Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/École des Navigateurs


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. ✗ plicit  11:39, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

École des Navigateurs

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Does not meet WP:GNG nor WP:NORG. The first source is from the school's website, and the second is a trivial mention in a movie.   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 04:10, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Schools and Canada.   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 04:10, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: Being featured on a TV show isn't notable. The only coverage I can find about the school is which talks about it being at risk in a natural disaster... There is coverage of a school in Quebec with a similar name, so finding sources is difficult. I don't see extensive coverage, meaning deletion. Oaktree b (talk) 14:22, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: The article on École des Navigateurs should be deleted because it lacks sufficient notability, providing minimal information beyond basic details about the school, which does not distinguish it from countless other primary schools. Additionally, it fails to meet Wikipedia's guidelines for verifiability and significance, lacking independent, reliable sources that demonstrate its importance. --Assirian cat (talk) 09:55, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

I don't get it. This article has been up for nearly 6 years no issue. It is an important article especially for those that are french and live in Richmond BC. This school is tiny and has not much information on it. When you google its name (especially if you're doing so in Richmond BC) this article is one of the first things to pop up. All this drama about deleting the page for what? It is informative. Leave it alone please. Bob yo (talk) 02:58, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Bob yo you posted this comment here, on the discussion's talk page, not in the actual discussion. Would you like to move this comment?   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 07:09, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes Bob yo (talk) 10:20, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

The Conseil Scolaire Francophone, that operates this school, and the federation of francophone parents in British Colombia has been going to court over the course of 10 years to defend the Canadian right to learn in French regardless if the province you reside in is majority anglophone.

as you can see bellow from this article: https://fpfcb.bc.ca/parenthese-en/legal-case/a-historic-judgment-for-education-in-french-in-canada/?lang=en

The efforts undertaken by the CSF and the FPFCB over a period of ten years were successful, proving that the right to education in French was breached by the Province of British Columbia, and that this right must now be respected. The justices of Canada’s highest court have made it clear: “Children of rights holders recognized under Section 23 [of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms] must have an educational experience truly equivalent to that of the majority, regardless of the size of the school or program in question.”

This ruling was made by the Supreme court to assure francophone Canadians do not get assimilated. I go to wikipedia to get general information and see if what I am searching for exists. while it may not be the only source, it is a widely known website and allows people to know that a topic is at least relevent.

My friend had made this page long ago when we both studied as primary students there. I am now an adult and try to explain my scholarly upbringing to others and how it was unique and special. this is why I added more information to this page as I would like it be more relevant and contain details that assure it will not be deleted.

By deleting this article about École-des-Navigateurs, it would only strength the assimilation of francophone Canadians on west coast.

For those who live in Richmond or the Greater Vancouver area (2.2m population) who may want to relocate to Richmond, they would never know of a fully francophone school near by if the first thing that popped up was no longer this article. It is not only important on a personal level but on a societal and cultural level.

I believe deletion would only cause harm to francophones and should be immensely reconsidered, especially after the additional and substantial information I have added directly from the schools website.

Bellow you can see more information on the supreme court ruling, the federation of parents article and the campaign to support the pursuit of justice for local francophones:

https://decisions.scc-csc.ca/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/18390/index.do

https://fpfcb.bc.ca/parenthese-en/legal-case/a-historic-judgment-for-education-in-french-in-canada/?lang=en

https://causejuridique.csf.bc.ca/index.php/historic-victory-for-b-c-francophones/#:~:text=Vancouver%2C%2012%20June%202020%20%E2%80%93%20In,parents%20in%20their%20claim%20against Alks taboulet (talk) 11:38, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Alks taboulet (talk • contribs) 19:31, May 17, 2024 (UTC)


 * 3 things:
 * This has nothing to do with cultural assimilation. The article was nominated for deletion because it didn't meet notability guidelines, just like pretty much every article here at AfD.
 * Wikipedia is not a indiscriminate collection of information. The deletion of this article will not wipe the school form people's minds.
 * The links you provided have nothing to do with the article. Only articles with significant coverage on the subject can be used to establish notability.
 *   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 11:50, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh I very much agree, but those articles are about the Francophone population in BC, not about this particular school building. That's what we're looking for. Oaktree b (talk) 19:39, 21 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per Oaktree and, ironically, the individual above who advocates keep — who quite tellingly wrote "This school is tiny and has not much information on it". I absolutely agree, and hence I do not believe this meets the standards for inclusion (WP:N). Daniel (talk) 07:28, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


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