Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/"Kelly Penguin Girl"

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Speedied as a recreation of previously-deleted content by Zoe. android 79  15:02, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

"Kelly Penguin Girl"

 * Kelly Penguin Girl was nominated for deletion on 2005-07-31. The result of the discussion was "delete".  For the prior discussion see Votes for deletion/Kelly Penguin Girl.

Seems not to qualify for notability, unless her podcast is heard by 5000 people. Can we quantify the number of listeners of podcasts? Zoe 05:50, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and merge into the Linux show. Trollderella 06:48, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge per Trollderella. Nateji77 07:01, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Please don't vote to merge to a nonexistant article. And a podcast is also nn.  Again, the criteria is 5000 listeners.  Zoe 07:04, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Zoe, is it really necessary to have a running commentary of what you think of every vote I make? I think we should create the article, kicking the subject up a level, and keeping the factual and accurate material, as per the deletion policy. You disagree, that's great, you voted. Let's leave it at that. Trollderella 07:19, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * It's necessary to comment on every incorrect vote, when the vote is in opposition to deletion policy. But then, you think every road in the world should have an article, so why am I surprised that you think that every podcast in the world should have its own article?  And I have to ask again, what article do you want to merge this into?  Zoe 07:22, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * I'd like to merge it into Linux User Show, as per deletion policy. I don't think I want to spend any more time discussing this with you, I don't think it's very productive. Why don't we both go and spend some time writing articles? Trollderella 07:27, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * How can you "merge" into a nonexistant article? And I have to ask again, how many people hear that podcast?  If it's less than 5000, then it fails WP:CSD.  Zoe 07:30, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * By creating the article, and moving this information into it, along with more, if possible. If it were not likely to lead to more dogged pursuit by you, I would do it myself. I have no idea how many people hear the podcast. Leave it alone - we've both voted, please let others with different opinions to yours be. Trollderella 07:42, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Despite the name, VfD is a discussion, not a simple vote-tallying. Zoe is doing what's natural – attempting to further discussion and figure out your point of view. Also, I feel compelled to remind you, again, that moving or copy-pasting content from a VfD'd article is not wise. android  79  18:35, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Kelly is the quick-witted, funny, counterpoint to Jon's geek-oriented presentation of the Linux operating system for new users. is a complete POV statement and without that all that's left is the fact she's a co-host and the external link. I've got nothing against reviving it and merging if the article on the show is ever created, but right now, I'd have to vote delete based on CSD A1. - Mgm|(talk) 09:53, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, notability not established Sliggy 18:30, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete as recreation of previously-deleted article. Not notable. Merging to a non-existant article is a nonsensical vote; I think you mean "move" or "rename". android  79  12:27, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Uncle G, could you tell us if the previously-deleted article had substantially similar content to this one? android  79  18:42, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * For you to decide for yourselves:
 * Kelly Penguin Girl: Kelly Penguin Girl makes regular appearances on the Linux User Show, a fantabulous podcast. Popularized the term ...
 * "Kelly Penguin Girl": Kelly Penguin Girl is Jon Watson's co-host on The Linux User Show podcast. Kelly is the ...
 * Both articles are 2 sentences long with the same external link. Uncle G 19:31:43, 2005-08-26 (UTC)
 * Create Linux User Show, Merge, and then Delete "Kelly Penguin Girl". CAPS LOCK 18:39, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Not possible. That would require a redirect from "Kelly Penguin Girl" to Linux User Show. android  79  18:42, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Clarification: you can only merge and redirect. Merge and delete is incompatible with the GFDL (see Guide to Votes for deletion). - Mgm|(talk) 07:07, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per android. Dottore So 18:57, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Since the notice at the top of this page indicates that this is a recreation of a previously-VfD'd article, I am going to be bold and speedy delete. Zoe 19:06, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * That CSD criterion only applies to substantially similar re-created articles, which is why I asked Uncle G to check the old page's history. If you would be so kind as to do that, we can avoid having this article end up at VfU. android  79  19:21, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Based on Uncle G's response above, I believe this was an appropriate speedy deletion. android  79  19:35, August 26, 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.