Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1998 Little League World Series Champions


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to 1998 Little League World Series. Spartaz Humbug! 20:00, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

1998 Little League World Series Champions

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Delete: The players on the team fail WP:N and this team specifically should not have their own separate page. If anything this should be merged with 1998 Little League World Series but even then I think that's asking too much. If you look at the page edit history, you'll see that the moniker Cardone22 created the page, and one of the players listed on the roster was a child named Christopher Cardone. It's biased and trivial anyway. Jrcla2 talk 22:03, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Verifiable information that is notable can be placed in 1998 Little League World Series.Location (talk) 22:09, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * delete and merge the nickname information, if verifiable, with 1998 Little League World Series. Niffweed17, Destroyer of Chickens (talk) 22:45, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge some of this to 1998 Little League World Series, which has plenty of room. The roster seems worthwhile to have, and the names of the team members can be verified at LittleLeague.org Zagalejo^^^ 03:41, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Question: How is the roster notable? The only player that is worth keeping after the merge is Todd Frazier, who has his own article for other reasons. I'm just wondering because simply being able to verify the official roster list doesn't mean it's notable. Jrcla2 talk 04:14, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I just think depth of coverage is a good thing. Individual elements within an article don't fall under the scope of WP:N. Granted, most of the names won't mean much to anyone outside of New Jersey, but I don't understand why removing such information would improve Wikipedia. A LLWS roster is not substantially different than the detailed coverage we provide at our Olympics articles. I'm sure most of the names at Table tennis at the 2008 Summer Olympics – Men's singles are meaningless to the vast majority of our readers, but they're there, anyway! And I think that's pretty cool. Zagalejo^^^ 04:30, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand that parts of whole articles most often cannot stand alone as notable. I guess I am just seeing your argument, but from the other side: why would keeping such trivial information improve Wikipedia? They're all essentially non-notable kids other than having been on a roster that won the LLWS. And, not to sound like a jerk because that is not my intention at all in saying this, but your argument about the table tennis players doesn't really apply here because all of those men are Olympians (even though it is a less popular sport). Each one of those table tennis Olympians can rightfully have their own WP page if someone felt like making them, whereas the kids on the roster on this AfD page could not. Also, and I'm aware this isn't going to factor into whether this article should be deleted or not, but I'm from New Jersey and none of those names mean anything to us either, unless you're from Toms River. Just saying. Jrcla2 talk 06:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge roster to 1998 Little League World Series. Just because most of the individual players don't warrant individual articles is no reason to exclude verifiable information on the team roster.  Many articles mention individuals that are not individually notable for their own articles.  And the guidelines for lists explcitily permit lists whose reason for being is that they include subjects that would not be notable enough for their own articles. Rlendog (talk) 16:14, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep I think that a team that has won the Little League World Series is easily notable enough for its own article, given the recognition in books and the media of that annual event. Merger is also an option, although I'm not sure how long a paragraph about the team would last within an article about the series itself.  If kept, then move the title to something that doesn't make a secret of Toms River, New Jersey. Mandsford (talk) 16:23, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge. I don't believe an individual team is notable. Secret account 16:18, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.