Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1st Circle


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Discussion seems tugged between merge, keep and delete. No real consensus can be divined from this. Default to keep. Protonk (talk) 09:14, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

1st Circle

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Article about roundabouts. See also 2nd Circle, 3rd Circle,....8th Circle.

Per OUTCOMES, bus stations and county roads aren't notable. I don't think roundabouts are either. -Unpopular Opinion (talk) 13:12, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete All as utterly NN Mayalld (talk) 13:19, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Only 1st Circle and (because I moved it from Proposed Deletion to here) 2nd Circle are under discussion here. The AFD notice has not been applied to the other articles. Uncle G (talk) 18:29, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Addendum: 8th Circle was listed at Proposed Deletion, too, so I've attached that to this discussion. However, the other articles have yet to be nomniated. Uncle G (talk) 18:32, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment all of them have been on PROD, the ones you didn't mention were unprodded. 76.66.195.159 (talk) 05:18, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete all - completely non-notable and unreferenced. Also delete th e associated template. - fchd (talk) 17:42, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep at least 3 thru 8 Looking at the other articles in this group at least the 3rd through 8 are major streets in the city. Possibly the others are also, but it isn't clear. Please look at ALL the articles--some have major government buildings, and are in fact named squares. Yes, perhaps the city planners should have used distinctive names for them all, but that's not reason for deletion. Compare Dupont Circle, Washington, D.C. DGG (talk) 12:23, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * A Couple of Options:
 * Keep and improve to the standard of the other Circle articles. This is posiible, as there are a few references out there.
 * Keep and rename to something like '1st Circle, Amman' or the Circle's official name (Abdullah II Municipal Square or something) as well as adding references and improving.
 * Merge and delete I believe it would also serve these articles justice to have one article (Amman Circle System or the like) with a section for each circle.
 * I really believe these articles need saving because at least half of the Amman places articles link to thems, and deleting them would be a huge mistake. Thanks and happy holidays! Bob Amnertiopsis ∴ChatMe! 15:29, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. How about writing the article Zahran Street, Amman and merging all the "Nth Circle" articles there? I'm sure that street is notable enough as it has so many roundabout :) --Unpopular Opinion (talk) 15:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * That's the aproach that I was considering, too. There's isn't much source material that I can find on the individual circles.  What source material I can find on the circles as a group indicates that treated individually the circles, and indeed individual roads in the city, will be a naming nightmare, because there are a set of official names for everything, that (apparently) no-one uses, and a set of unofficial names that everyone uses, but that aren't officially documented.  Best as an article on streets and circles/squares of Amman as a whole, I think. Uncle G (talk) 18:24, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete all possibly mention their existence at List of roads in Amman. 76.66.195.159 (talk) 05:18, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment when all of these are deleted, please remember to delete the template Amman Roundabouts that interlinks them all. 76.66.195.159 (talk) 05:20, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong keep all. "When all of these are deleted" is a bit presumptious. I don't like that attitude, seven six six six one nine five one five nine. At the very least they should be merged as they are notable roundabouts. But definitely not deleted. --Balloholic (talk) 16:28, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I agree with Ballohollic, and I think that Uncle G has really made the point. My opinion: the circles have one article called 'Amman Circle System' that is not a list, that talks about the circles, their locations and, if possible, the history of the circles as a whole. Otherwise, 'List of Roundabouts in Amman' should do. Happy New Year! Bob Amnertiopsis ∴ChatMe! 23:30, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Non-notable and excessive Scapler (talk) 16:58, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * delete - non-notable. Jason Quinn (talk) 22:34, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge as per proposals - I am all for discussions, and the two last delete votes here disregarded the useful discussion towards a merge - which seems like a sensible solution to the notability issues raised (ie DGG's comment). I agree with the merger proposals, and suggest the closing admin gives due weight to useful discussion over votes. Thanks!--Cerejota (talk) 02:59, 27 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.