Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2001 Summer Camp Music Festival


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The result was   no consensus. —  Aitias  // discussion 01:29, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

2001 Summer Camp Music Festival

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Co-nominating the following articles;


 * Delete nn listcruft Mayalld (talk) 16:28, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I'm simply separating the music festival pages by year. See the work I've done for Bonnaroo, Wakarusa, 10,000 Lakes Festival, Coachella, etc. If you've got a better way to do this, go ahead and edit it, but this information should not be removed. -- Chupon (talk) 16:31, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Thank you for the pointer to further listcruft for future AfD attention Mayalld (talk) 22:56, 22 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete as listcruft. All it does is list the different bands that played in the music festival. It's just a bunch of WP:TRIVA. Tavix (talk) 17:41, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not all that's in the article. Each year lists important information about the changes to the festival. It's cited, includes links to other article and reduces the size of the main article. Would you rather have all of this in one page, as it was before? If you're going to nominate this, then nominate all the other music festival pages that are broken down by year. I'm open to suggestions on a better way to do this, but simply deleting these pages is not the best route, in my opinion. -- Chupon (talk) 17:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Everything that is not the lineup only takes up like three lines per article. That part can be merged to the main article. The line-ups, however, are listcruft and should be deleted. Tavix (talk) 20:22, 22 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge the changes to the festival into the main article. Since Wikipedia is not a programme book, I recommend not merging the bands (instead mention a few of the representative ones or some special ones on the main page in context. Splitting is only really neccesary when there are space constraints. - Mgm|(talk) 18:57, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge per MGM. Usrnme h8er (talk) 22:51, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge back into Summer Camp Music Festival where it was before. (Or maybe merge into some "List of Summer Camp Music Festivals", but that seems silly.)  Individual years of Summer Camp don't appear to meet WP:Notability.  I don't see "important" information in these year articles,  but maybe encyclopedic information nonetheless, assuming Summer Camp itself meets WP:Notability.  I don't see a problem with the size &mdash; so far, the year articles are barely bigger than when they were in the main article; as User:Tavix noted, a few years have a couple new lines about changes, but some don't even have that.  If the band lists are left in, the prose so far will barely make a dent in size anyway; and, if the band lists end up being considered WP:Listcruft, then the main article will end up pretty small even when merged. --Closeapple (talk) 02:39, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete all: non-notable listcruft. JamesBurns (talk) 07:54, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * All right I've merged them back in. Do whatever you want with the yearly articles. -- Chupon (talk) 18:44, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.