Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1181 Syston Squadron ATC


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The result was delete. Recreated as redirect to Syston where it is mentioned. The Bushranger One ping only 03:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

1181 Syston Squadron ATC

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Cadet training squadron are not notable per previous AfD discussions, contested prod MilborneOne (talk) 20:49, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. MilborneOne (talk) 21:51, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. MilborneOne (talk) 21:51, 19 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. Nothing to indicate encyclopedic relevance. Only routine coverage.--Michig (talk) 07:10, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete there's a longstanding consensus that individual cadet units are generally not notable, and this doesn't appear to be one of the exceptions. Nick-D (talk) 09:00, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Retain Perhaps it is time to re-consider the longstanding consensus that Cadet Units are not notable and treat each with the individuality they deserve? It is acceptable to consider that individual military units have enough encyclopedic content to warrant their own page yet a Cadet Squadron that may service a wide audience of local people is not? I am not suggesting that all cadet units fall into this category, yet it ought to be considered. To not do so, would be an insult to the hard work of many thousands of individuals who are involved in Units of this type. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.149.30.153 (talk) 09:36, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment The key issue when considering whether Wikipedia should have an article on a military unit of any kind is whether the unit has received sufficient coverage in reliable sources to meet the notability guideline WP:ORG. In practice, very few cadet units do. Deletion of articles on notability grounds shouldn't be considered a slight against whatever the topic of the article is - it just means that there isn't sufficient evidence to demonstrate that that it should be covered in this encyclopedia. Nick-D (talk) 07:00, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Indeed, this was a process that was undergone after the original uploading of the entry and it satisfied the requirements at that point, I suspect due to the national coverage gained by the unit. I imagine more can be inputted if required. It should also be noted that a cadet unit has a standing in the local community more akin to an educational establishment rather than a military unit. This gives it more encyclopedic interest than an equivalently sized military unit, such as a company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.137.193.6 (talk) 20:37, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - It is still unlikely to be notable enough for a stand-alone article but a mention in the Syston article may be ok. The current entry at Syston doesnt explain why it is notable to the town more so then all the other similar youth organisations. MilborneOne (talk) 20:51, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Individual cadet units are not notable. Most regular company-sized units would not be notable either. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:42, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete -- Clearly NN. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:01, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - NN and as per Nick-D. Buckshot06 (talk) 23:23, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
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