Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/École normale supérieure


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was KEEP. postdlf (talk) 23:22, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

École normale supérieure

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Not sourced, not notable, not MOS in many places. Jasper Deng (talk) 01:33, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * More information (and two sources) can be found at École normale supérieure, although this entry has more actual content. Definitely needs sourcing and some POV-culling, but I don't really see how it fails notability. "Not MOS" is also not a reason for deletion. At worst this could be culled to a dab page, but I don't see the need for deletion. Hairhorn (talk) 05:03, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong keep on grounds of clear notability, especially the role of "normaliens" in the administration of French society. One of Tony Judt's late memoirs in the New York Review of Books concerned his time there; he described the institution as an "elite humanist academy … distilling the status and distinction of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Stanford, Chicago, and Berkeley" (link) which seems a reasonable summary. AllyD (talk) 09:44, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment For any lovers of league tables, the ENS ranks just above Carnegie Mellon and UCLA in these World University Rankings 2010. AllyD (talk) 09:55, 3 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep as notable part of the French Higher education system and history. I already added one source and made a raw outline. I made my best to write an introduction that describes what the article is about. The history section is empty but will grow with sources. --Anneyh (talk) 09:52, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment there is an article about École Normale Supérieure the most renown of the currently three écoles normales supérieures. Normalien is the generic term for students in the three schools, but it may be used as considering only the main one... --Anneyh (talk) 09:57, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Did the nominator make any attempt to search for sources wp:before nominating the article? A search on Google Books returns 261,000 hits, including several books specifically about the school and its history. The article needs to be sourced but the topic is definitely notable. Laurent (talk) 12:03, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: did not look for sources. did not expect something French here.Jasper Deng (talk) 17:48, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem, since the no source tag had been there for almost two years, you just assumed somebody else had tried... --Anneyh (talk) 20:54, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * There's alot of articles about things not found in English or the English world. 65.93.12.101 (talk) 02:30, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:24, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
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 * Keep - historic part of the French education system. Clearly notable. When a page is defective we fix it not delete it. TerriersFan (talk) 00:56, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per the above - subject is clearly notable. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 13:33, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.