Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/100 Greatest TV Moments from Hell


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The result was   delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:27, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

100 Greatest TV Moments from Hell

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Copyright violation, as this is a subjective list and therefore the intellectual property of Channel 4. Such subjective lists are regularly deleted from Wikipedia. I attempted to remove all but the top ten, but was reverted. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 19:48, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

SO I was right your throwing the toys out because I made that edit, back. Problem is its cant really be intellectual property of Channel 4 as I said its a public vote, Me and many others voted for this. I take it you will get rid of the deletion point if the list gets cut back to top ten? Will you provide a direct link to somewhere else on the net which holds this informations, BUT there really isnt, so where are public suppose to read said info>?

I disagree said information is Copyrighted, Information collect is voted by the public, it also does not help that nearly all the other pages in this series are also have the full list. yet you not bothered to delete, clean them up, question them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crazyseiko (talk • contribs) 22:59, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The votes may be collected from the public but the results and the format of their presentation are the intellectual property of the TV company. The existence of other similar articles does not mean that this should automatically be kept (cf. WP:OSE), particularly as they have the same content problems which members have identified here. ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 10:40, 10 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete The nomination is spot-on and if the list itself is removed then what are we left with? A page saying that Channel 4 broadcast yet another programme in which they made a list of various television moments? The article on the series itself, 100 Greatest/100 Worst, gives all the information necessary. ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 00:13, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unacceptable use of non-free text (WP:FU), extends to the "complete or partial recreation of 'Top 100' or similar lists where the list has been selected in a creative manner". Reproduction of the full list in this case is a blatant violation of that guideline. Furthermore, to put the question of potential copyright infringement to one side, the article at present does little to assert the notability of the subject - list excluded, the content amounts to no more than an infobox and three sentences. That in itself probably constitutes a valid reason for deletion. It may well be appropriate to nominate other articles in Category:100 Greatest... (Channel 4 list shows), since several of these media-related "countdown" pages present very similar problems.  Super Mario  Man  22:38, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. This kind of article is the reason why I look at Wikipedia at all. (Assuming the full list can be kept of course) Op47 (talk) 18:34, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:USEFUL. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 22:12, 10 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 20:23, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 20:24, 10 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. No possible sources so the "author" (although they aren't really the author, Channel 4 is)could have made the whole list up just because he felt like making an article on Wikipedia. Also, even though he said that channel 4 made the list, it could be counted as plagiarism and Channel 4 might try and sue him — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naomib1996 (talk • contribs) 12:30, 11 August 2011 (UTC)


 * DeleteI change my vote to delete, This is turning in to a complete fiscal, and just to point out the list is not made, there I have found a website which contain list: http://www.dvdfever.co.uk/100worst.shtml but wait the website could have could have made the whole list up just because he felt like making an article on the internet..... half the stuff on wiki is back up by so called sources on the net, which does not have real enough proof. WILL you be doing the same sort of action to this list?> 100_Greatest_Stand-Ups or Greatest_Comedy_Catchphrases or One-hit_wonder or even 50_Greatest_Comedy_Films.   the original source would have came from here: http://www.channel4.com/programmes/atoz/0-9  but CH4 seem fit not to included this programme anymore, but fore you say I made up the show here is a youtube clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOohGnCkWIQ&feature=related — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crazyseiko (talk • contribs) 20:25, 11 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete, these sort of clip shows are done all the time, and are rarely notable. Daniel Case (talk) 01:35, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
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