Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/"Shakespeare day"


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. --Bongwarrior (talk) 08:19, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

"Shakespeare day"
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Delete as non-notable event, possibly neologism per WP:NEO and possibly WP:MADEUP Mayalld (talk) 22:14, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

This is not something I made up (see various newspaper references: and there are more) and has been an issue discussed in the media and senior UK politicians, esp in  late 2006. It is not a neologism.

I have nothing to do with theatre, literature or Shakespeare.

This page was "condemned" before the first sentence was even completed (i.e. before I could outline the discussion in national media and by senior politicians of this issue). It is not worth my time trying to do this now that the gauntlet has been thrown down.

The speed of its condemnation suggests to me that the issue here is narrow mindedness of the wiki-executors.

If you were to try adding it to the shakespeare page they tell you there is not enough room!

Comment none of the sources refer to an existing celebration where Elizabethan food is eaten. They refer to a proposed new public holiday. Mayalld (talk) 22:38, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

You are commenting upon something which you condemned before the very first sentence was even completed! You should give people a bit of time to do something before you condemn them for not do anything. Your objectivity as a deletor of wiki articles could be questioned by the speed of your deletion. If you do not like the contents (or do not think them relevant to the newspaper articles) then howabout suggesting ways to make it relevant, rather than just wiping it out?

There is obviously no point doing this now I have got your back up!

I expect that the issue of a shakespeare day will come back to the national media headlines (as it did in 2006) and possibly then to wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eminence2008 (talk • contribs) 22:59, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment The article was nominated for deletion at such an early stage, because it was already clear that it was going nowhere. The only notable thing that could be the subject of an article (the campaign to have the day recognised as a holiday) was clearly not what the article was about, and the subsequent edits show that this was to be a single section amongst many. The single sentence that was written was simply untrue. There is no notable celebration of "Shakespeare Day", involving dressing up, or eating Elizabethan food. The sentence as written was at best talking about a single, local non-notable event, and at worst was invented as what might take place on a hypothetical public holiday. Wikipedia deals in fact and does not engage in crystal ball gazing. The same sentence also made the classic error of all poorly researched articles about him, and stated that he was born on April 23rd. The simple fact is that his date of birth is not known. It is known that he was baptised on April 26th, and some people like to conjecture that he was born on the 23rd both because it ties in with St Georges day, and because it means that he died on his birthday, but such a dating is merely conjecture and artistic licence. You complain about the speed with which it was nominated. The article was nominated as soon as it became clear that there was no hope for its survival. In what way would it have been better to leave it for 24 hours? Had I done that you could have spent a day adding to an article that was still going to be deleted. Mayalld (talk) 11:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete The proposal for a holiday is not the same as a holiday. If and when this becomes something notable, we can write about it then.  Perhaps the article editor - welcome to the Wiki - might spend some time here learning how the Wiki works and what it is, before creating new articles.  In the shorter term, the template promising information for clothes we might wear on Shakespeare Day and food we might eat on Shakespeare Day is unrealistic at best. - Corporal Tunnel (talk) 23:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. When this "holiday" becomes a reality recreate. -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:16, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete at this point. If there is more discussion, write an article. DGG (talk) 01:13, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Article has nearly no content and per above.  Reywas92 Talk  22:59, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.