Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2000 Marlborough helicopter crash


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  06:55, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

2000 Marlborough helicopter crash

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Tragic but WP:NOTNEWS applies. Helicopter crashes, rescue copters especially, do crash. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 22:45, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - there are sources in the article covering this event 10 and 20 years after it happened. I think that exceeds WP:NOTNEWS. And I don't get what you mean about the complaints department being on the roof - that's irrelevant to the article. Deus et lex (talk) 00:10, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - Helicopters crash all the time sadly some are fatal but are very rarely of note for an article or even a mention in wikipedia. Good guide is that it should have killed somebody notable (normal indicated that they have an article) to get a mention for these types of accident. Nothing in the article indicates it is anything but one of thousands of non-noteworthy fatal helicopter accidents. MilborneOne (talk) 08:15, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - this just reads like WP:IDONTLIKEIT. There's no requirement in Wikipedia that an accident be fatal in order to retain it. If there's a good policy reason to delete the article, then say so, but there's no reason to make things up to justify deletion. Deus et lex (talk) 14:03, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - you need to assume good faith here and accusing others of making stuff up is not really acceptable. But thanks you actually agree with me that being fatal is not a good reason to keep it. MilborneOne (talk) 16:46, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - What I'm saying is made up is your claim that if an accident is not fatal it gets deleted. There is no such Wikipedia policy. It's not bad faith to call that out. Deus et lex (talk) 12:27, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - Some citations mention the crash years after the incident. The crash is clearly notable although it needs more expansion. Nyanardsan (talk) 17:38, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Wikipedia is not the news. This event doesn’t rise to the level of significance required for an encyclopedia entry. Further the sustained coverage is entirely local.4meter4 (talk) 00:08, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - ABC News and The World Today are national broadcasts, they are not "local" news. And your claim that "the event doesn't rise to the significance of a Wikipedia policy" again doesn't accord with Wikipedia policy. Deus et lex (talk) 12:19, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  00:11, 12 June 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - I see several signs that would suggest that this event meets WP:EVENT criteria, including the diversity and persistence of the coverage as pointed out by other editors here. /Tpdwkouaa (talk) 05:09, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 17:03, 19 June 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.