Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Çiljeta


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The result was   no consensus. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 17:16, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Çiljeta

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Inadequately sourced BLP and I can't see anything reliable on a quick google search. Borderline A7 but its always better to get a consensus. Spartaz Humbug! 05:20, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep: Çiljeta is to Albania what would be, in popularity, something between Lady Gaga and Britney Spears to the United States. I am an Albanian and there is no one else in this list, that could match the popularity of Çiljeta among young generations. Sources would be less for Çiljeta than for Lady Gaga, yes, but the nominator hurried too much to send this for deletion, as he can see lots of googlehits. Also with a quick search he could have found that the article is in the Albanian, Swedish, and Polish wikipedias already (since 2007, 2010, and 2008 respectively). Tagging for sources would have been a better solution. In the meanwhile I worked to improve sourcing of the article, and hopefully the article will be kept. --Asgjestefalihuaji (talk) 17:00, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep: I would suggest to keep the article, but for sure it needs improvements. The person is a former model - singer - showgirl, always surrounded by paparazzi. Somehow a mini - Kardashian projected in the Albanian environment, but with less gossip and controversies. I think it is fine if she has an article, google hits can show that we are talking about an Albanian celebrity.
 * Meanwhile this Linda Spahiu below should go, I don't know who she is, what she does, etc...but looks like they are visualizing Wikipedia as a promotion tool.
 * My deep sorrow and disapproval goes towards many of the Albanian "wikipedians", which instead of adding or improving articles about prominent historical figures and events, focus on superficial material and topics.Mondiad (talk) 00:26, 25 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete: Much of the content is not sourced, and I found nothing that proved the unsourced content. The article is nearly crossing A1, A7, and A9. The  Triple M  19:39, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment It might help to have comments from unaffiliated people who speak Polish and Albanian so that we could analyse the sources on those Wikipedias' articles. Note that the Swedish article was deleted several years ago.  Nyttend (talk) 22:31, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
 * no the artcle in the swedish wiki is still there.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1003:B021:8214:C08D:2246:AA8E:DA35 (talk) 22:54, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the correction; the link had gone to sv:Çiljeta Xhilaga, which was deleted in 2007. Nyttend (talk) 23:12, 24 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JohnCD (talk) 22:38, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep: I can't see for the life of me what the problem is. I'm seeing an article with a number of sources to the media which satisfy the GNG.  Mondiad's disapproval aside, there is nothing in Wikipedia's policies or guidelines enjoining the creation of otherwise-qualifying articles on subjects some might consider insufficiently weighty.   Ravenswing   22:06, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete and addressing Ravenswing's concern. The articles are not non-trivial which is what both GNG and MUSICBIO required. They're often two paragraphs long. I was ready to vote keep based on the number of references present, but when I clicked through I saw the fluff save http://zhurnal.mk/content/?id=1312916334427. That convinced me to vote delete. If she continues to make anti-Greek statements, she may achieve GNG though. Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:36, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep:GNG satisfied by the many sources that are available for her. I like the Kardashian comparison of Mondiad, and if Kim is notable so should Ciljeta, who, on top of existing, sings. --Perkohesisht ai i vjetri (talk) 02:59, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
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