Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2005 Ahwazi unrest


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep but possibly merge or rename. The subject seems to have received coverage from multiple reliable sources, several of the arguments to delete seem to object to the name. "Unrest" does not strike me as a particularly loaded term but there may be a more suitable term for these events and it may be appropriate to merge this content into another article. Those possibilities can and should be discussed on the article's talk page. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:00, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

2005 Ahwazi unrest

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Due to WP:EVENT, the event does not have Significant coverage , is advertising , sources only establishes a presumption and this subject can be covered in two sentence in other articles about unrest in Iran Alborz Fallah (talk) 16:42, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: The event was not such notable. The current article is trying to present the event much much more important and notable than what it really is. There is no need of having a separate article for this. It can be just mentioned in brief in other related articles. --Wayiran (talk) 21:39, 25 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete: Beside the reasons the two users correctly mentioned, the article strongly suffers from its references. Kurdistan democratic party and National Council of Resistance references (the latter is related to the Mujahedin which is considered a terroristic group by most countries) are obviously non-neutral.--Aliwiki (talk) 10:07, 26 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep: This article would not have been created if it failed NOTABILITY. According to WP:NOTABLE, "An event that is a precedent or catalyst for something else of lasting significance is likely to be notable". If we relate to 2005-2006 Ahvaz bombings and local unrest in Ahvaz during 2011 Iranian protests, one can notice certain long-range effect of the April 15 Intifada (or 2005 Ahwazi unrest, as related by media).Greyshark09 (talk) 20:29, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 20:09, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 20:10, 26 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep, social movements are extremely notable and must continue to be so in the light of the Arab Spring. Moemin05 (talk) 19:02, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete (1) Loaded title. (2) Does not meet the requirements of WP:EVENT. (3) Key points which are properly backed by a WP:RS, can be given a sentence or two in a related article, anything more would be a violation of WP:UNDUE given the small scale of the alleged events. Kurdo777 (talk) 02:35, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per Greyshark09 and Moemin05. Here is some more coverage by the BBC, Reuters, The Economist, Eurasianet,Reporters Without Borders and the LA Times. Unrests on such a large scale are always notable. Ankimai (talk) 08:20, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment First of all, none of those old news items speak of "Ahwaz unrest" or "Ahawzi intifada" or similar loaded terminologies that the creator of the page has been using, so there goes the title of the page out of the window. Secondly, a random news event in the past maybe notable for WikiNews, but not for Wikipedia as a separate topic, maybe a line or two in Politics of Khuzistan page, but certainly not a separate topic which warrants a new article. Six years later, there are hardly any academic sources that discuss this event in retrospective, that shows that it is not a notable event to have its own page on Wikipedia. Not every riot that happens in the world, has its own article on Wikipedia. At last, but not the least, this is third time in a few weeks that you have just happened to pop up on a page that I have just edited, all unrelated topics. This is getting a bit creepy and starting to look more and more like stalking. Kurdo777 (talk) 21:35, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Significant and long term coverage.-- Pink Bull  19:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge and Delete seems to be a part of the general trend in protests against the current Iranian regime. If we want to make a separate article for every single one of the protests - in every city, for every time that happens - we will have a long list of not very significant articles. My suggestion is to merge this information with a more general article on the topic of such protests against Iranian government and redirect this article to that section of that main article. Farmanesh (talk) 22:45, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete: Not notable. Should be moved under Human rights in Iran or completely deleted. Also poor sources (NCRI and KDP are biased political groups with set agendas). Nokhodi (talk) 23:10, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.