Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/"Proletarian Union" Committee of the Portuguese Marxist-Leninist Communist Organization (in reorganization)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was no consensus. RasputinAXP  c  14:50, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

"Proletarian Union" Committee of the Portuguese Marxist-Leninist Communist Organization (in reorganization)
The title is too long. But seriously, this isn't verifiable and Google returns no hits other than Wikipedia and her mirrors. Mackensen (talk) 23:05, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete and let someone else redo it if they want. - Richardcavell 23:20, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as unverifiable. Bucketsofg✐ 00:09, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, verifiable. See, --Soman 09:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, no context and no verifiability in English. Stifle (talk) 11:06, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, English language support for verifiability is necessary. The title is also too long (possible bad translation, I don't know). A complete redo might save the article,  but only if it was verifiable in English. Cool3 20:30, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep - Where does it says that English language support for verifiability is necessary? Please tell me that, I would like to know. In WP:RS we can find ... foreign-language sources are acceptable in terms of verifiability, subject to the same criteria as English-language sources.. Don't create your own policies. This article is verifiable! It is a valid article, political parties are notable. And by the way, the title is perfectly translated. Cheers! Afonso Silva 21:01, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You are indeed right about the actual text of the official policy. However, when a topic has no verifiability in English that raises immediate notability flags in my mind.  When a purported organization title gets no google hits, that probably means the organization isn't notable or someone has translated the title incorrectly.  For that reason, I have stressed the need for English sources.  If the title was translated perfectly (which I believe it probably was), doesn't it concern you that no one else in the English speaking world with an internet connection seems to know or care about the "Proletarian Union" Committee of the Portuguese Marxist-Leninist Communist Organization (in reorganization)?  The other reason that I have asked for English language sources is that I, and probably most English language Wikipedia readers, can not read Portuguese.  While I always try to assume good faith, believing an article solely on the basis of sources I can't understand is difficult for me.  If several Portuguese speaking Wikipedians will independently confirm the content of the sources, I am willing to accept that the article is verifiable and concentrate solely on notability concerns. Cool3 17:55, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - what needs to be clarified is if this was the faction that took part in the 1979, 1980 and 1983 elections as OCMLP. I beleive its most probably so, since I can't find trace of any other OCMLP faction after 1976. --Soman 08:06, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * This isn't the best place to have this discussion. But just to reply: this faction was never a legally recognized party, nonetheless it may have gained the control of the OCMLP. Afonso Silva 21:45, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * But the original OCMLP merged into PCP(R) in 1975. Thus this appears to be the only OCMLP faction retaining that name after 1975. --Soman 21:37, 20 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.