Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1950 Coppa Acerbo


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The result was keep. Going with keeps. Please improve and consider examining Italian sources. Missvain (talk) 22:53, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

1950 Coppa Acerbo

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I might be very incorrect on this one due to time/language barriers, but I can't find any additional sources which demonstrate this specific event passes WP:GNG. SportingFlyer  T · C  22:33, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Motorsport-related deletion discussions. SportingFlyer  T · C  22:33, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep It's a Formula One event involving a full field of then-current F1 drivers, all but one of whom are notable. Per WP:SPORTSEVENT some games and series are inherently notable, which I am sure includes Formula One. That said, more sources need to be found. They are out there, because this was a big race at the time. Races of this type are often not well served by the internet, particularly races on the continent, but there will be book sources, if interested editors have them. Bretonbanquet (talk) 00:55, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Also note that this race has other titles, such as the 1950 Pescara Grand Prix or 1950 Circuito di Pescara. There's even a video of highlights of the race . Bretonbanquet (talk) 01:15, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Brief race report here in Italian. Bretonbanquet (talk) 01:17, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Which books or newspapers might have sources? I'm happy to withdraw this if some are found, but WP:SPORTSEVENT would defer to WP:NSPORT which ultimately require the GNG to be demonstrated. The sources so far seem primary, fail WP:SPORTCRIT, or are blog posts, but if there's some evidence we can expand this with WP:RS I'm happy to withdraw. SportingFlyer  T · C  09:40, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Any contemporary season reviews, or weekly/monthly motor sport magazines would have covered the race, particularly as HumanBodyPiloter5 says below, those on the continent, particularly in Italy. It was a big race at the time. Bretonbanquet (talk) 20:56, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Strongly leaning towards keep - A simple look at the entry list shows that this is almost certainly a notable event, although significant coverage is likely to be limited to older print sources and those sources are likely to be mostly in French or Italian. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 18:37, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep For all the reasons noted above; an F1 race contested by top-level drivers though not part of the World Championship as the Italian GP would have counted for that. Should be noted that this was the first year of the World title and at this point the non-champ races were a continuation of previous season events and would have not lacked in prestige. Needs sourcing; I have added an EL to Motor Sport (magazine)'s database but race report is harder to find. Almost certain that Denis Jenkinson would have reported on it. Eagleash (talk) 12:26, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It's worth commenting that in the early years of the World Drivers' Championship the prestige of World Championship events wasn't particularly greater than that of non-championship events. Indeed a recent (paywalled) Autosport article made a note of how in the 1950s and 1960s many Formula Two events were considered to be of similar importance to Formula One Grands Prix. Today records of World Championship races tend to be easier to find because they fit more snugly into a simplified statistical narrative whose revisionist paradigm stems from the current perspective where Formula One is the World Championship and where top-level Grand Prix drivers rarely race outside that series. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 03:34, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I linked this to the Italian/Czech/Slovenian wikis, but there were no additional GNG-qualifying sources there. A search in English brought up nothing about this particular race apart from results. Not disputing the keep necessarily, an Italian archive search might be prudent here though. SportingFlyer  T · C  13:20, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep This is an early version of a Formula One event with top level drivers participating. --Whiteguru (talk) 10:34, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 00:37, 19 May 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 00:16, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep I did find a few sources which could help fill out the article. Dylan1496 (talk) 20:15, 3 June 2021 (UTC)


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