Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/17 Seconds


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Grey's Anatomy (season 2). Black Kite (talk) 23:38, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

17 Seconds

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Same problems as Articles for deletion/Let the Angels Commit:"Tagged as failing WP:GNG. Does not seem notable outside of being an episode of Grey's Anatomy." Curb Chain (talk) 00:50, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete No indication of wp:notability of/for a separate episode like this. Zero references.  Looks like part of mass-production of articles on individual episodes with some material duplicated across articles. North8000 (talk) 04:01, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep contracting the plot section a little--it would make it easier to follow the relationships. And adjusting the emphasis. It needs to be indicated by the writing that this episode holds one of the critical plot developments--even the episode title hints at it. Careless article writing, almost as careless as the deletion nominations. I agree that in many of these series it's hard to tell one episode from another, but that's all the more reason for doing it carefully to not miss things like this.  DGG ( talk ) 05:22, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I have not seen any keep arguments per WP:N. Have you even seen viewed the episodes?  I certain have seen all of them of season 1, 2 and 3.Curb Chain (talk) 07:30, 5 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. Nothing from a third party indicates this is a notable episode. The GBook hits are WP mirrors or TV Guide type listings. Drmies (talk) 15:13, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 12:54, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete No attempt to establish notability. Needs independent sources.  Tigerboy1966  18:46, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete due to absence of notability. Cloudz 679 10:45, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: Numerous Grey's Anatomy episodes have been serially nominated. More general discussion can be found at Articles for deletion/If Tomorrow Never Comes (Grey's Anatomy).--Milowent • hasspoken  14:00, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep or redirect to season article. With all the serial noms, I do not have time to check each one for notability.  But even any that are not notable should be redirected to the season article per WP:TVEP. Rlendog (talk) 21:17, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Grey's Anatomy (season 2). Nothing about this particular episode is individually notable.  See also my comments at Articles for deletion/If Tomorrow Never Comes (Grey's Anatomy).  Liv it ⇑ Eh?/What? 00:50, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.