Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Étienne Trudeau


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The result was   delete. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 16:00, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Étienne Trudeau

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No assertion of notability TB (talk) 16:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  KuyaBriBri Talk 17:11, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions.  KuyaBriBri Talk 17:11, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


 * According to Wikipedia guidlines under deletion/nobability/people/this article in a nutshell:


 * "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject."


 * The article lists secondary sources that are independent of the subject. How much coverage is required for it to be "significant" is debatable, but I see no advantage to anyone in not including Étienne Trudeau. Rick Norwood (talk) 17:14, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The secondary sources listed are all but one genealogies (the remaining one being a photo of probably-non-notable building this person built).  The only claim to notability made is that this person is a distant ancestor of two modern-day notable people.  To my mind, this falls vaguley under the 'being the parent/spouse/child of someone notable doesn't make you encyclopaedic' dictum.    - TB (talk) 08:14, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete, per nom, and WP:NOTINHERITED  PK  T (alk)  13:05, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment: I don't really have a strong conviction one way or the other on this one, but was this the "first Trudeau" in the new world? I might lean towards keeping if this person demonstrates the large length of time Pierre Trudeau's ancestors have been in Canada. That said, such a factoid could probably be incorporated into his article quite reasonably. TastyCakes (talk) 19:40, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. His very distant descendants being famous is not notability. Fences  &amp;  Windows  23:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
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