Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/'The Devil's Dust'


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. PhilKnight (talk) 00:32, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

'The Devil's Dust'

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Doesn't seem to meet the Notability (books) guidelines. E. Fokker (talk) 22:00, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm still learning how to use wikipedia. Am trying to add a page about my novel. nothing is illegal and nothing is copyrighted.Brendan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brendanyates (talk • contribs) 22:34, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. There is no problem here with anything being illegal or a copyright violation. However, there is a problem with ascertaining notability. As the nominator mentioned, there are guidelines Wikipedia uses for judging the notability of books. A novel like this one would most likely satisfy notability guidelines by receiving multiple reviews in major publications. However, this novel is still about a month away from being published and we don't know whether it will get any prominent reviews (whether those reviews are favorable or unfavorable is not that important; what's more important is that they come from major publications). It is also too early to know whether this book will reach any best-seller charts. Furthermore, there is a problem with conflict of interest in this article. This article was created by User:Brendanyates who identifies himself as the author of the book under discussion. This creates a risk that the article is being used to advertise the book, which would violate Wikipedia policy. If this book turns out to be notable after it is published, the article can be re-created at that time. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 22:52, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

I have no influence on how many reviews the book will receive - it's out of my hands, as is the amount spent on advertising, distribution and marketing which all infulence sales. I'm also only giving a brief plot outline; note that I do not review the book in anyway so there is no conflict in interests. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brendanyates (talk • contribs) 23:05, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete It's nothing personal. I think that it's fair to say that nearly every contributor to Wikipedia enjoys writing, and that we all wish the best for anyone who takes it to the next level and gets published, as you have.  To some extent, it's out of our hands as well-- the guideline that we have to follow is Notability (books), which also takes into account things like sales, bestseller listings, widespread discussion in the media, etc.  My guess is that less than one percent of the books that get published every year get a Wikipedia article, simply because thousands of titles are released annually.  For most authors, the reward is in knowing that someone has read their work and enjoyed it.  Mandsford 12:50, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.