. 10:29, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I have started another page which should be more inspiring and much less work: List of honest politicians. Warden (talk) 13:21, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * List of honest politicians probably should be redirected to here. Next up, List of American public officials not convicted of crimes which a subsection listing who didn't make the list. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 11:06, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Fictional resistance movements and groups

 * Articles for deletion/Fictional resistance movements and groups

I'm !voting delete on this currently but can see how it might be possible to turn it around by finding some good sources. And, of course, there's more dramatic irony to be savoured. May the Force be with you... Warden (talk) 11:18, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks like it was kept. The article probably should be renamed to List of fictional resistance movements to go along with the Resistance movement article. Category:Fictional resistance movements should be created and subcated under Category:Resistance movements and the items listed in Fictional resistance movements and groups be palce in Category:Fictional resistance movements. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 11:12, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Laboratoire d'Informatique de Paris 6
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 * An article about one of the largest computer science laboratories in France that needs more sources to meet WP:ORGDEPTH. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Baldini & Castoldi
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 * This article about an Italian publishing house founded in 1897 needs more sourcing to meet WP:CORPDEPTH. Maybe more sources are available online, or in books at a library. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:23, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Disruptive physician
–   –   The sources for this make entertaining reading... Warden (talk) 18:01, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Hugh Alexander Kennedy
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 * A BLP of a chess player that needs more sources to qualify topic notability. See WP:BASIC for sourcing requirements. Northamerica1000(talk) 10:02, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

List of directors of The Simpsons
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 * Unlikely to be deleted, but the article needs more sources and citations to verify information within it. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:18, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Ended in speedy keep.  D r e a m Focus  02:44, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Very Serious People
–  | AfD discussion –  This nomination is the result of excessive misplaced zeal at BLPN and in particular comes from a misunderstanding of the difference between primary and secondary sources. Much of the article has been removed, so you'd have to look in the history to see the extent of sources. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 06:28, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The AfD discussion resulted in delete. The article is now a redirect to Paul Krugman. Northamerica1000(talk) 06:03, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Serbia–Venezuela relations
–  | AfD discussion –
 * Would benefit from more sourcing, and possibly copy-editing per the notion that synthesis may exist in the article, per the AfD nomination. Northamerica1000(talk) 10:06, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The AfD discussion closed as keep, and the closer suggested "I encourage those interested to continue finding ways to improve the article further." Northamerica1000(talk) 06:04, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Giant rat
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 * A term that, per the article, "has been applied to various species of large rodents". Needs sourcing to qualify topic notability. Northamerica1000(talk) 04:09, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The article was retained, after which it was converted to a disambiguation page and a significant amount of content was merged to Giant Rat of Sumatra. The unsourced section titled "Other fictional giant rats" previously in the article appears to have been removed (without a merge anywhere). Northamerica1000(talk) 06:06, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's correct. I did that, and that was the course of action the AfD outcome dictated.  It was correct to remove unsourced content that is an indiscriminate list; said content violates a bazillion policies and guidelines and can be found in the history anyway.  The content should not be added back unless reliable, non-fleeting citations attest to the notability of a list of giant rats, not just any one giant rat in particular.  p  b  p  04:23, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Yale Entrepreneurial Society
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 * A student-run nonprofit 501(c)3 organization associated with Yale University that needs more sources to qualify for a standalone article. See WP:ORGDEPTH for sourcing requirements. Northamerica1000(talk) 12:57, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

The Grio
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 * A division of NBC News launched in 2009, the article needs more sources to qualify topic notability. Northamerica1000(talk) 12:52, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Notre Dame Television
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 * A student television station funded by the University of Notre Dame; the article needs more sources to qualify topic notability. Northamerica1000(talk) 13:31, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

T-Dog (The Walking Dead)

 * A popular character in the TV series - there have to be some interviews or something out there about this character. BOZ (talk) 05:03, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The result of the AfD discussion was redirect to List of The Walking Dead (TV series) characters. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:39, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't know anything about this show, but wanted to mention that the show article has been in the WP:TOP25 most popular articles chart for a few weeks now. So not surprising we'd see articles pop up on characters.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  03:37, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 * That's an interesting list. An article I created charted on it too. Duck Dynasty.  Only 5 articles that week had over a million views.  Odd.   D r e a m Focus  04:16, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Nice job with Duck Dynasty! The Top25 list goes back to January of this year, you will see that only a few articles at most usually get over 1 million views a week.  Sometimes no articles hit 1 million.  The Top 25 most viewed pages in a week are only about 4% of all pageviews, the top 5000 is about 19%, it a very long tail down from there.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  04:24, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

List of strongmen
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 * Yet another case where the nominator doesn't seem to know about WP:CLN. I find them relaxing to work upon though —  easy to source and interesting to browse and flesh out. Warden (talk) 13:01, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

The Man Who Never Lied
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 * An article about a song by the band Maroon 5 that, per the nomination for deletion, requires sources that are more in-depth in coverage to qualify for a Wikipedia article. Northamerica1000(talk) 04:24, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

The Secret of Oz
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 * An article about a documentary film nominated for deletion as lacking notability, and as having "fringe, biased sources, not reliable secondary sources as required." Thus, the article needs sources of the reliable variety to demonstrate topic notability. Northamerica1000(talk) 04:10, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

DragonSpires
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 * Found some coverage in Wired Magazine. Additional help finding reliable sources covering it would be appreciated.   D r e a m Focus  17:30, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The Wired article is a good start, but several searches have not yielded significant coverage in reliable sources thus far. For example, this source only has a passing mention: . Northamerica1000(talk) 10:17, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Finding sources from 19 years ago, is rather difficult. I don't suppose anyone has any old magazines lying around to look through?  A famous game designer like Dr. Cat, would have his games reviewed somewhere.   D r e a m Focus  15:05, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Folks at WikiProject Video games may be able to help out...Northamerica1000(talk) 19:55, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * It was tagged for inclusion there already when nominated for deletion. Google book search had results, and I searched the Wikipedia for mentions of one book, and found it referenced in various articles, so then contacted the guy adding it to another MUD article.  Asked him to look up what it said about DragonSpire.  The Google book preview didn't list exactly what it says in most cases, so you have to find someone with a copy of the books to check and see.   D r e a m Focus  23:30, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * People found some book sources and added them to the article; the article was retained. Northamerica1000(talk) 22:57, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Trombone suicide
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 * Currently at AfD. Needs major expansion into a piece entitled Marching band choreography, to include this as a section. Carrite (talk) 17:06, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Here's one source below, perhaps the only one available from Google News and Books searches at this time on the entire internet!
 * — Northamerica1000(talk) 11:52, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I stand (possibly) corrected, per more sources added to the article by other editor(s), (unless the sources were from GNews/Books!)   Northamerica1000(talk) 12:10, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I stand (possibly) corrected, per more sources added to the article by other editor(s), (unless the sources were from GNews/Books!)   Northamerica1000(talk) 12:10, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

The result of the AfD discussion was "no consensus leaning towards deletion." Northamerica1000(talk) 03:54, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

List of Start Menu replacements for Windows 8
–  | AfD discussion –
 * Currently at AfD. Not sure how to respond since its already very well-sourced (and ironically, being well-sourced is being held against the article as being a 'link farm').  A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 23:44, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Odd that it got nominated again, seeing how many references were found in the first AFD months ago.  D r e a m Focus  00:38, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Historical powers
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 * Anyone study this in any history classes in college? Got any books about it?  Seems quite encyclopedic to list the nations that were considered great powers at some point in history.   D r e a m Focus  07:30, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The AFD ended in KEEP.  D r e a m Focus  20:00, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The article was renamed to List of pre-modern great powers. Northamerica1000(talk) 10:53, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

The Unlikely Pilgrimage of Harold Fry
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 * The Unlikely Pilgrimage of Harold Fry is a novel by Rachel Joyce, published in 2012. Other ARS members can tell me if this novel is worth of rescue. Clearly, the article should not survive as just a plot summary. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:18, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Worthy of rescue. Indeed, the nom's real complaint is about quality, and its worth improving.  Best selling hardcover novel from a new novelist in UK in 2012 among other claims to notability.  Almost reached nytimes bestseller list (Was on extended list for a number of weeks ), also got much attention from critics.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken  02:55, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The article was retained. Northamerica1000(talk) 10:50, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Library theft
–  | AfD discussion –
 * The article would benefit from more sources, which can help to demonstrate the topic's notability. Northamerica1000(talk) 06:25, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The nomination for deletion was withdrawn, but the article would still benefit from the above. Northamerica1000(talk) 22:43, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Anti-lock braking system for motorcycles
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 * Nominated for deletion as a content fork, but a significant amount of information in the article is not present in other articles. It's also nominated for being essay-like and for having parts that are "poorly written/unnecessary." Perhaps copy editing would be in order. Furthermore, several of the sources in the article are primary; finding and adding additional secondary sources to better-establish topic notability would be in order. Northamerica1000(talk) 23:43, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

316th division

 * It's good to see Fram pitching in to rescue this article. Per the parable of the Lost Sheep, "there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents, than over ninety-nine righteous people who need no repentance." :)  Warden (talk) 15:48, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn by nominator, so it ended as keep.  D r e a m Focus  15:51, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Difference of fatigue strength in vacuum and air
The AFD has facile criticisms such as "too slight" so more bulk might help. Warden (talk) 12:40, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

White jazz
Reviewers at the AfD suggest that "white jazz" is not commonly understood to be a standalone music genre, but "white jazz" is a concept discussed in several reliable sources and not simply as a qualifier for "white jazz musicians". I would be glad to see the article expanded or merged into the "Race" section I created on the Jazz article, which also needs expanding. Neelix (talk) 11:14, 25 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Strange that I should find myself here, or anywhere, arguing for an article's deletion, especially since I am theoretically still a member of this squadron...but please read the AfD discussion carefully before coming to this article's rescue. There are good reasons to suggest that it is misplaced, or misguided. Chubbles (talk) 15:35, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

O'Farrell Street
"Let's go to San Francisco..." Warden (talk) 17:20, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Sal's Pizza
–   –   Here's an article that was proposed for deletion, which I declined, because per the topic's source availability and the depth of coverage in many of the sources, it is notable per English Wikipedia's standards. I've improved it and added sources. Additional improvements are appreciated; many sources are available. Northamerica1000(talk) 10:59, 27 April 2013 (UTC)