Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Özlem Çarıkçıoğlu


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. It's snowing out there. (non-admin closure) ~Styyx Talk ? 20:44, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Özlem Çarıkçıoğlu

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Fails WP:NOLYMPICS and WP:GNG Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 20:54, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 20:54, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 20:54, 13 March 2022 (UTC)


 * I'd be happy to do a customised Turkish-language source search but I'd like to see some evidence of a WP:BEFORE first. there are a bunch of articles about her in the Google News search results above. An explanation of why you find these insufficient would be helpful. --GGT (talk) 00:21, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep She is an Olympian, and therefore deserves this article. Please remove your deleteion tag, which is unjustified. CeeGee 07:31, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: More comments on the sources provided? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – AssumeGoodWraith  (talk &#124; contribs) 02:35, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete last October we decided that non-medalers in the Olympics are not considered default notable. So CeeGee's argument totally ignores existing policy. We lack adequate sources here to justify an article. Anyway, articles are not "deserved", they are created when adequate sourcing can be found.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:11, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. The fact that NOLYMPICS no longer covers all Olympians does not mean that a WP:BEFORE is no longer expected. Editors nominating for deletion or !voting delete are expected to clarify why exactly they find any easily accessible sources insufficient. As mentioned above there are a bunch of Turkish-language sources that come up in the Google News results, including a profile of her by TRT. This is prima facie decent enough coverage to meet WP:GNG. Again, it is the onus of those arguing for deletion to put forward a convincing argument about these sources, and if they do, I'll have a deeper look at them and carry out a wider Turkish-language search to look for harder-to-find sources. But users cannot be expected to spend time and carry out comprehensive searches where the very basic requirements for a nomination are not being met. --GGT (talk) 10:57, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. GGT (talk) 11:05, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per GGT. Subject appears to meet GNG with the additional sources. --Enos733 (talk) 21:04, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep per GGT. Subject has adequate references from Turkish media. That she didn't medal at the Olympics doesn't discount her notability and achievements prior to competing. ExRat (talk) 13:21, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per the sensible points made by GGT, ExRat and others. No Great Shaker (talk) 11:03, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Olympics-related deletion discussions. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:06, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep sources look to exist in Turkish about her. In a 2 minute search, I found and, so sure more significant coverage exists about her. Just because the coverage doesn't exist in English, that doesn't make them non-notable. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:44, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per the sources found in Turkish.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 13:50, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - per NSPORT. Sources are not required to be in English. Rlendog (talk) 19:48, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.