Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1898 Baloch uprising


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:18, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

1898 Baloch uprising

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Only contains one source with an insignificant mention, no suitable sources to be found online. Fails WP:GNG. RealKnockout (talk) 13:58, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
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 * Comment -- If real, I would expect this to be notable. However it contains a great number of redlinks (which is worrying).  If real, I would expect it to be covered in contemporary newspapers in India, but I have little idea where to look for these.  I note that the normal English spelling is Baluchistan, so that this may need renaming.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:36, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I find nothing in GScholar, using either Baloch uprising, Baluchistan, Balochistan uprising. There would be something written about it in a historical scholarly journal by now if it was important... Oaktree b (talk)
 *  Weak keep. This appears to have been a real event of some significance. It's discussed in detail in some self-published books (e.g. The Baloch and Balochistan), but also in some more reliable sources such as Baloch Nationalism: Its Origin and Development (2004) and Contemporary History of Balochistan (1994). (I searched for "Mir Baloch Khan" and "1898"). pburka (talk) 20:21, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I think that Honor the Baloch, Buy the Pushtun: Stereotypes, Social Organization and History in Western Pakistan is discussing the same event on page 662 which is described as a "conflagration" in 1897 and 1898 which the British suppressed with 60,000 troops. There's also a detailed history on this blog which again appears to be the same conflict. It cites a number of primary and secondary sources which could be used to expand our article. pburka (talk) 21:48, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. My search for "Mir Baloch Khan Nousherwani" also threw similar results as listed by pburka. (The Baloch and Balochistan) confirms the incident did happen with at least 300 casualties. That itself should qualify the article to be kept. --Venkat TL (talk) 19:32, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep The mention in Titus' 1998 text is different and covers a much wider Pathan rebellion (NB Balochistan is a different region). There's also a broader set of events happening in Balochistan at this time, but what the article focusses on is an event from January 1898 where there is clear reliable sourcing. The title of the article could possibly do with changing (the event is also referred to as the Battle of Gok Prosh, the Battle of Gokprosh and the Makkoran revolt) and no doubt the text needs editing...but none of that is the point of AfD. A comment in good faith: more WP:BEFORE necessary.


 * Regards,--Goldsztajn (talk) 23:22, 25 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect - Rebellions in colony were very frequent and almost always, the brutal suppression by the empire inflicted mass-casualties. Yet, for most of them, we cannot write more than a couple of decently sourced lines. Redirect to History of Balochistan where it might be covered in context. TrangaBellam (talk) 07:49, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, a notable rebellion, discussed in multiple books.Jackattack1597 (talk) 21:55, 28 September 2021 (UTC)


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