Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/101.3 FM Milton, Ontario


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. People are basically arguing WP:TOOSOON. If the station ever launches, easy enough to undelete this. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:57, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

101.3 FM Milton, Ontario

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Delete. Article about a radio station which has received authorization to launch, but still has not actually begun broadcasting as of today -- even on the parent company's website, this station is still marked as "coming soon" and linked only to a press release announcing the original license approval. However, it is not rare for a station to receive CRTC/FCC approval, but then fail for one reason or another to launch before its permit expires, so Wikipedia has more recently established a consensus that a new radio station is no longer eligible for an article until it actually commences broadcasting. No prejudice against recreation if and when that happens, but "proposed stations" like this are not allowed to have articles in advance of launch anymore. Bearcat (talk) 22:50, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions.  WC  Quidditch   &#9742;   &#9998;  23:52, 24 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete; unlaunched stations do not enjoy the presumption of notability assumed for established/operating stations, and it's too soon to determine if the station has, or ever will, launch (they have until May 27, 2017 to do so, barring an extension). There's nothing verifiable out there to indicate this station is broadcasting yet — it doesn't even have call letters yet! -- WC  Quidditch  &#9742;   &#9998;  00:34, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 07:14, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually... Industry Canada just gave it a call-sign. CJML-FM appears on the Spectrum Data Search when you select "Location" and type "Milton" on page 4 of the results.  Looks like it'll be running at 950 watts of power, too. RingtailedFox • Talk • Contribs 21:01, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Having a call sign assigned to it doesn't in and of itself get a still-unlaunched radio station over the WP:NMEDIA bar, just for the record — new stations have crossed that hump but then still failed to ever actually launch. If we could reliably source a definitive launch date, then that might help move the needle here, but the mere fact of having its new call sign assigned to it by Industry Canada doesn't change anything by itself. Bearcat (talk) 20:23, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jujutacular (talk) 02:03, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * For the record, I do suggest that if this article is kept that a move to CJML-FM should probably take place per naming conventions (and, if the article deleted but the station launches under that call sign, that should be the article title for the recreation as opposed to the current one). That said, I still stand by my delete !vote barring any other developments, since getting a call sign is generally one of the easier parts of starting a station; I simply wanted to acknowledge that the current article title was likely intended as a placeholder during a period when no call letters were assigned to the station. -- WC  Quidditch  &#9742;   &#9998;  23:24, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm fine either way... I just thought that getting call-letters means the station is much closer to launching (though I agree, it's not a guarantee it will begin broadcasting). Usually, Industry Canada and the CRTC tend to not issue call-letters until the station is "almost ready" to begin testing or regular operations. RingtailedFox • Talk • Contribs 09:13, 9 September 2016 (UTC)


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