Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/11th Ward, Chicago


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Qwaiiplayer (talk) 13:15, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

11th Ward, Chicago

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WP:NGEO doesn't directly address electoral districts, but I contend that municipal wards (even for large cities like Chicago) are not inherently notable unless they independently pass the WP:GNG. Edge3 (talk) 16:03, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages:

Edge3 (talk) 21:34, 6 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Edge3 (talk) 16:03, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. Edge3 (talk) 16:03, 6 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment: I would recommend this be a batch nomination with the other wards at Category:. Curbon7 (talk) 21:18, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks! Edge3 (talk) 21:34, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak keep unless there's some other guideline or consensus about wards I think they do fall under legally recognized places, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom/Archive 10. Wards tend to have more artificial boundaries than municipalities or even district though and there tends to be less coverage on them.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 21:20, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your input. Just FYI, I've changed this to a batch nomination as per Curbon7's suggestion above. Edge3 (talk) 21:34, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, the same points probably apply to all 3 (out of 50) of them we have articles for but 4th Ward, Chicago does include more content and sources than this one.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 21:40, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Victor Grigas (talk) 00:09, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep, I started the article in 2015, and yesterday after I got an email saying it was up for deletion I did some googling about the ward and OH WOW what a corrupt haven of politically-connected criminal endeavor! Local news seems to mention it regularly! It just so happens to be the center of the Daley Machine. Aside from that, I would argue that local wards within cities are notable, each has unique histories, demographics and characteristics, this particular one has been the center of political power in Chicago for decades. I haven't had time to congeal everything I googled to expand the current article yet but here's a link dump anyone can use to improve the article (hysterically there's even a has-your-alderman-been-indicted website in an article that specifically mentions the 11th ward):
 * https://wgntv.com/news/chicagocrime/has-your-alderman-been-indicted-this-website-answers-that-for-you/
 * https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Daniel-Bliss-3/publication/253342850_The_New_Daley_Machine_1989-2004_by/links/562a743608ae04c2aeb1a7c9/The-New-Daley-Machine-1989-2004-by.pdf
 * https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/criminal-justice/ct-alderman-patrick-daley-thompson-federal-probe-20210429-j5euehymabc7djhc4xhm2fdrau-story.html
 * https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-politics/patrick-thompson-daley-city-council-11th-ward/1985149/?amp
 * https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20150407/bridgeport/patrick-daley-thompson-wins-11th-ward-election.amp/
 * https://news.wttw.com/2015/01/20/race-representing-11th-ward
 * https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-politics/get-to-know-your-ward-11th-ward/113666/
 * https://www.google.com/books/edition/American_Pharaoh/nGem2g467GAC?hl=en&gbpv=1
 * Weak keep WP:GEOLAND does not specifically mention political districts like this, but does state Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable. I suppose a ward is a legally recognized settlement that is different than a settlement without legal recognition such as most neighborhoods, which require GNG standards. It's best to follow guideline on close calls like this. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 04:18, 14 September 2021 (UTC)


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