Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1977 Arizona armored car robbery


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The result was keep. North America1000 15:06, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

1977 Arizona armored car robbery

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Article has been unsourced forever (though obviously sources do exist). Topic is a not-unusually-significant crime, covered in the style of a tabloid newspaper in violation of WP:SENSATIONAL. Clear-cut violation of WP:NOTNEWS. JBL (talk) 14:51, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. JBL (talk) 14:51, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. JBL (talk) 14:51, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Keep Its notable as per refs I have now added. I can't find coverage from time but can find stuff afterwards - Wp:before. Why it had to come to afd before anyone did anything? Davidstewartharvey (talk) 16:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - Definitely notable, significant, sustained coverage exists for this case (particularly its aftermath, the stays of execution etc.), See, e.g., 1 2 3 4. Also Rename to Murder of Russell Dempsey and Cecil Newkirk or something similar, since the reason this case is notable is the murders, not the robbery. Agree the nom should have done WP:BEFORE and added the refs themselves - some people just have the attitude that if an an article has no refs then it should be deleted without ever considering adding refs themselves, thanks to Davidstewartharvey for doing the necessary work. FOARP (talk) 19:29, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Close as Keep With the new sources, there is no question that it meets notability criteria. Early closure should be considered Acebulf (talk) 01:22, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, meets WP:GNG, article now reflects this with the sources added (thanks to above editors), suggest though, that article is too detailed and needs some pruning. Coolabahapple (talk) 14:26, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Coolabahapple I agree, just didn't have the time to rewrite. A lot of detail in article which is not available in reliable refs on the net, think article was written by someone writing the storyline of the FBI files. Davidstewartharvey (talk) 07:06, 28 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep May need more sources but with only two other brothers ending the same way in Arizona, I can say it is encyclopedic. Nika2020 (talk) 01:43, 1 July 2020 (UTC)


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