Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/20-GATE


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The result was merge to Bendix G-20. North America1000 03:35, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

20-GATE

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Non-notable programming language. Fails WP:GNG. Unable to find any sources whatsoever other than wiki and other user-provided information sites. Even CMU's (where the language was created) website has little to no mention of the language. A [//web-search.andrew.cmu.edu/search?q=%2220-Gate%22&btnG=Search&entqr=3&entsp=a&sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&output=xml_no_dtd&client=default_frontend&ud=1&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&proxystylesheet=default_frontend&ulang=en&entqrm=0&wc=200&wc_mc=1 search] on CMU's website revealed [//www.cmu.edu/dietrich/sds/docs/davis/A%20Theory%20of%20the%20Budgetary%20Process.pdf this political science research paper] (which mentions it as being used on page 10 and clearly qualifies as no more than a brief mention) and the other article does not appear to actually mention the language, seems to have just turned up based on the heavy use of 'gate'. Article's one reference (HOPL entry in External Links) has been dead since 2012. I found a cached ver of the page at [//web.archive.org/web/20110927014116/http://hopl.murdoch.edu.au/showlanguage.prx?exp=216 web.archive.org] from 2011, but it does not seem to support the subject's notability and only lists 2 papers giving significant coverage of the language, both written by the creators and therefore not independent. Also notifying notability tagger from February 2015: &#8213;  Padenton &#124;&#9993;  16:11, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
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 * Merge to Bendix G-20/Weak keep Possibly not of sufficient historical interest to warrant a stand-alone article, but should at least be mentioned somewhere in the article on the system it was designed to run on. On the other hand, also seems to have a predecessor GATE that ran on the IBM 650 and Alan Perlis was involved in its design, so I'd lean towards a keep just out of caution. References:
 * Perlis, A. J., H. R. Van Zoeren, and A. Evans, Jr. September 1959. “Gate Algebraic Compiler with Segmenting and Library Features for a Disk 650."
 * "20-GATE: Algebraic Compiler for the Bendix G-20", Carnegie Tech Computation Center, September 1962.
 * Perlis, A. J., "A format language", CACM, 1964
 * Alan Perlis, "Two Thousand Words and Two Thousand Ideas - The 650 at Carnegie", IEEE Annals of the History of Computing 1986.
 * Janet W. Fierst & David M. Blocher. "ALGOL-20: a language manual", 1965
 * None of those papers have a very high number citations according to GS, but I think the numbers may be underestimated because of missing articles and OCR problems for its index in this era. —Ruud 12:27, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Merge to Bendix G-20 As per above. --Kevjonesin (talk) 11:06, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 11:59, 20 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge to Bendix G-20 per Ruud's reasoning and source finds. There are sources enough for verification of basic facts about the language and merging into Bendix G-20 seems of due weight. The title is a plausible search term, so a redirect is warranted as well. --Mark viking (talk) 02:56, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge (nom) to Bendix G-20 per above arguments. &#8213; Padenton &#124;&#9993;  21:26, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
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