Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2007 European Karate Championships


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. v/r - TP 02:32, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

2007 European Karate Championships

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fails WP:SPORTSEVENT. world championships are notable but this one is regional and gets only 1 gnews hit. LibStar (talk) 06:53, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 08:44, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 08:44, 27 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep unless someone can explain the nomination to me. WP:SPORTSEVENT tells us what is "inherently notable", it does not suggest articles on other sports events are not notable. Where does the relevance of "world championships" come in? Is this just the nominator's view? All the examples of inherently notable events in SPORTSEVENT are regional. If the article is not notable on its own it should be merged with European Karate Championships and not deleted. However such a merge would make the target article very lop-sided. Thincat (talk) 23:04, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * please provide sources to support notability of this event. LibStar (talk) 06:03, 28 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment According to WP:NSPORT the usual criteria for notability for athletes is participation at the highest level and most specify Olympics or world championships. That's why the focus is so often on "world championships."  Logically, if you can't become notable by winning a particular event, it's hard to claim that event is notable. Papaursa (talk) 18:43, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * That is far from a logical consequence. Phil Bridger (talk) 09:53, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. No evidence of significant coverage by reliable sources presented. Niteshift36 (talk) 00:07, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 4 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - zero independent sources to establish lasting notability. Run-of-the-mill sporting event.--70.80.234.163 (talk) 22:48, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep We are talking about a continental championship of a very prominent martial arts discipline. Please re-consider what you are about to do if you are tended to delete it. If you are still determined to do so, also nominate EUBC European Amateur Boxing Championships, why not? It is no longer a direct qualification phase for the Olympics, so it might not be notable, too? Umi1903 (talk) 09:11, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Google search reveals independent sources. Enough to establish notability. --Ryan.germany (talk) 10:46, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * please specify actual sources, most of these seem primary sources from karate websites, not third party like newspapers or trusted news websites. LibStar (talk) 12:37, 7 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 23:58, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - According to WP:SPORTSEVENT, the event is not inherently notable. It then falls to the WP:GNG to establish notability, requiring reliable third-party sources. I can find none of these, and none have been provided, suggesting a lack of notability. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 17:09, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, I did a more general search for "European Karate Championships" and came across many passing mentions. I'm going to say the  event itself should make it, but Merge and redirect 2007 into a larger timespan - perhaps a decade?   Th e S te ve   06:06, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep/Merge I agree. Merge with 2006, 2008, and 2009 European Karate Championships. Pages that summarize 5-10 years worth of results history seem optimal. Osubuckeyeguy (talk) 13:30, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete as failing WP:GNG. No WP:RS are presented, only what appears to be the official results. If some coverage can be found Merge and redirect Stuartyeates (talk) 07:52, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
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