Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1977 (band)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. StarM 04:55, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

1977 (band)

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KISS tribute band. Doesn't appear to meet WP:MUSIC. Some reviews, but nothing in a major, reputable magazine. ➨ ❝ ЯEDVERS ❞ a sweet and tender hooligan 23:10, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:MUSIC. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 23:49, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to You're gonna wind up working in a gas station!--Goodmorningworld (talk) 01:08, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, article fails to establish notability as per WP:MUSIC.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 08:24, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails both WP:MUSIC and WP:MUSIC; very little in terms of actual encyclopedic content. Majorclanger (talk) 11:37, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Is this the right place to respond?Alexander Coin (talk) 12:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes! You may like to read WP:MUSIC before you contribute, but we're happy to hear from you regardless. ➨ ❝ ЯEDVERS ❞ a sweet and tender hooligan 12:07, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your pleasant and timely response. As I hope you realize, my presence here at Wikipedia is very recent and I am still familiarizing myself with many of the accepted protocols. The page you referred to; WP:MUSIC also states...

This page in a nutshell:
 * A musician or ensemble is notable if it has had some sort of recognition by professional organizations, such as music charts.
 * Notability is met if the musician has been the subject of a broadcast by a media network.

1977 (band) is published with, and recognized by, ASCAP and although there is no evidence, currently included in the article, two (2) tracks from the 1977 (band) debut album have been in light rotation with Next Media Broadcast Company since it's release date. The reason this is not currently included is because I need still need to gather the proper, third party, reference materials for this fact.

Furthermore, the article titled Wikipedia: Notability states:

Notable means "worthy of being noted" or "attracting notice." It is not synonymous with "fame" or "importance." Please consider notable and demonstrable effects on culture, society, entertainment, athletics, economies, history, literature, science, or education. Large organizations are likely to have more readily available verifiable information from reliable sources that provide evidence of notability; however, smaller organizations can be notable, just as individuals can be notable, and arbitrary standards should not be used to create a bias favoring larger organizations.

The 1977 (band) definitely falls into the category of "attracting notice". A Google Search of "1977 Rock 'N Roll" may help to clarify this.

I hope it can be agreed that the article in question is currently limited in content, but it should be realized that it is all factual. Nothing has been fabricated.

I would like to suggest to all concerned that the current status of this article be viewed as a stub rather than be deleted. Thank you. With all due respectAlexander Coin (talk) 13:43, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * You haven't really addressed the points that WP:MUSIC and the deletion nomination are making. A search for "1977 Rock 'N Roll" produces only one hit I could see relating to this band. And that hit is not to a reliable source, it's to a sales site. You need to point to where the band has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the ensemble itself and reliable to Wikipedia's standards. If you can do that, you're usually in. Any of the other 11 points would be good to get as well; so far you've only got point 11: Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network. And even there you can't prove it, as you've said yourself. ➨ ❝ ЯEDVERS ❞ a sweet and tender hooligan 14:13, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


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