Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Österreichische Studentenmission


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was No consensus, but noted with slight inclination towards deletion. Also, move to Austrian Student Mission. HappyCamper 18:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Österreichische Studentenmission
Delete - Christian student organization with no claims of notability. Wickethewok 07:02, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Article is still in work - a couple of more things need to be added: history, organization background... Tomzi 07:08, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete There are thousands of Student clubs. Let's not create a page for all of them. jmd
 * This is exactly what I would expect from an encyclopedia. If I wanted to find information for christian movements in austria, if would search for it on wikipedia, i would find probably IFES and ÖSM. If i wouldn't find ÖSM, i would look for larger organisations, if i knew what to look for - like IFES, find the local movement in Austria - voila - i found the ÖSM, and all the background information on it :) Isn't that exactly the same way you would look for birds, trees, animals - everything that splits into sub or local species Tomzi 08:54, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep if expanded. Grafikm_fr 08:30, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * comment this appears to be a national grouping rather than a society at an individual university. (I'm not voting as I'm a militant atheist and therefore biased). Average Earthman 17:35, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep but for God's sake move to Austrian Student Mission. This is the English language Wikipedia.  Smerdis of Tlön 19:32, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - I would like to see some numbers before anyone votes keep, as in, how many people are part of this organization? Wickethewok 19:42, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete unless more evidence is provided of notability; otherwise rename to Austrian Student Mission as per Ihcoyc. --Saforrest 22:03, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep since i created the page. This local christian movement exists already almost 40 years - notable?! Need to look up the details. It's a good idea to move it to Austrian Student Mission, and just redirect from 'Österreichische Studentenmission'. Tomzi 08:24, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Question - do you have any sources in English, so that editors here can verify its notability better? Or, if any editors here speak the language, thats good too.  Wickethewok 08:27, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * The main site for the umbrella organisation is International Fellowship of Evangelical Students. There is not a lot on the ÖSM homepage since the site is organized by the students, maybe more at the homepage of local group in Vienna, but the website is in german, too. Our larger sister organisation in germany publishes a lot, but mostly in german de:Studentenmission in Deutschland (Student Mission in Germany). Even larger is UCCF, the movement in great britain. We have a lot of information, mostly history background aso, in written form (german :)). I will put the most important part in the article. Tomzi 08:46, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - This article is the German equivalent of UCCF and InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. This might be further explained in the article; this might give some potential to the keeping of the article when expanded? SietskeEN 12:51, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, can't see how this group is important or special. Open to change, though. If kept, rename to English. Stifle (talk) 00:14, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable. incog 01:54, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak delete unless actual indications of notability appear. It's a national organisation with (apparently) active branches in most Austrian universities, and would thus make a prima facie case for notability. The websites (I read German) have no info on the number of members, though, and the forum (of the Vienna branch) has 24 registered users. Also, there is no indication of any real-world impact (media mentions, etc.) and it has 453 Google hits. Not very indicative of notability, all this. Sandstein 16:46, 26 April 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.