Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron – Rescue list/Archive 5

 Entries from May 2012 

Note: The entries here are in a basic reverse-chronological order, in which newer entries are posted at the top of the archive .

Leslie Daigle
{| class="wikitable collapsible collapsed" !align="left" width="1550"|The Leslie Daigle article was deleted, with a redirect to California State Assembly elections, 2012 The article has sources but could use a rewrite, there is a campaign it seems to me by several users to repeatedly erase cited content and whitewash the article into a state where it looks like there is not enough sources or content.LuciferWildCat (talk) 20:22, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
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 * The article is locked from any editor editing at the moment, that's pretty rare for something at AfD.--Milowent • hasspoken 20:35, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Speedy close as canvassing: This should not have been tagged for rescue because a) the article is full-protected, and b) It's been tagged once before. It shouldn't be tagged right now  p  b  p  21:13, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You're not an ARS member so your view is dismissed. We know Lucifer is more likely to tag than many other editors, its not helped him unless an article actually can be helped.--Milowent • hasspoken  23:34, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * It is not canvassing. If you are sure of your case, you wouldn't mind having others state their opinions there. Odd to have so many people show up this time at the AFD.  The last one was closed on May 7th 2012, just 16 days ago.  Only one ARS member went there and said keep after LuciferWildCat tagged it.  So claiming that "Previous discussion was closed as no consensus due to ARS canvassin" is obviously in error.   D r e a m Focus  00:04, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * "It's not canvassing" says the guy who voted keep less than four hours after it was ARS tagged...  p  b  p  01:00, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Question LuciferWildCat, have you EVER seen an AfD that you did not immediately nominate for rescue? --MelanieN (talk) 23:23, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * All the time, and if you put any effort into that question you would have easily found I vote to delete articles nearly 40% of the time. PBP is the antagonist here and you are taking his side because perhaps you find it the path of least resistance. Since he has never abided by his agreement to leave me and articles I work on alone and I am more reasonable you are instead blaming me for all that you find wrong in the wiki world. He persistently accuses me of canvassing and that is a personal attack and harassment. He was bothered so much by the rescue feature that he personally lobbied to half way destroy it as a personal vendetta. Rescuing is about finding the sources and reevaluating an overhauled article into a notable state. Constantly opening ten threads about an elephant's toejam is disruptive.LuciferWildCat (talk) 01:11, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a personal attack. Try to remain civil.   D r e a m Focus  23:58, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * She's right in that said user has repeatedly misused the rescue function. p  b  p  01:07, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I have spoken to LuciferWildCat about this before. It is a pattern with him, and I think it may be approaching the point of crying wolf. But that's for the members here to decide. --MelanieN (talk) 04:13, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Why don't you waste your time accusing PBP of misusing the AfD function instead. All I work on is adding more content and improving articles, I have a flare for the hard to cite but that is what wikipedia is about, finding great information about topics that would be difficult to research or unlikely to have more than a one line entry in an encyclopedia. Furthermore over time more content is found by more people but without a landing zone these articles will never properly form. Where there are sources there is a place for articles. Constant acosting by PBP is the only misuse of the project going on here, not efforts to improve.LuciferWildCat (talk) 01:15, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Note This little war between LuciferWildCat and Purplebackpack just escalated onto the talk pages of a bunch of third parties including mine. The enmity between these two is toxic and it is hurting Wikipedia. They have been to ANI about it before. --MelanieN (talk) 15:00, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Topic notability


 * Sources: Some sources about the topic Leslie Daigle:, , , , . Northamerica1000(talk) 15:54, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


 * As of this post (26 May 2012 (UTC)), the article remains as protected, in which only Wikipedia administrators can edit the article. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:13, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * More sources:
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 * Additional new sources This regional coverage further demonstrates the topic's notability, in which the topic now passes WP:BASIC, WP:GNG and criteria #3 of WP:POLITICIAN:
 * Significant coverage from The Orange County Register: Activist outspends 2 candidates in 74th Assembly
 * Significant coverage from The Orange County Register: My take on Leslie Daigle (Published in the news section of the newspaper, not the opinion section)
 * Short article from The Orange County Register: Candidate Daigle gets another $200,000 from Munger
 * Significant coverage: "No clear favorite in 74th Assembly race." The Orange County Register.
 * Significant coverage: "Assembly candidate Daigle gets $178,000 boost." The Orange County Register.
 * Beyond passing mentions: "Eyebrows go up when Daigle mentions Bergeson, Brewer." The Orange County Register.


 * These can be used to expand and improve the article, once the article's full page protection has been lifted. Northamerica1000(talk) 20:51, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Leslie Daigle – Closed as redirect
"'With the history deleted. Most commenters agree that there should not be a separate article on this subject.'"
 * The article's AfD discussion closed as redirect to California State Assembly elections, 2012. The closer's rationale was rather generic:
 * The closer may have possibly based the closure upon a simple !vote count (against Polling is not a substitute for discussion), as there was no analysis whatsoever in the closure about the addition of new sources to the discussion about the topic's notability, and many that !voted apparently didn't revisit the discussion and actually see the new sources. Also, prior to its deletion, the article was under full protection, and no editors other than administrators were able to work on improving it. Then it was removed from the encyclopedia. Northamerica1000(talk) 15:16, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * OMG...ARS isn't the place to editorialize about closures you don't like. And WP:IDONTLIKEIT is about all that this DRV would be running on, whereas the endorsement of the decision has a better than 2:1 consensus behind it.  Do the community a favor and don't start an pointless DRV that will amount to wasting a lot of time, but having the same result as the AfD  p  b  p  21:15, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Most commentators agree shows that the admin considered it a vote to redirect. The closing admin did not consider the arguments validity and this should be taken to DRV on that basis.LuciferWildCat (talk) 19:37, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment: According to |the California Secretary of State's office, Daigle came in dead last in the primary and has been eliminated from contention for the Assembly seat.  p  b  p  17:12, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * A total non-shock, her claim for notability had nothing to do with that particular bid for office.--Milowent • hasspoken 17:51, 6 June 2012 (UTC)


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Squish by froglogic
Another software article being discussed for deletion that would benefit from expansion and the addition of more reliable sources. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:11, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The article was retained in the encyclopedia. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:22, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

FlashFXP
A software article being discussed for removal from the encyclopedia that would benefit from expansion and the addition of more reliable sources. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:09, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Sources added to the article:
 * — Northamerica1000(talk) 14:48, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
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 * The article was retained on Wikipedia. Northamerica1000(talk) 16:44, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Hip pop
A topic of disputed notability. Needs improvement and RS. Northamerica1000(talk) 04:43, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The article was deleted. Northamerica1000(talk) 19:48, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

NuttX RTOS
A lengthy AfD discussion is occurring for this article. Perhaps this WikiProject can help to improve the article and provide more reliable sources to better qualify the topic's notability. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:00, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The article was deleted from the encyclopedia. Northamerica1000(talk) 13:49, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

The Babies
The article is up for vote right now. The band is notable, with sources from The New York Times, New York Observer, and New York Magazine. There seems to be some bias against the group because it isn't some sort of stadium filling act, but an independent garage rock band.Thriley (talk) 06:12, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Please explain further how you think the article can be improved. This WikiProject is not about !voting at AfD discussions, so clarification is necessary. Thanks for your consideration. Northamerica1000(talk) 07:13, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * There is plenty of information from reliable sources to improve the band history. I would do it myself, but I don't have very much time to do it over the next few days. I am worried that it will be deleted before I can improve it. I am asking for assistance in improving the band history. Good sources are provided on the article page.Thriley (talk) 07:21, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarifying your stance, it is appreciated. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:37, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Northamerica1000, that isn't necessary and never has been. Anyone asking for assistance here obviously believes an article to be notable, and wants help find references to prove it.   D r e a m Focus  08:42, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the input. The person did help to clarify what could use improvement within the article, though, and many reliable sources were already present in the article in it's (former) Further reading section (now titled "Additional sources") at the time of the post here. Hence, it didn't appear that a request for source searching was implied in the listing here, because many were already existent in the article. Best, Northamerica1000(talk) 09:40, 19 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The article was retained in the encyclopedia. Northamerica1000(talk) 12:33, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

1/0 (web comic)
Renomination of webcomic by same guy, all arguments the same as previous. Debate on whether an award featured in the New York Times and elsewhere is notable.  D r e a m Focus  11:11, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The article was deleted from the encyclopedia. Northamerica1000(talk) 13:58, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

The Whiteboard
A nominator is renominating various webcomics he previously sent to AFD. This one had notable coverage found in the first two AFDs already.  D r e a m Focus  10:57, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The article was deleted from the encyclopedia. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:25, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Last Res0rt
A webcomic which by webcomic standards I think is notable enough to have a Wikipedia article. One decent reference found already.  D r e a m Focus  23:47, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The article was deleted from the encyclopedia. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:25, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

John Mason (schoolmaster)
This is a stub article on a living person who has served as the headmaster of some of India's most prestigious and important schools. I've not yet had time to check for sources but it seems inconceivable that it's not possible to write an encyclopaedic article about such a person, though sources for India are obviously much less comprehensive than those for the UK. Regardless of sourcing it is important to maintain a balance of articles on Wikipedia to counter the inherent Systemic bias. If anyone has time to help to help out and find sources for this article it would be much appreciated. Dahliarose (talk) 11:15, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The article was retained in the encyclopedia. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:28, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Gabriel Pizza
The article needs more sources to establish topic notability. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:23, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The article was retained in the encyclopedia. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:27, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Mitt Romney Cranbrook incident
Someone decided the issue needed expansion, too much to fit in the main article, so on the Mitt Romney talk page said they create this for it. Valid content fork? I've been working on fixing some of the information to get the whole story. Some help would be appreciated.  D r e a m Focus  15:22, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I am the editor that saw this issue was too big to fit comfortably on existing pages which were already long. My goal has been to keep with the objectives of Wikipedia and carefully negotiate between those that wish to squash anything bad about a candidate that they support, and those that wish to blow up anything bad to support an opposing candidate.  This subject is too big to hide and has filled hundreds of newspapers on the front page and not showing this article is censorship.  The newspaper reporters that worked on this article were carefully reviewed and everything written reviewed by a David Maraniss.  Please return this page along with cross links to page Mitt Romney and Mitt Romney 2012 campaign.Pbmaise (talk) 02:50, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * There is enough valid information to fill in its own article. Its a valid content fork.  And the current version of the article is rather nicely done.  It wouldn't all fit properly in a different article.   D r e a m Focus  03:38, 12 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The article was deleted from the encyclopedia. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:25, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Corinne Narassiguin
French Socialist part's candidate for the 1st time election of a represntative of North American French residents in the upcoming legislative election. &mdash;&thinsp;Racconish&thinsp;Tk 20:18, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The article was retained in the encyclopedia. Northamerica1000(talk) 12:28, 25 May 2012 (UTC)