Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1937 St. Louis Cardinals season


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep, WP:SNOW close, non-admin closure. The Thing //  Talk  //  Contribs  22:44, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

1937 St. Louis Cardinals season

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Wikipedia is not an almanac. There are a lot of similar articles at WikiProject Stubsensor; this is not a blanket nomination, but if the outcome is overwhelmingly towards deletion, a blanket nomination might follow (i.e. this is a test case, selected from the stubsensor list; there isn't any reason for this page as opposed to some other "foo season" article, but you have to start somewhere.).  N Y  Kevin  @256, i.e. 05:08, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep, needs improvement if sufficient sources are available; WP:NSPORTS, §6.2 seems to address this. Right now the article is very little more than a statbox for the season; it's hard to say, though, if sources for the '37 season are going to be available to give sufficient information.  Aeternitas827 (talk) 08:13, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Placeholder articles have been created for all team-seasons in baseball history. The intention is to flesh them out over time, but the process will be lengthy. There is no question that sources exist to do so. Just because it hasn't been done yet is no reason to delete the work that has been done thus far. -Dewelar (talk) 15:02, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Where does it say that Wikipedia is not an almanac? Agree with the others that some of these season pages need work, especially the older ones, but it's an ongoing long-term project of WP:BASEBALL and deleting this would set a precedent of deleting them all, even the fleshed out ones. --Muboshgu (talk) 15:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. Wknight94 talk 15:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions.  —Muboshgu (talk) 15:39, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep, I added a couple sources to the article and added some prose so those issues have been fixed. Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 16:02, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. Quote: "Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia. It incorporates elements of general and specialized encyclopedias, almanacs, and gazetteers." From WP:5P. Simply put, the nominator is incorrect, Wikipedia is an almanac to a degree. And there's nothing indiscriminate here; it's an oft-incorrectly used argument. "Indiscriminate" refers to factiods such as "Shia Lebeouf's favorite food is chicken". (Not an actual researched fact, just an example of the pointless trivia that has no greater bearing at all.) A systematic, ongoing effort by a Wikiproject to write a well-researched article about each season for each MLB team is very discriminate as it's a finite set of information with established inclusion criteria. Yes, this article is in a placeholder-ish state, but there's no deadline to get it better, and indeed, deletion would set a horrible precedent that would undermine the entire ongoing efforts of the Wikiproject. Bad idea.oknazevad (talk) 16:37, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Wow I am somewhat surprised by this nomination, since wikipedia is part almanac as per the 5 pillars "Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia. It incorporates elements of general and specialized encyclopedias, almanacs, and gazetteers." This information is discriminate as its specifically about the 1937 St. Louis Cardinals which are a major league team. I think this is a case of mistaken understanding of what wikipedia is. -DJSasso (talk) 17:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. Spanneraol (talk) 18:21, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. References and notability clearly shown. First Light (talk) 19:32, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. Very notable since it is a season of a MLB team. All seasons of a major sports team should be kept. Jeremy McClean (Talk) 20:21, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep as a notable and referenceable topic. The nominator should strike the incorrect and misleading bluelink claim that Wikipedia is "not an almanac," since it is, to some extent, and that has long been included in the description of what Wikipedia is. Edison (talk) 20:28, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.