Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/14th Kansas Militia Infantry Regiment


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The result was merge to List of Kansas Civil War units. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 13:15, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

14th Kansas Militia Infantry Regiment

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Marginally passes WP:MILUNIT as a regiment, although MILUNIT is not a hard-and-fast rule, and there's examples where it's overruled. For instance, artillery batteries in the American Civil War are generally considered to be notable per MILUNIT, but see Articles for deletion/Zesch's Militia Battery Kansas Light Artillery, which was deleted (and later redirected). From what I've seen with the military history articles, militia units are also generally considered to be below regular units because of their more temporary nature. This regiment appears to have been a very temporary one: It was in service for about three weeks during Price's Raid and never saw combat. The only thing I can turn up in reliable sources is the two-line entry in Dyer's Compendium here. this book is complied from Wikipedia content. Note that this is unrelated to the 14th Kansas Volunteer Cavalry Regiment, which easily passes notability. I think ACW units are interesting, and I have quite a few GAs on these units, but I don't think this one is notable. Hog Farm Bacon 02:13, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm Bacon 02:13, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
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 * Redirect to List of Kansas Civil War units. Not notable, saw no action, fails GNG. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:27, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect per peacemaker. Only existed 20 days, so not much to say about it I would guess. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  02:37, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge with List of Kansas Civil War units: As Hog Farm mentions, many of the units listed at List of Kansas Civil War units saw no combat. To avoid losing context, I suggest merging all the units that are in the same situation as this one to the list (all units with little coverage would be merged). I don't think there's enough to justify stand-alone articles, but we don't have to leave readers with no information at all. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:12, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge -- The list article might be better for being divided into unit types each with a sentence or two about their service - dates of raising and disbandment in all cases and details of service for those that do not justify an article. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:54, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect. Usually I would support standalone articles on battalion-sized units per WP:MILUNIT, but this unit only existed for twenty days. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:55, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge; on a related note, perhaps we need a consensus on how long a unit that saw no combat could exist and still be notable. I would suggest an upper limit of 89 days or less, as many ACW units were raised for three months' service. RobDuch (talk·contribs) 04:38, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above. This seems common-sense. —Brigade Piron (talk) 17:41, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect seems to be the best answer here. A sensible "search term" for redirect but lack of real detail and sourcing points to merge.--Paul McDonald (talk) 00:56, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge -- I support Peterkingiron's idea of making a single article of the Kansas state militia units. Although little online information may be found about them, that doesn't necessarily indicate that they have no interest to modern scholarship (Zesch's Battery, for example, was an African American artillery battery; unusual for Kansas at that time). The muster roll records for the militia regiments are available online through the Kansas State Historical Society's Kansas Memory project at: 14th Kansas Militia Infantry for example. Spacini (talk) 17:44, 8 September 2020 (UTC)


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