Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/İlksen Şermin Özdemir


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The result was delete.  So Why  16:13, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

İlksen Şermin Özdemir

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Non-notable person and fails Fails WP:NHOCKEY. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 20:13, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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 * Keep She officiated at the 2016 IIHF Women's World Championship Division II. CeeGee 11:39, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per CeeGee. It is obvious from this and other mass nominations that nominator didn't bother to do a stitch of WP:BEFORE. This is getting completely out of hand. Smartyllama (talk) 15:09, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete It is obvious to me that this player fails both WP:NHOCKEY and WP:GNG. However if experienced user user:CeeGee can show a GNG pass from Turkish sources than I would be happy to change my mind.  Nearly all of the "mass nominations" have been fails, I at a loss as to what the problem is with sportsfan spending a lot of effort to enforce wikipedia guidelines, and occasionally failing.18abruce (talk) 16:25, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Did you read the article? She's a referee, not a player. Smartyllama (talk) 16:31, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I watched games she officiated in, I assumed that someone who became an international official played as well and was hopeful there was some sort coverage of her bio. It is rather rare that an official would be notable, never mind one who gets assignments at the lowest levels of female competition.  The sources listed as an official do nothing to support GNG, I do not believe that the figure skating ones do either, but I do not have much experience there.  If I am missing something about the figure skating I apologize, but I did try several google searches in english and turkish with no luck.  User:Smartyllama you voted keep, on what basis, you failed to give any.  And to that point neither did CeeGee, other than being an official at a low level tournament when officiating at the top level is not enough to support notability.18abruce (talk) 17:08, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete: No evidence the subject meets the GNG. None at all, and were we going to take anyone to ANI, I'd just as soon it be the people tossing around bad faith accusations when it's plain they've not taken so much as a cursory look at the sources involved.  The GNG stipulates that a source provide the subject coverage in "significant detail" to qualify as supporting notability.  Simple namedrops do not, and never have, qualified.  As far as NHOCKEY goes, even if presumptive notability to any level of women's hockey was accorded (which it is not, save for participation at the Olympic Games, which falls under a different SNG), it provides no presumptive notability for men's play below the topmost pool at the Worlds.  She has, of course, no presumptive notability as a figure skater, WP:NSKATE not granting the same to junior-level competition. Would CeeGee or Smartyllama care to proffer a valid ground upon which to keep the article?   Ravenswing   15:10, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Doesn't come close to meeting NHOCKEY. So baring that needs to meet GNG. I can find no sources that indicate she meets GNG. -DJSasso (talk) 15:36, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per Ravenswing and DJSasso. Deadman137 (talk) 22:45, 12 August 2017 (UTC)


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