Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2007-08 Rogue Valley Wranglers hockey team


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The result was delete.  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  23:39, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

2007-08 Rogue Valley Wranglers hockey team

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Nominated for deletion as per consensuses on junior and low-level professional ice hockey seasons. Flibirigit (talk) 02:34, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hockey-related deletion discussions.   —Djsasso (talk) 17:45, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. A league where, apparently, some games can have attendance as low as 59 obviously does not deserve individual season articles for its teams. Skudrafan1 (talk) 14:27, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, and yeah 59 in attendance seems to indicate it is not significant enough to warrant individual season articles per team. -Djsasso (talk) 17:44, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - this article is just as pertinent as other lower level sports team seasons. This team comes from a lower population area in which the nearest metropolitan area in 300 miles away. There is no major sports in the Rogue Valley, just a small college and a Junior level hockey team. Deleting this article would be ignorant toward smaller markets and would attempt to show that Wikipedia is only interested in things that are important to major regions. Aplaceicallhome (talk) 22:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Other lower level sports teams shouldn't have seasons either, and usually don't. This isn't being ignorant toward smaller markets, its deciding whether or not something is notable rather than being locally notable. -Djsasso (talk) 22:49, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment The main article for the team is completely encyclopedic and should remain. An article specifically for one season in this team's history, though, is completely unnecessary.  If Wikipedia were "ignorant," we would be arguing to delete the team page and the league page.  But we aren't, because the league is, in whatever small way, notable.  This is just a case of too much information.  While people might be interested that a team called the Rogue Valley Wranglers exists, and can get that information on team's article, not very many will care to search Wikipedia to see what the final score of every one of its games in the 2007-08 season was. Skudrafan1 (talk) 03:09, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment By the way, not that it matters, but the team plays in Medford, Oregon... which, according to its Wiki page, is a metropolitan area of over 200,000 people. :) Skudrafan1 (talk) 03:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - Unfortunately, simply because Medford is considered a "metropolitan" area, does not mean that it is such an area. The Medford area is made up of far more rural cities and towns than actual metropolitan areas, such as Portland, Seattle, and San Francisco. The games in Medford average 200 individuals in attendance, making it far and above the most important sporting events in the region. The information provided by this article is just that information, which is what it means to be encyclopedic, something that I was told Wikipedia was. But then again I could be wrong, or maybe it is simply because a few are interested in a subject and many are not. Which does not make ground for deletion. The information in this article is just as important to some as a year by year synopsis of the New England Patriots is to so many. I would not have thought to create this page if I was not certain that there are those who are interested in the team and its information. Much of the information on this page is not available on the team's main page, such as personal stats, scores of past games, and recent team activity. Deleting this article would be a poor step for Wikipedia, which as I understand stands for the preservation of knowledge for the whole, and the users donate what knowledge they have to the community. I certainly didn't expect the community to tell me what information I had was important or not.Aplaceicallhome (talk) 08:02, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment A page you might want to read about wikipedia is what wikipedia is not. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminant collection of statistics. If we were to let in the statistics of every team that has ever played hockey then we would not be disciminating as is required. Also there is a site where this would be appropriate, its the Ice Hockey Wikia. -Djsasso (talk) 16:07, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I understand what you are trying to tell me, however the article that you sent me to does not address the article in question for deletion. This article is not an unwieldy collection of statistics, it is an article with a specific purpose. However I completely understand what is meant by the title "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information". I am just disappointed that this information is not "important" enough to be included on the Wikipedia main site, and now must be kept on a separate, more obscure site. Aplaceicallhome (talk) 20:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: Insufficient reliable secondary sources found to provide notability. --JD554 (talk) 08:25, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect to the main team article. Sorry, but this is not even AHL, much less NHL - it is just not notable. Bearian (talk) 19:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


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